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Do you believe Afro americans deserve reparations

Yes they have been wronged over the years and they deserve more than an apology
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No cause it will serve no purpose or do no right
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Postby Drachmar » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:30 am

The Issue

After a recent high-profile case of a minority student being refused admission to a traditional, prestigious college, civil rights activists, conservatives, and teachers are up in arms about affirmative action and ethnic equality in education.


Speaking of AA, my latest issue. Weird, eh? :blink:
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:35 am

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No, reparations will only cause more racial tension amongst blacks and whites. IMHO it's time to move on and put this horrid period of U.S. history behind us.

Agreed, this country wont get past racism until no race feels like its "owed" anything, from White Supremacist to N'COBRA, those attitudes have to die...

And I think they will, as my father and his father's generations die off, I dont think people my age worry about it too much on either side (20,btw)...

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Postby F1-Insanity » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:12 am

Speaking of reparations. The democratic party owes a lot of people reparations.
-it supported slavery and started a war over it
-it condoned the KKK because the KKK was helping democratic candidates
-it came up with 'Jim Crow'
-it voted disproportionally against the civil rights bills, compared to other parties
-since it has had control of Congress in 48 of the last 64 years it can be held mainly responsible for the national debt and deficit, most of which was incurred after WW II.

The DNC owes us all.

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Postby Mushet » Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:43 pm

I'm Native American, I deserve reparations alot more than you all our land has been taken, there's barely any of us left and most of the ones that are left are living in substandard conditions in reservations where alcoholism and unemployment is rampant because all the government gave us was beer when they were rationing stuff, we are the smallest and poorest racial group in the United States we were so bad off that escaped slaves helped us out, our culture is virtually gone, the only ones to keep it alive were pot smoking hippies who misrepresented us as pacifists who were high all the time, atleast there are alot of black people left, they have a voice they got this disneyfilm banned because there were happy black slaves in it, we didn't get every western film banned, you guys have Africa, South LA, and a whole bunch of other places to call your own, where's our homeland, don't get me wrong I have nothing against black people, but you arent the only ones that got it bad there are mexicans and asians that are dirt poor, you're not the most oppressed race in America, defidently the second most oppressed and stop acting like you're the only minority
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Postby Mykola » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:25 pm

Jello Biafra wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Hell no.

Is any black person alive today a former slave? Or even a direct descendant from a slave? No. There is no reason to shell out money to people for something that happened 150ish years ago.

Racism isn't something that happened 150ish years ago. Well, actually it is, and happened before then and is happening now, as one of the legacies of slavery.

Niggers..........

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What you are saying here I consider some of the worst bitching I have seen in a long time. Black's need to just shut the fuck up. They are not oppressed, Al Sharpton is an idiot, Rodney King was a scandal and slavery in no way has affected you. You just need to STFU, but of course you have a right to blabber jibberish.
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Postby Mykola » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:27 pm

Mushet wrote:I'm Native American, I deserve reparations alot more than you all our land has been taken, there's barely any of us left and most of the ones that are left are living in substandard conditions in reservations where alcoholism and unemployment is rampant because all the government gave us was beer when they were rationing stuff, we are the smallest and poorest racial group in the United States we were so bad off that escaped slaves helped us out, our culture is virtually gone, the only ones to keep it alive were pot smoking hippies who misrepresented us as pacifists who were high all the time, atleast there are alot of black people left, they have a voice they got this disneyfilm banned because there were happy black slaves in it, we didn't get every western film banned, you guys have Africa, South LA, and a whole bunch of other places to call your own, where's our homeland, don't get me wrong I have nothing against black people, but you arent the only ones that got it bad there are mexicans and asians that are dirt poor, you're not the most oppressed race in America, defidently the second most oppressed and stop acting like you're the only minority


Now you guys are the one's who can actually say they deserve reparations, like because of the reservations. Do you still pay taxes? I know the casinos don't and tons of American Indians sell tobacco tax free, maybe you should round up 20 guys from the reservation and come to Cleveland and open up a tobacco shop, tax free, hell I'd go there.
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Postby Milks Empire » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:30 pm

Mykola wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Hell no.

Is any black person alive today a former slave? Or even a direct descendant from a slave? No. There is no reason to shell out money to people for something that happened 150ish years ago.

Racism isn't something that happened 150ish years ago. Well, actually it is, and happened before then and is happening now, as one of the legacies of slavery.

Niggers..........

There I said it, listen to this:

I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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What you are saying here I consider some of the worst bitching I have seen in a long time. Black's need to just shut the fuck up. They are not oppressed, Al Sharpton is an idiot, Rodney King was a scandal and slavery in no way has affected you. You just need to STFU, but of course you have a right to blabber jibberish.

