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What type of Satanist are you

LaVeyan
16
8%
Church of Satan
2
1%
Temple of Set
7
3%
Theistic
12
6%
Other
36
18%
CRIST COMPELS YOU
128
64%
 
Total votes : 201

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The God-Realm
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Postby The God-Realm » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:53 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Theistic Satanism is.


So what's your opinion on the future of LaVeyan Satanism?

We won't exist because there will be no Christians.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

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Postby Menassa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:53 pm

Genovany wrote:
Menassa wrote:What is the point of Christ without Satan?


Probabluh.


The Christ I speak of is not Jesus. I have no name for him, for he can't be known. However I call him Great Christ because it is a powerful name

*sigh*
Do you know what Christ means?
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
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Sulamalik
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Postby Sulamalik » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:55 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Sulamalik wrote:
So what's your opinion on the future of LaVeyan Satanism?

We won't exist because there will be no Christians.


LeVeyan Satanism can only exist in the opposition of a specific religion?

Why don't you just, I dunno, cut out the middle man and be an objectivist?
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Postby Genovany » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:55 pm

Menassa wrote:
Genovany wrote:
The Christ I speak of is not Jesus. I have no name for him, for he can't be known. However I call him Great Christ because it is a powerful name

*sigh*
Do you know what Christ means?


I want to say yes... But the way you said that make me think otherwise, either way my religion is still developing, so I guess I should change the name...
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Postby Menassa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:56 pm

Genovany wrote:
Menassa wrote:*sigh*
Do you know what Christ means?


I want to say yes... But the way you said that make me think otherwise, either way my religion is still developing, so I guess I should change the name...

Yeah, seeing how Christ means: The Anointed one.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Sulamalik
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Postby Sulamalik » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:56 pm

Genovany wrote:
Menassa wrote:*sigh*
Do you know what Christ means?


I want to say yes... But the way you said that make me think otherwise, either way my religion is still developing, so I guess I should change the name...


Call him Supreme Allah.
Freiheit Reich wrote:"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."
Is that a nicer and more modern term to use?

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Postby The God-Realm » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:57 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:We won't exist because there will be no Christians.

objectivist?

No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Postby Menassa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:57 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
Genovany wrote:
I want to say yes... But the way you said that make me think otherwise, either way my religion is still developing, so I guess I should change the name...


Call him Supreme Allah.

Kel-Elyon?
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Genovany » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:57 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
Genovany wrote:
I want to say yes... But the way you said that make me think otherwise, either way my religion is still developing, so I guess I should change the name...


Call him Supreme Allah.



:bow:
"We the People"
"With unity and peace the world is ours"
"Only the Madhero will preserve us"

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Sulamalik
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Postby Sulamalik » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:01 pm

Genovany wrote:
Sulamalik wrote:
Call him Supreme Allah.



:bow:


Bism'allah, welcome my brother.

You are now a member of the Nation of Gods and Earth.

You'll get your free Wu-Tang Clan hoodie and Universal Flag in the mail. Allow delivery within 5-6 work days.
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Freiheit Reich wrote:"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."
Is that a nicer and more modern term to use?

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Postby Elipida » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:05 pm

Satan, the sinner no one prays for. Since I'm to lazy to read Wikipedia right now, what exactly do you believe in (under the assumption you actually know)?
Just a heads up; the demonym is "Elipian", not "Elipidian"
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Postby Menassa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:06 pm

Elipida wrote:Satan, the sinner no one prays for. Since I'm to lazy to read Wikipedia right now, what exactly do you believe in (under the assumption you actually know)?

Angels can't sin, they don't have free-will.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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The God-Realm
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Postby The God-Realm » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:06 pm

Elipida wrote:Satan, the sinner no one prays for. Since I'm to lazy to read Wikipedia right now, what exactly do you believe in (under the assumption you actually know)?

Satan is not real and we are edgy athiests with a code of conduct and magic.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Orcoa
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Postby Orcoa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:16 pm

Menassa wrote:
Elipida wrote:Satan, the sinner no one prays for. Since I'm to lazy to read Wikipedia right now, what exactly do you believe in (under the assumption you actually know)?

Angels can't sin, they don't have free-will.

That's a scary thought and one that should be explored in Fiction.

What happens when a Angel, a being that is powerful and inhuman, gains Free-will?
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Postby Menassa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:20 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Menassa wrote:Angels can't sin, they don't have free-will.

