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Your opinion on Falkland Islands?

The islands should remain under British control.
395
80%
The island should be handed over to the Argentinian government.
59
12%
They should be left uninhabited.
37
8%
 
Total votes : 491

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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:23 pm

Condunum wrote:
The divided wrote:results are in:

Yes 1513 99.7%
No 3 0.2%
Invalid: 1 0.1%

Pretty damning result for the Argentineans

That looks far too divided to make any decision on the issue.


If Putin could get 133% of the votes, why can't the Falklanders, huh?
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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:24 pm

Condunum wrote:
The divided wrote:results are in:

Yes 1513 99.7%
No 3 0.2%
Invalid: 1 0.1%

Pretty damning result for the Argentineans

That looks far too divided to make any decision on the issue.

Edit: also, contention to those numbers.
According to this, the vote as 98.8% yes of 1517 voters.


They 3 who voted NO, and the invalid vote...they are the new Troll Kings.
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Postby Condunum » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:25 pm

Liriena wrote:
Condunum wrote:That looks far too divided to make any decision on the issue.


If Putin could get 133% of the votes, why can't the Falklanders, huh?

Only 99.7% (or 98.8%, according to another source) is too low! WE NEED A UNANIMOUS OPINION.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:25 pm

Liriena wrote:
Condunum wrote:That looks far too divided to make any decision on the issue.

Edit: also, contention to those numbers.
According to this, the vote as 98.8% yes of 1517 voters.


They 3 who voted NO, and the invalid vote...they are the new Troll Kings.


Lets deport them to Argentina.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:28 pm

Democratic Koyro wrote:
Liriena wrote:
They 3 who voted NO, and the invalid vote...they are the new Troll Kings.


Lets deport them to Argentina.


Heck no! That's an excessive punishment!
Send them to Uruguay. They're better off with Pepe.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:29 pm

Uruguay is trying to get in on the action too...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ntina.html
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:30 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:Uruguay is trying to get in on the action too...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ntina.html


Sigh...
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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:31 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:Uruguay is trying to get in on the action too...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ntina.html


Uruguay is Argentina done right...and downscaled a few million square miles. :P
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Postby Schmiegelland » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:36 pm

He said that Argentina would be "very frightened" because "this process was democratic."



What's your reply to that, Argentina!

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Postby Schmiegelland » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:38 pm

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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:45 pm



It's Timmerman, a pro-Iran Jew. Top class nitwit.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:45 pm

Liriena wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:El hombre es loco!


It's Timmerman, a pro-Iran Jew. Top class nitwit.

wut
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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:45 pm

Schmiegelland wrote:
He said that Argentina would be "very frightened" because "this process was democratic."



What's your reply to that, Argentina!


Argentina replied already: They don't recognize the right of Falklanders to decide their own sovereignity.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:48 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Liriena wrote:
It's Timmerman, a pro-Iran Jew. Top class nitwit.

wut


I ain't lying. I haz sauces...all of them in Spanish...but sauces nonetheless.

He actually went as far saying this, when his Rabbi publicly reminded him of his family's debt of gratitude to Israel and the Jewish community during and after the Holocaust: "What does he want me to do? Write Israel a check for allegedly helping my father?"
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:59 pm

Liriena wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:wut


I ain't lying. I haz sauces...all of them in Spanish...but sauces nonetheless.

He actually went as far saying this, when his Rabbi publicly reminded him of his family's debt of gratitude to Israel and the Jewish community during and after the Holocaust: "What does he want me to do? Write Israel a check for allegedly helping my father?"

I know a little spanish. I'd like to see your sources.
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Postby Schmiegelland » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:26 pm

Where are these sauces?

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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:34 pm

Here you go, guys! Fresh from La Nación, Argentina's most right-wing (though surprisingly left-wing by American standards) newspaper!

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1555949-timerman-quiere-que-le-haga-un-cheque-a-israel-por-lo-que-supuestamente-hizo-por-mi-padre

This was all part of a massive political shit storm over a memorandum that called for cooperation between the Argentine and the Iranian government in the investigation of a terrorist attack which has been suspected to have involved the Iranians in some way (some believe the Iranians might have actually planned the attack).

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/juicio-amia-t22030

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_Bombing
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Postby Schmiegelland » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:37 pm

I found this sentence in your first source. (Google Translate)

I have to change the foreign policy and shit to Argentina in the AMIA


Was that correct?

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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:40 pm

Schmiegelland wrote:I found this sentence in your first source. (Google Translate)

I have to change the foreign policy and shit to Argentina in the AMIA


Was that correct?


He's rhetorically asking "Do I have to change the Argentine foreign policy and take a shit on the AMIA because I may have a debt to Israel? I don't have any debts."
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Postby Schmiegelland » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:41 pm

That makes more sense than shitting on a country.

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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:44 pm

Schmiegelland wrote:That makes more sense than shitting on a country.


Sure does. :p
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:13 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:Uruguay is trying to get in on the action too...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ntina.html


:rofl:

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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:23 am

The Falklanders are patriotic to the core, and 98.8% voted to remain British. This is fantastic, because we British are the greatest country in the world and if them Argies invade again, we'll show them who's boss once more. Image
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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:40 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:Uruguay is trying to get in on the action too...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ntina.html


Old news; I've been pointing this out for years, and repeated as much back on page 10 of the thread (though with a different justification):

viewtopic.php?p=13315753#p13315753


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