Best Western Government?

[Robarya]

While I dislike all of the above, I have to say the US and France because they are Republican.

[Buffett and Colbert]

For me it was between Germany and Switzerland, but Switzerland prevailed. I think this is due to the fact that they are always trying to do their best to settle international disputes in a nonpartisan way.

Am I the only person who really doesnt like Switzerland?

How can't you? Their chocolate, watches, cheese and army knives are kick ass!

[The Norse Hordes]

For me it was between Germany and Switzerland, but Switzerland prevailed. I think this is due to the fact that they are always trying to do their best to settle international disputes in a nonpartisan way.

Am I the only person who really doesnt like Switzerland?

How can't you? Their chocolate, watches, cheese and army knives are kick ass!

I was more refering to their government then their people or exports. People are the same verywhere and thus I dont hate whole groups. And their exports are good.

[Yootopia]

For me it was between Germany and Switzerland, but Switzerland prevailed. I think this is due to the fact that they are always trying to do their best to settle international disputes in a nonpartisan way.

Am I the only person who really doesnt like Switzerland?

How can't you? Their chocolate, watches, cheese and army knives are kick ass!

The SVP, who over 30% of their backwards-arsed population voted for are absolutely not kick-ass though, and nor is the fact that women only got the vote in some cantons in the 1990s. They're utter plebs, man.

[Buffett and Colbert]

While I dislike all of the above, I have to say the US and France because they are Republican.

In what way? Because many of those nations are republics or constitutional monarchies. And besides, Sarkozy isn't a member of the French Republican (right wing) party anyway...

[The Norse Hordes]

For me it was between Germany and Switzerland, but Switzerland prevailed. I think this is due to the fact that they are always trying to do their best to settle international disputes in a nonpartisan way.

Am I the only person who really doesnt like Switzerland?

How can't you? Their chocolate, watches, cheese and army knives are kick ass!

The SVP, who over 30% of their backwards-arsed population voted for are absolutely not kick-ass though, and nor is the fact that women only got the vote in some cantons in the 1990s. They're utter plebs, man.

This, minus the "plebs" comment.

[Buffett and Colbert]

For me it was between Germany and Switzerland, but Switzerland prevailed. I think this is due to the fact that they are always trying to do their best to settle international disputes in a nonpartisan way.

Am I the only person who really doesnt like Switzerland?

How can't you? Their chocolate, watches, cheese and army knives are kick ass!

I was more refering to their government then their people or exports. People are the same verywhere and thus I dont hate whole groups. And their exports are good.

You try and make a joke...

[TerraPublica]

Switzerland and Sweden by a mile.
Edit: How is the US first? We're in between the mostly free britain and the extremely corrupt Italy.

On a scale of 1 to 10 of western freedom, US is probably a 5.5.

[The Norse Hordes]

mostly free britain

What? The UK government has virtually no checks and balances and is extremelly corrupt and steadily heading towards a police state. What exactly are you on?

[Yootopia]

Switzerland and Sweden by a mile.
Edit: How is the US first? We're in between the mostly free britain and the extremely corrupt Italy.

On a scale of 1 to 10 of western freedom, US is probably a 5.5.

Why does Switzerland get so much love?

[The Norse Hordes]

Switzerland and Sweden by a mile.
Edit: How is the US first? We're in between the mostly free britain and the extremely corrupt Italy.

On a scale of 1 to 10 of western freedom, US is probably a 5.5.

Why does Switzerland get so much love?

How is the UK 'mostly free'?

[Yootopia]

mostly free britain

What? The UK government has virtually no checks and balances and is extremelly corrupt and steadily heading towards a police state. What exactly are you on?

Erm... we have 2 unelected checks on the elected government, I don't see all that much corruption kicking about and am not even remotely terrified of the polis tbqh.

[The Norse Hordes]

mostly free britain

What? The UK government has virtually no checks and balances and is extremelly corrupt and steadily heading towards a police state. What exactly are you on?

Erm... we have 2 unelected checks on the elected government, I don't see all that much corruption kicking about and am not even remotely terrified of the polis tbqh.

And these two unelected checks are....?

If one of them is the Queen Im going to laugh at you.


EDIT: Besides, unelected checks dont make for much of a check.

[Yootopia]

Switzerland and Sweden by a mile.
Edit: How is the US first? We're in between the mostly free britain and the extremely corrupt Italy.

On a scale of 1 to 10 of western freedom, US is probably a 5.5.

Why does Switzerland get so much love?