That's a scary thought and one that should be explored in Fiction.

What happens when a Angel, a being that is powerful and inhuman, gains Free-will?

Sounds impossible,

But not too impossible, I think it'll work.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Orcoa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:22 pm

Menassa wrote:
Orcoa wrote:That's a scary thought and one that should be explored in Fiction.

What happens when a Angel, a being that is powerful and inhuman, gains Free-will?

Sounds impossible,

But not too impossible, I think it'll work.

In fact, I think Paradise Falls does it well really but I want to explore it in a more modern context.

Much more about the Quest of one or two Angels, one turning to evil while the other finding path of Good and each causes changes through creation that leads to a great crisis
Long Live The Wolf Emperor!
This is the song I sing to those who screw with me XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnFhnpEgKY
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Postby Menassa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:24 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Menassa wrote:Sounds impossible,

But not too impossible, I think it'll work.

In fact, I think Paradise Falls does it well really but I want to explore it in a more modern context.

Much more about the Quest of one or two Angels, one turning to evil while the other finding path of Good and each causes changes through creation that leads to a great crisis

Eh,

They say: Angels Tremble before man.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Orcoa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:25 pm

Menassa wrote:
Orcoa wrote:In fact, I think Paradise Falls does it well really but I want to explore it in a more modern context.

Much more about the Quest of one or two Angels, one turning to evil while the other finding path of Good and each causes changes through creation that leads to a great crisis

Eh,

They say: Angels Tremble before man.

But that is only when Angels are under God's control...when they are not

Pray they never do. :p
Long Live The Wolf Emperor!
This is the song I sing to those who screw with me XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnFhnpEgKY
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Postby Menassa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:27 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Menassa wrote:Eh,

They say: Angels Tremble before man.

But that is only when Angels are under God's control...when they are not

Pray they never do. :p

Never really thought about an angel with free-will.
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Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Contextico
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Postby Contextico » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:28 pm

Actually Yazidism has an angel gaining free-will as one of its main beliefs. The glance I've given it makes it seem like it's an Arabic and optimistic form of Gnosticism. Weird stuff.

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Postby Orcoa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:32 pm

Menassa wrote:
Orcoa wrote:But that is only when Angels are under God's control...when they are not

Pray they never do. :p

Never really thought about an angel with free-will.

I had this idea for a story for a long time, one that would take Paradise lost but put it in a way where it was about not just the fall of a Angel from his Free-Will but the Rising of another because of his Free-will.

One falls and becomes a Jailer of the Wicked and a sort of Enemy of God in the way that he is a Agent of Chaos, while the other becomes the mightiest of Angels and becomes Humanity's Guardian. :p
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Postby Menassa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:33 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Menassa wrote:Never really thought about an angel with free-will.

I had this idea for a story for a long time, one that would take Paradise lost but put it in a way where it was about not just the fall of a Angel from his Free-Will but the Rising of another because of his Free-will.

One falls and becomes a Jailer of the Wicked and a sort of Enemy of God in the way that he is a Agent of Chaos, while the other becomes the mightiest of Angels and becomes Humanity's Guardian. :p

Thus with the philosophy that humanity is far from God....
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Orcoa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:34 pm

Menassa wrote:
Orcoa wrote:I had this idea for a story for a long time, one that would take Paradise lost but put it in a way where it was about not just the fall of a Angel from his Free-Will but the Rising of another because of his Free-will.

One falls and becomes a Jailer of the Wicked and a sort of Enemy of God in the way that he is a Agent of Chaos, while the other becomes the mightiest of Angels and becomes Humanity's Guardian. :p

Thus with the philosophy that humanity is far from God....

I don't know what you mean :lol:
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This is the song I sing to those who screw with me XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnFhnpEgKY
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Postby Menassa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:35 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Menassa wrote:Thus with the philosophy that humanity is far from God....

I don't know what you mean :lol:

Humanity needs a guardian... because it is far from God, and infected with sin.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Orcoa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:40 pm

Menassa wrote:
Orcoa wrote:I don't know what you mean :lol:

Humanity needs a guardian... because it is far from God, and infected with sin.


In a way it's more about a quest about someone who is giving the Power to change his/her world for either the better or worse.

Plus it's a fantasy story and I love a good fantasy story. :)
Long Live The Wolf Emperor!
This is the song I sing to those who screw with me XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnFhnpEgKY
"this is the Internet: The place where religion goes to die." Crystalcliff Point

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