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Postby Beloyukto » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:36 am

Hello everyone! How are you doing today? :)
I just have a few questions for Christians that I wish someone could answer them. I am not Christian but I have pretty good knowledge of Christianity and the Bible. Okay here we go:

1. Is Jesus god or the son of God?
If you say he is the son of god, then he is not god?

2. Is the holy Spirit god?

3. Okay, so who is the father? Is he God?

4. Just tell me plain: Who is god?

5. How is God one and the same time three? (1=3)?

6. The trinity... Do they equal one? Or does one equal three?

7. Jesus died on the cross... So now he is dead? Okay part of god is dead? For those who say Jesus is god... A punch of Jews killed God? So a punch of Jews are stronger than God? Or maybe stronger that a part of God?

8. Christians say Jesus died for my (and your) sins. Did he die for the sins of the Jews who killed him? Are they going to heaven?

9. So everyone is going to heaven? (Remember, Jesus died for our sins). Who about those who deny that there is god?

10. Jesus says in the bible: "Do not call me good no body is good except god".
Jesus clearly states that he isn't god. But [maybe] you just said he was god. Please explain I'm confused now.

11. Jesus says in the bible: "Hear O Israel the lord our god is one lord". So there is only one god? And by 'our', Jesus is referring to himself and Israel, so god is also the god of Jesus? So God is actually A god of a god?

12. This is a question about your opinion: What do you think of other Abrahamic religions? Please explain don't just say eg. "Jews are bad".
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Postby Tsuntion » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:42 am

You could just say "Please explain how you see the Trinity" and "I do not understand the Resurrection". Go read Wikipedia or something.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:40 am

Why am I suddenly in mind to quote Emperor Anastasius' famous reply to Pope Hormisdas?


Beloyukto wrote:I am not Christian but I have pretty good knowledge of Christianity and the Bible.


If this is true, then you presumably don't need us to answer your questions, do you?
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Postby TaQud » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:43 am

Have you thought of Googling those questions?
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Postby Cetacea » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:55 am

The answer to all questions is "Yes"

and after getting bored of ops questions I started reading them as

1. Is the cerebrum the brain or part of the brain?
If you say he is part of the brain, then he is not the brain?

2. Is the the cerebellum the brain?

3. Okay, so what is the brain?
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The Archregimancy wrote:If this is true, then you presumably don't need us to answer your questions, do you?

But that would deny everyone a chance to argue over something that's been argued from what I'm sure is every angle possible.
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Herador wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:If this is true, then you presumably don't need us to answer your questions, do you?

But that would deny everyone a chance to argue over something that's been argued from what I'm sure is every angle possible.


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Beloyukto wrote:1. Is Jesus god or the son of God?
If you say he is the son of god, then he is not god?

Yes and no.
Beloyukto wrote:2. Is the holy Spirit god?

Yes and no
Beloyukto wrote:3. Okay, so who is the father? Is he God?

Yes and no
Beloyukto wrote:4. Just tell me plain: Who is god?

Amalgam of gods from older Middle-eastern pantheon.

Beloyukto wrote:5. How is God one and the same time three? (1=3)?

Reasons
Beloyukto wrote:6. The trinity... Do they equal one? Or does one equal three?

Both
Beloyukto wrote:7. Jesus died on the cross... So now he is dead? Okay part of god is dead? For those who say Jesus is god... A punch of Jews killed God? So a punch of Jews are stronger than God? Or maybe stronger that a part of God?

Resurrection.
Beloyukto wrote:8. Christians say Jesus died for my (and your) sins. Did he die for the sins of the Jews who killed him? Are they going to heaven?

Yes if they believe and repent
Beloyukto wrote:9. So everyone is going to heaven? (Remember, Jesus died for our sins). Who about those who deny that there is god?

They are separated from YHWH.
Beloyukto wrote:10. Jesus says in the bible: "Do not call me good no body is good except god".
Jesus clearly states that he isn't god. But [maybe] you just said he was god. Please explain I'm confused now.

Which gospel?
Beloyukto wrote:11. Jesus says in the bible: "Hear O Israel the lord our god is one lord". So there is only one god? And by 'our', Jesus is referring to himself and Israel, so god is also the god of Jesus? So God is actually A god of a god?

Not all gospels and denominations support Trinity
Beloyukto wrote:12. This is a question about your opinion: What do you think of other Abrahamic religions? Please explain don't just say eg. "Jews are bad".