How is the UK 'mostly free'?

Not that this was my shout, but eh we can say what we like and do what we like sans interference from the government. Just because we can't kick about with guns or whatever doesn't mean we're unfree.

[The Norse Hordes]

Switzerland and Sweden by a mile.
Edit: How is the US first? We're in between the mostly free britain and the extremely corrupt Italy.

On a scale of 1 to 10 of western freedom, US is probably a 5.5.

Why does Switzerland get so much love?

How is the UK 'mostly free'?

Not that this was my shout, but eh we can say what we like and do what we like sans interference from the government.

Except the government has the power to pretty much observe whatever youre doing whenever it wants.

Just because we can't kick about with guns or whatever doesn't mean we're unfree.

Good strawman. I dont think I brought up guns. Nice try attempting to pick a fight though, but youre wasting your time with me. Im not an NRA member.

But hey if you prefer the broad brush approach.

[Buffett and Colbert]

mostly free britain

What? The UK government has virtually no checks and balances and is extremelly corrupt and steadily heading towards a police state. What exactly are you on?

Erm... we have 2 unelected checks on the elected government, I don't see all that much corruption kicking about and am not even remotely terrified of the polis tbqh.

And these two unelected checks are....?

If one of them is the Queen Im going to laugh at you.


EDIT: Besides, unelected checks dont make for much of a check.

I think he's referring to Gordon Brown and Tony Blaire and the fact that in the UK, you vote by party, and the actual person is not elected by the British people...

Right?

[Mad hatters in jeans]

UK man, we're free mostly on weekends 9-5 everyday.

[The Norse Hordes]

mostly free britain

What? The UK government has virtually no checks and balances and is extremelly corrupt and steadily heading towards a police state. What exactly are you on?

Erm... we have 2 unelected checks on the elected government, I don't see all that much corruption kicking about and am not even remotely terrified of the polis tbqh.

And these two unelected checks are....?

If one of them is the Queen Im going to laugh at you.


EDIT: Besides, unelected checks dont make for much of a check.

I think he's referring to Gordon Brown and Tony Blaire and the fact that in the UK, you vote by party, and the actual person is not elected by the British people...

Right?

And this would be a check how?

[Yootopia]

mostly free britain

What? The UK government has virtually no checks and balances and is extremelly corrupt and steadily heading towards a police state. What exactly are you on?

Erm... we have 2 unelected checks on the elected government, I don't see all that much corruption kicking about and am not even remotely terrified of the polis tbqh.

And these two unelected checks are....?

The Lords and the Monarchy, and that's without going into the EU's Courts which could be used to lodge a claim against anything the government here does.

If one of them is the Queen Im going to laugh at you.

I don't really see why, if things were going extremely wrong, she steps in and dissolves parliament. Would probably be the last action of the monarchy in this state, but it'd be a pretty solid swansong.

EDIT: Besides, unelected checks dont make for much of a check.

They do if it turns out you voted in parties to both chambers and your head of government which turned out to be extremely dodgy, at which point you have zero checks.

[Yootopia]

Except the government has the power to pretty much observe whatever youre doing whenever it wants.

"Oh no". I don't see how this is a particularly massive intrusion on my rights.

[Yootopia]

I think he's referring to Gordon Brown and Tony Blaire and the fact that in the UK, you vote by party, and the actual person is not elected by the British people...

Incorrect.

[Omnicracy]

U.S.

If we would've done it right it would be dam near perfect!

[The Norse Hordes]

The Lords and the Monarchy, and that's without going into the EU's Courts which could be used to lodge a claim against anything the government here does.

Yeah, the Lords and the Monarchy. Those are two entities with the power to fight a corrupt state. Its not like theyre basically symbolic roles anymore or anything.

In the UK you have no means of fighting poor, corrupt, or obtrusive laws outside of passing a new one. No judicial review. The PM is held in check by parliment, but parliment is not really held in check by the PM.

Im not saying the UK is some police state, but pretending like its so much freer then the US is fucking hilarious. Thats what prompted my original comment. Im also fighting off a viscious hangover and dont really have the will to do a battle of "what ifs" and government philosophy.

Wanna just go back to maing fun of the Swiss?

[Mad hatters in jeans]

U.S.

If we would've done it right it would be dam near perfect!

not really. it's pretty poor government structure actually.

[The Norse Hordes]

U.S.

If we would've done it right it would be dam near perfect!

not really. it's pretty poor government structure actually.

Care to defend this statement?