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Your opinion on Falkland Islands?

The islands should remain under British control.
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80%
The island should be handed over to the Argentinian government.
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12%
They should be left uninhabited.
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Total votes : 491

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The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League
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Postby The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:32 am

Arglorand wrote:
The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Then what makes them Argentinians land? And yes the Islands can speak, and they wanted to be under British rule and they haven't said anything because they like being under British control. Can't you get that into your head..... :palm:

Er, please read my posts. It IS in my head.

It was a joke. The Islanders can speak, not the Islands. Duh. :P


That was the dumbest joke ever.................................................... :palm:

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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:32 am

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:
Probably something about Vernet getting thrown off and Britain setting the flag up after abandoning the colony for a couple years.



So should Persia go conquer the middle east because they once owned them, and why the hell don't you people not get, the Islands WANT to be under British control.

Jesus, dude, chill out.
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Postby The American Nuclear Fallout Zone » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:32 am

The islanders should decide for themselves, BUT I support turning the Falklands over to Argentina.

*is biased against Britain on grounds of being Irish >_>*
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Postby The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:33 am

Arglorand wrote:
The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:

So should Persia go conquer the middle east because they once owned them, and why the hell don't you people not get, the Islands WANT to be under British control.

Jesus, dude, chill out.


Attack the arguments! And I assure you I am quite calm.

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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:33 am

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Er, please read my posts. It IS in my head.

It was a joke. The Islanders can speak, not the Islands. Duh. :P


That was the dumbest joke ever.................................................... :palm:

Or you're just too fucking uptight, man.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

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Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Machtergreifung » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:34 am

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:
Probably something about Vernet getting thrown off and Britain setting the flag up after abandoning the colony for a couple years.



So should Persia go conquer the middle east because they once owned them, and why the hell don't you people not get, the Islands WANT to be under British control.


Perisa owns the Middle East, then loses it. After a while, it is abandoned, so it moves back in. Then someone else throws them out and they move in.

That's a comparable situation, make your own judgement.

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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:34 am

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Jesus, dude, chill out.


Attack the arguments! And I assure you I am quite calm.

No, because nigh all of us AGREE with you.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Machtergreifung » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:35 am

Arglorand wrote:
The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Attack the arguments! And I assure you I am quite calm.

No, because nigh all of us AGREE with you.



Even those that seem to disagree secretly agree!

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Postby The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:35 am

The American Nuclear Fallout Zone wrote:The islanders should decide for themselves, BUT I support turning the Falklands over to Argentina.

*is biased against Britain on grounds of being Irish >_>*


Oh, god not this Irish pride.................................................................................................................................................you do realize that your nation hasn't done shit in the last 120 years expect have a potato famine and get drunk.

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Postby The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:36 am

Arglorand wrote:
The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Attack the arguments! And I assure you I am quite calm.

No, because nigh all of us AGREE with you.


Then you attack the argument if you don't agree, DUH?

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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:36 am

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
The American Nuclear Fallout Zone wrote:The islanders should decide for themselves, BUT I support turning the Falklands over to Argentina.

*is biased against Britain on grounds of being Irish >_>*


Oh, god not this Irish pride.................................................................................................................................................you do realize that your nation hasn't done shit in the last 120 years expect have a potato famine and get drunk.

Your country isn't even a country.

See, two can play this racist game.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Postby Machtergreifung » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:36 am

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
The American Nuclear Fallout Zone wrote:The islanders should decide for themselves, BUT I support turning the Falklands over to Argentina.

*is biased against Britain on grounds of being Irish >_>*


Oh, god not this Irish pride.................................................................................................................................................you do realize that your nation hasn't done shit in the last 120 years expect have a potato famine and get drunk.


Woah, you really are somebody worth debating with. What nation are you from, so we can mock the failings of your nation in turn?

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:37 am

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
The American Nuclear Fallout Zone wrote:The islanders should decide for themselves, BUT I support turning the Falklands over to Argentina.

*is biased against Britain on grounds of being Irish >_>*


Oh, god not this Irish pride.................................................................................................................................................you do realize that your nation hasn't done shit in the last 120 years expect have a potato famine and get drunk.

You're not helping. Knock it off. [/notamod]
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Postby Ecans » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:38 am

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Let me correct you: The current inhabitants of the Malvinas aren't the original citizens of the islands so the UN treaty of self determination doesn't apply in this case.