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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:59 am

Beloyukto wrote:Hello everyone! How are you doing today? :)
I just have a few questions for Christians that I wish someone could answer them. I am not Christian but I have pretty good knowledge of Christianity and the Bible. Okay here we go:

1. Is Jesus god or the son of God?
If you say he is the son of god, then he is not god?

2. Is the holy Spirit god?

3. Okay, so who is the father? Is he God?

4. Just tell me plain: Who is god?

5. How is God one and the same time three? (1=3)?

6. The trinity... Do they equal one? Or does one equal three?

7. Jesus died on the cross... So now he is dead? Okay part of god is dead? For those who say Jesus is god... A punch of Jews killed God? So a punch of Jews are stronger than God? Or maybe stronger that a part of God?

8. Christians say Jesus died for my (and your) sins. Did he die for the sins of the Jews who killed him? Are they going to heaven?

9. So everyone is going to heaven? (Remember, Jesus died for our sins). Who about those who deny that there is god?

10. Jesus says in the bible: "Do not call me good no body is good except god".
Jesus clearly states that he isn't god. But [maybe] you just said he was god. Please explain I'm confused now.

11. Jesus says in the bible: "Hear O Israel the lord our god is one lord". So there is only one god? And by 'our', Jesus is referring to himself and Israel, so god is also the god of Jesus? So God is actually A god of a god?

12. This is a question about your opinion: What do you think of other Abrahamic religions? Please explain don't just say eg. "Jews are bad".

7. The Romans killed him not the jews.
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Postby Angleter » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:12 am

1-6: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

7: Jesus died in the human sense of the word - he did not cease to exist. Of course, he was then resurrected and ascended into Heaven. As for his death, it was divine plan - you as much as said so when you pointed out that Jesus died for our sins.

8: The issue of salvation is very complicated. Leaving aside whether those responsible for Jesus' death (Jewish or Roman Pagan) are going/went to Heaven (since that's very contentious), basically everyone except the Calvinists say yes, Jesus died for everyone. Calvinists say he only died for a pre-ordained elect.

9: This is very contentious. Whether you believe those outside the Christian faith can be saved depends on which denomination you are. In general, Catholics and especially the Orthodox are open to the possibility (although some Traditionalist Catholics, like the SSPX, believe only Catholics can be saved). Liberal Protestants generally are too, while Conservative Protestants aren't.

10: He asked (in Mark 10:18, for everyone else), "why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone." Jesus openly accepts the title of 'good' elsewhere in the Gospel (Good Shepherd, etc.), and here he's essentially asking the rich man if he knows that he's implying that Jesus is God.

11: God is universal.

12: I have no problem with either.
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Postby Cill Airne » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:25 am

1. Is Jesus god or the son of God?
If you say he is the son of god, then he is not god?
Jesus is God, and is part of the trinity as the Son of God.

2. Is the holy Spirit god?
Yes, the Holy Ghost is, as well, God.

3. Okay, so who is the father? Is he God?
The Father is God, just as much as the Holy Ghost and Jesus. They are the three aspects of One.

4. Just tell me plain: Who is god?
God is Creator of heaven and earth.

5. How is God one and the same time three? (1=3)?
The three individuals are not actual individuals. It is not 1+1+1=1, but 1 "thing" with three separate aspects. Like 3 sides of 1 coin, if you will. Without one, the other two are not.

6. The trinity... Do they equal one? Or does one equal three?
Yes, the Trinity is 1.

7. Jesus died on the cross... So now he is dead? Okay part of god is dead? For those who say Jesus is god... A punch of Jews killed God? So a punch of Jews are stronger than God? Or maybe stronger that a part of God?
No, Jesus is not dead. On the third day he rose from the grave and ascended into Heaven where he is seated at the right of God, the Father almighty.

8. Christians say Jesus died for my (and your) sins. Did he die for the sins of the Jews who killed him? Are they going to heaven?
Yes, Jesus died for those who killed him - if they accepted his teachings and sought forgiveness of their sins then yes, they can go to heaven.

9. So everyone is going to heaven? (Remember, Jesus died for our sins). Who about those who deny that there is god?
No, those who still live in a state of sins may not go to heaven, but purgatory to seek atonement of their sins.

10. Jesus says in the bible: "Do not call me good no body is good except god".
Jesus clearly states that he isn't god. But [maybe] you just said he was god. Please explain I'm confused now.
Its a misquote - at first glance (and without reading the passages around it) it seems like he is saying not to call him good. However, with further reading it shows that he is not stating he alone is good, for God is good and good comes from him - and that people need to recognise God as good and not just Jesus.