Cut out the flamebaiting.

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:32 pm

I think reparations can be done.

However not right now, While Obama is in office it will cause too much resistance and let the right suggest he is playing ethnic favorites.



Here is how I would do reparations.
Take the 40 acres and a mule that was promised to each African American family calculate the average value back then. Find the number of freed families in the South and multiply the value from 40 acres and a mule times the number of families then.

Then adjust this number for inflation.

Now what we do is allow African American communities to elect community councils and pay them this reparations money which they can do what they want with.
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Postby Brajh » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:37 pm

greed and death wrote:I think reparations can be done.

However not right now, While Obama is in office it will cause too much resistance and let the right suggest he is playing ethnic favorites.



Here is how I would do reparations.
Take the 40 acres and a mule that was promised to each African American family calculate the average value back then. Find the number of freed families in the South and multiply the value from 40 acres and a mule times the number of families then.

Then adjust this number for inflation.

Now what we do is allow African American communities to elect community councils and pay them this reparations money which they can do what they want with.


I have a better idea. We don't give reparations to anybody.
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Postby Mykola » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:42 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Mykola wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Hell no.

Is any black person alive today a former slave? Or even a direct descendant from a slave? No. There is no reason to shell out money to people for something that happened 150ish years ago.

Racism isn't something that happened 150ish years ago. Well, actually it is, and happened before then and is happening now, as one of the legacies of slavery.

Niggers..........

There I said it, listen to this:

I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
-Stephen G Tallentyre


What you are saying here I consider some of the worst bitching I have seen in a long time. Black's need to just shut the fuck up. They are not oppressed, Al Sharpton is an idiot, Rodney King was a scandal and slavery in no way has affected you. You just need to STFU, but of course you have a right to blabber jibberish.

Cut out the flamebaiting.

Just speaking my mind, that's all.
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Postby Milks Empire » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:47 pm

Mykola wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:
Mykola wrote:Niggers...

Cut out the flamebaiting.

Just speaking my mind, that's all.

It is still in violation of the rules, is still therefore unacceptable, and is in VERY poor taste outside the rules.

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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:48 pm

greed and death wrote:I think reparations can be done.

However not right now, While Obama is in office it will cause too much resistance and let the right suggest he is playing ethnic favorites.



Here is how I would do reparations.
Take the 40 acres and a mule that was promised to each African American family calculate the average value back then. Find the number of freed families in the South and multiply the value from 40 acres and a mule times the number of families then.

Then adjust this number for inflation.

Now what we do is allow African American communities to elect community councils and pay them this reparations money which they can do what they want with.

What if the freed family is no longer considered "african american"? :eyebrow:

Or, the "African American" has some family that owned slaves as well?

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Postby The Aryan Third Reich » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:48 pm

Rearations? You want reparations for being mistreated? Go back to Africa if you don't like how you're treated. Stay with your own race and stop mixing with ours. Today is History. The years before are gone.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:49 pm

Mykola wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:
Mykola wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Hell no.

Is any black person alive today a former slave? Or even a direct descendant from a slave? No. There is no reason to shell out money to people for something that happened 150ish years ago.

Racism isn't something that happened 150ish years ago. Well, actually it is, and happened before then and is happening now, as one of the legacies of slavery.

Niggers..........

There I said it, listen to this:

I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
-Stephen G Tallentyre


What you are saying here I consider some of the worst bitching I have seen in a long time. Black's need to just shut the fuck up. They are not oppressed, Al Sharpton is an idiot, Rodney King was a scandal and slavery in no way has affected you. You just need to STFU, but of course you have a right to blabber jibberish.

Cut out the flamebaiting.

Just speaking my mind, that's all.

in a way that is against the rules, not to mention, racism doesnt help your position in the slightest...

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:51 pm

Maurepas wrote:
greed and death wrote:I think reparations can be done.

However not right now, While Obama is in office it will cause too much resistance and let the right suggest he is playing ethnic favorites.



Here is how I would do reparations.
Take the 40 acres and a mule that was promised to each African American family calculate the average value back then. Find the number of freed families in the South and multiply the value from 40 acres and a mule times the number of families then.

Then adjust this number for inflation.

Now what we do is allow African American communities to elect community councils and pay them this reparations money which they can do what they want with.

What if the freed family is no longer considered "african american"? :eyebrow:

Or, the "African American" has some family that owned slaves as well?

That's why it goes to communities not individuals.
The US government should not be in the business of saying who is african american and who is not.
Leave it to the council to decide, using census data to determine who gets about how much.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:52 pm

greed and death wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
greed and death wrote:I think reparations can be done.