If they wanted to be Argentinean then they would have done so, they are HAPPY under British Rule, and if Argentina wants them. THEN COME AND GET THEM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, UK CRUSHED Argentina before and they will do it again if needed.

Hopefully their navy will be up to it, should it happen again. Like most nations, the Brits cut military funding when possible. Always in the vain hope that trouble will not raise it's ugly head...at least until they get re-elected.
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Postby Machtergreifung » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:40 am

Ecans wrote:
The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
If they wanted to be Argentinean then they would have done so, they are HAPPY under British Rule, and if Argentina wants them. THEN COME AND GET THEM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, UK CRUSHED Argentina before and they will do it again if needed.

Hopefully their navy will be up to it, should it happen again. Like most nations, the Brits cut military funding when possible. Always in the vain hope that trouble will not raise it's ugly head...at least until they get re-elected.


Unlikely to happen. Both sides are severely limited by economic constraints, though the UK does retain a advantage by still maintaining it's delusion of being a world naval power.

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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:40 am

Machtergreifung wrote:
The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Oh, god not this Irish pride.................................................................................................................................................you do realize that your nation hasn't done shit in the last 120 years expect have a potato famine and get drunk.


Woah, you really are somebody worth debating with. What nation are you from, so we can mock the failings of your nation in turn?

My money's on the great and independent nation of East Belfast.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Machtergreifung » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:41 am

Arglorand wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:
Woah, you really are somebody worth debating with. What nation are you from, so we can mock the failings of your nation in turn?

My money's on the great and independent nation of East Belfast.


Oh. Michael Collins was right about one thing...

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Postby Ecans » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:44 am

Machtergreifung wrote:
Ecans wrote:Hopefully their navy will be up to it, should it happen again. Like most nations, the Brits cut military funding when possible. Always in the vain hope that trouble will not raise it's ugly head...at least until they get re-elected.


Unlikely to happen. Both sides are severely limited by economic constraints, though the UK does retain a advantage by still maintaining it's delusion of being a world naval power.

True. And the Brits would need to fly the Harriers off frigates and container ships.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:50 am

Farnhamia wrote:or people from Buenos Aires calling themselves "Porteños."


Porteño de nacimiento, pero mi corazón está en Quilmes. :D

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Postby Calimera II » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:11 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:or people from Buenos Aires calling themselves "Porteños."


Porteño de nacimiento, pero mi corazón está en Quilmes. :D


Oooo, Quilmes.. Interesante. Mi familia es de Barrio Norte y la Plata. Pero mi abuelo es de Paraná originalmente.

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Postby Marcurix » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:09 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Arglorand wrote:So you just admitted the Falklands are British. Bravo.

Let me correct you: The current inhabitants of the Malvinas aren't the original citizens of the islands so the UN treaty of self determination doesn't apply in this case.


I guess the Argentinians don't get self determination either, given all the colonialism.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:36 pm

Ecans wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:
Unlikely to happen. Both sides are severely limited by economic constraints, though the UK does retain a advantage by still maintaining it's delusion of being a world naval power.

True. And the Brits would need to fly the Harriers off frigates and container ships.


No. 1 Carrier is in active service as a Helicopter Carrier, 2 are decomissioned but can be recomissioned in emergancy situations and HMS Ocean can be equipped with Aircraft if necessary.
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Postby Machtergreifung » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:42 pm

Democratic Koyro wrote:
Ecans wrote:True. And the Brits would need to fly the Harriers off frigates and container ships.


No. 1 Carrier is in active service as a Helicopter Carrier, 2 are decomissioned but can be recomissioned in emergancy situations and HMS Ocean can be equipped with Aircraft if necessary.


Helicopters that wouldn't do a great deal against any sort of mild air defense. HMS Ocean cannot operate aircraft, only ferry them.

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Postby New Sapienta » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:50 pm

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
The American Nuclear Fallout Zone wrote:The islanders should decide for themselves, BUT I support turning the Falklands over to Argentina.

*is biased against Britain on grounds of being Irish >_>*


Oh, god not this Irish pride.................................................................................................................................................you do realize that your nation hasn't done shit in the last 120 years expect have a potato famine and get drunk.

What country you from buddy? There's dirt on pretty much every country.

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Postby Condunum » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:51 pm

The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Er, please read my posts. It IS in my head.

It was a joke. The Islanders can speak, not the Islands. Duh. :P


That was the dumbest joke ever.................................................... :palm:

Actually, it was a pretty good joke.
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