11. Jesus says in the bible: "Hear O Israel the lord our god is one lord". So there is only one god? And by 'our', Jesus is referring to himself and Israel, so god is also the god of Jesus? So God is actually A god of a god?
Yes, God is one, without the other aspects of God it is incomplete, a circle is broken. Jesus recognised his power, his life, came from God and that he is just as much his God as anyone else, even if it was because he was the incarnate of God.

12. This is a question about your opinion: What do you think of other Abrahamic religions? Please explain don't just say eg. "Jews are bad".
I am fine with the Abrahamic religions, we worship the same God and we should not let minor divides... divide us.
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Postby America Resurgent » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:46 am

Beloyukto wrote:Hello everyone! How are you doing today? :)
I just have a few questions for Christians that I wish someone could answer them. I am not Christian but I have pretty good knowledge of Christianity and the Bible. Okay here we go:


It's actually pretty much the same here. But I'm a used-to-be/sort-of-still Christian who resolved those paradoxes.

1. Is Jesus god or the son of God?


He's an aspect of god in the body of a child he created.

If you say he is the son of god, then he is not god?


See above.

2. Is the holy Spirit god?


According to the Bible, it's God's third aspect, possibly representing all of humanity.

3. Okay, so who is the father? Is he God?


He's God's first aspect, representing his desire to smite evildoers/people he hates.

4. Just tell me plain: Who is god?


God is a world-consciousness, the various parts of His personality manifesting as separate entities.

5. How is God one and the same time three? (1=3)?


The same way a Congress is at once a single unit and many different individuals. Different parts of God are indeed distinct from each other, but the whole can act as well.

6. The trinity... Do they equal one? Or does one equal three?


Both?

7. Jesus died on the cross... So now he is dead? Okay part of god is dead?


He was resurrected, so no.

For those who say Jesus is god... A punch of Jews killed God? So a punch of Jews are stronger than God? Or maybe stronger that a part of God?


Than a part of God after He refused to put up a fight, yes. And even then He didn't stay down long.

8. Christians say Jesus died for my (and your) sins. Did he die for the sins of the Jews who killed him? Are they going to heaven?


I personally don't buy the idea that heaven is actually an "afterlife" in the traditional sense--it's not a place people go when they die. Rather, heaven is a society on Earth that God will create and resurrect the dead to occupy during the second coming, and the dead just cease to exist when dead normally.

9. So everyone is going to heaven? (Remember, Jesus died for our sins). Who about those who deny that there is god?


Everyone will be resurrected so they can live in heaven, yes.

10. Jesus says in the bible: "Do not call me good no body is good except god".
Jesus clearly states that he isn't god. But [maybe] you just said he was god. Please explain I'm confused now.


He's not the whole of God. He wants worship directed to the full being, not he, himself, a part and idol. Plus he knew that the martyr effect would be a lot worse of a gambit if there was nothing that his followers could carry on for.

11. Jesus says in the bible: "Hear O Israel the lord our god is one lord". So there is only one god? And by 'our', Jesus is referring to himself and Israel, so god is also the god of Jesus? So God is actually A god of a god?


Well, yeah, Jesus has as much reverence for his source being as anyone, even if the source being is less separate from and above Him.

12. This is a question about your opinion: What do you think of other Abrahamic religions? Please explain don't just say eg. "Jews are bad".


Hrm...I would have to say that both the other two are way too variable to really say "this religion is X" right away--I like liberal Muslims and tolerant Jews.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:56 am

geez unless you are trying to figure the differences between Christian denominations you already know the standard answer to these questions.

so are you wanting people to JUSTIFY their religious beliefs?
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Postby Reggae Magmia » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:26 am

Beloyukto wrote:1. Is Jesus god or the son of God?
If you say he is the son of god, then he is not god?

He is and he isn't. He is in a sense because, as the Gospel of John says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1)..."The Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We observed His glory, the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth." (1:14) (HCSB translation).

He isn't in the sense of this; worshiping Jesus is not the same as worshiping the Father. Jesus never objected to people calling him God, but he told them to worship the Father, not himself.

2. Is the holy Spirit god?

Yes and no. It is not directly God, but it is His presence among us. It is the fire of the Word that we receive.

3. Okay, so who is the father? Is he God?

Yes, in his fatherly state. God is a spirit that takes on roles. The Father is one of them.

4. Just tell me plain: Who is god?

The Creator.

5. How is God one and the same time three? (1=3)?

He takes on 3 roles, but is not 3 deities/beings/whatever. God is first a spirit who takes on the role of our Father. He is the Holy Spirit, his presence among us on Earth by which all of creation is connected. And he is the Son, who is the human example of Himself.

6. The trinity... Do they equal one? Or does one equal three?

1 god who takes on 3 roles.