However not right now, While Obama is in office it will cause too much resistance and let the right suggest he is playing ethnic favorites.



Here is how I would do reparations.
Take the 40 acres and a mule that was promised to each African American family calculate the average value back then. Find the number of freed families in the South and multiply the value from 40 acres and a mule times the number of families then.

Then adjust this number for inflation.

Now what we do is allow African American communities to elect community councils and pay them this reparations money which they can do what they want with.

What if the freed family is no longer considered "african american"? :eyebrow:

Or, the "African American" has some family that owned slaves as well?

That's why it goes to communities not individuals.
The US government should not be in the business of saying who is african american and who is not.
Leave it to the council to decide, using census data to determine who gets about how much.

Who gets to be put on the council? And what are their guidelines, and who has oversight over them?

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Postby Zeppy » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:58 pm

Paying for reparations would also ruin our economy by creating more inflationary money.

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Postby Allanea » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:02 pm

So let's see.

If I got an American citizenship tomorrow, you'd want me to pay your reparations? Even though I never oppressed a black person in my life? Just because I happen to be white?

That's racism, my friend.
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Postby The Norse Hordes » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:03 pm

Theyre coming in the form of healthcare reform if Glenn Beck and his cohorts of capitalist militia loons are to be believed.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:03 pm

Allanea wrote:So let's see.

If I got an American citizenship tomorrow, you'd want me to pay your reparations? Even though I never oppressed a black person in my life? Just because I happen to be white?

That's racism, my friend.

For some people that isnt a problem, ;)

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Postby The Norse Hordes » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:04 pm

Allanea wrote:So let's see.

If I got an American citizenship tomorrow, you'd want me to pay your reparations? Even though I never oppressed a black person in my life? Just because I happen to be white?

That's racism, my friend.




I dont think you understand how reparations would work.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:04 pm

Maurepas wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
greed and death wrote:I think reparations can be done.

However not right now, While Obama is in office it will cause too much resistance and let the right suggest he is playing ethnic favorites.



Here is how I would do reparations.
Take the 40 acres and a mule that was promised to each African American family calculate the average value back then. Find the number of freed families in the South and multiply the value from 40 acres and a mule times the number of families then.

Then adjust this number for inflation.

Now what we do is allow African American communities to elect community councils and pay them this reparations money which they can do what they want with.

What if the freed family is no longer considered "african american"? :eyebrow:

Or, the "African American" has some family that owned slaves as well?

That's why it goes to communities not individuals.
The US government should not be in the business of saying who is african american and who is not.
Leave it to the council to decide, using census data to determine who gets about how much.

Who gets to be put on the council? And what are their guidelines, and who has oversight over them?


If you self identify as African American you can vote for the council. The council is elected.
They have no oversight except from the people who elects them, the point of reparations is its there money they can do whatever they want with it even if white America disapproves.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:06 pm

greed and death wrote:
If you self identify as African American you can vote for the council. The council is elected.
They have no oversight except from the people who elects them, the point of reparations is its there money they can do whatever they want with it even if white America disapproves.

Somehow the thought of white Americans self identifying as African Americans based on their family history would turn N'COBRA off I believe, :lol2:
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Postby Zeppy » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:07 pm

The Norse Hordes wrote:Theyre coming in the form of healthcare reform if Glenn Beck and his cohorts of capitalist militia loons are to be believed.


Saving their lives are reparations.

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Postby Zeppy » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:08 pm

greed and death wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
greed and death wrote:I think reparations can be done.

However not right now, While Obama is in office it will cause too much resistance and let the right suggest he is playing ethnic favorites.



Here is how I would do reparations.
Take the 40 acres and a mule that was promised to each African American family calculate the average value back then. Find the number of freed families in the South and multiply the value from 40 acres and a mule times the number of families then.

Then adjust this number for inflation.

Now what we do is allow African American communities to elect community councils and pay them this reparations money which they can do what they want with.

What if the freed family is no longer considered "african american"? :eyebrow:

Or, the "African American" has some family that owned slaves as well?

That's why it goes to communities not individuals.
The US government should not be in the business of saying who is african american and who is not.
Leave it to the council to decide, using census data to determine who gets about how much.

Who gets to be put on the council? And what are their guidelines, and who has oversight over them?


If you self identify as African American you can vote for the council. The council is elected.
They have no oversight except from the people who elects them, the point of reparations is its there money they can do whatever they want with it even if white America disapproves.


I am approximately 1/8 black but I look Spanish. Do I get to vote?

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