7. Jesus died on the cross... So now he is dead? Okay part of god is dead? For those who say Jesus is god... A punch of Jews killed God? So a punch of Jews are stronger than God? Or maybe stronger that a part of God?

No, he rose from the dead. That was the beginning of our faith. If he was dead then there would be no Christian faith. That's the danger of putting Jesus on the same identical level as God; you can forget that he was an actual human being.

Well technically it was the Romans that actually carried out his execution... But Jesus did as the Father wanted him to do; to die for our sins. He could have saved himself, but that was not what was meant to be done, so he didn't.

8. Christians say Jesus died for my (and your) sins. Did he die for the sins of the Jews who killed him? Are they going to heaven?

Yes.
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9. So everyone is going to heaven? (Remember, Jesus died for our sins). Who about those who deny that there is god?

They will experience eternal separation from God. Whether or not that = Fire and Brimstone, I don't know. Increasingly though, I am finding that that's not the case.

10. Jesus says in the bible: "Do not call me good no body is good except god".
Jesus clearly states that he isn't god. But [maybe] you just said he was god. Please explain I'm confused now.

Book, chapter, and verse please. That sounds more like something from one of Paul's letters...
But even if so, look at my explanations on the deity of Jesus.

11. Jesus says in the bible: "Hear O Israel the lord our god is one lord". So there is only one god? And by 'our', Jesus is referring to himself and Israel, so god is also the god of Jesus? So God is actually A god of a god?

Look at my explanation on the deity of Jesus.

12. This is a question about your opinion: What do you think of other Abrahamic religions? Please explain don't just say eg. "Jews are bad".

I rather not. Not because I have a negative view of them, but I don't want to start a discussion that will turn into a threadjack.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:30 am

Beloyukto wrote:1. Is Jesus god or the son of God?
If you say he is the son of god, then he is not god?

Trinity dogma.

2. Is the holy Spirit god?

Trinity dogma.

3. Okay, so who is the father? Is he God?

Trinity dogma.
Is that hard?

4. Just tell me plain: Who is god?

The most perfect being, eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent; coincidence of will and act; creator and not creature.

5. How is God one and the same time three? (1=3)?

Trinity dogma. The fog is thick, isn't it?

6. The trinity... Do they equal one? Or does one equal three?

T. R. I. N. I. T. Y. D. O. G. M. A.

7. Jesus died on the cross... So now he is dead?

No.
Resurrection dogma.

8. Christians say Jesus died for my (and your) sins. Did he die for the sins of the Jews who killed him? Are they going to heaven?

Yes to the first, and likely - although debated - to the latter.

9. So everyone is going to heaven? (Remember, Jesus died for our sins). Who about those who deny that there is god?

Depends on the interpretation.

10. Jesus says in the bible: "Do not call me good no body is good except god".
Jesus clearly states that he isn't god. But [maybe] you just said he was god. Please explain I'm confused now.

That's why it takes faith.

11. Jesus says in the bible: "Hear O Israel the lord our god is one lord". So there is only one god? And by 'our', Jesus is referring to himself and Israel, so god is also the god of Jesus? So God is actually A god of a god?

Paradox of dual nature.

12. This is a question about your opinion: What do you think of other Abrahamic religions? Please explain don't just say eg. "Jews are bad".

I don't care a lot for religions anyway.
But sure, if you want to raise a critique of a religion, you should read a bit more first.
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Postby Beloyukto » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:05 am

Thanks for the replies, they're much better than the irrelevant "Google them; since u alrdy know" stuff. Now, it's nice to see a post about religion without flaming :P

Just one last thing I want to ask: From what I know, the Catholic church does not allow Christian nuns and priests to marry, so they can't have children and family because they devote time to god and are better than this need. However in the same time Christians believe that GOD has a son, Jesus. How can God have a son, while worshipers of god can't so they can devoted their life to god, while he has a son.

I don't know if this is actually worth asking but this has been in my head.

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Postby GHAUNADAUR » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:19 am

Beloyukto wrote:Thanks for the replies, they're much better than the irrelevant "Google them; since u alrdy know" stuff. Now, it's nice to see a post about religion without flaming :P

Just one last thing I want to ask: From what I know, the Catholic church does not allow Christian nuns and priests to marry, so they can't have children and family because they devote time to god and are better than this need. However in the same time Christians believe that GOD has a son, Jesus. How can God have a son, while worshipers of god can't so they can devoted their life to god, while he has a son.

I don't know if this is actually worth asking but this has been in my head.


Simple answer? Not all religions seem to translate things very well. Paul stated he wished all were like him.. without a wife, without family so they could devote their lives to service. However Paul also knew he was not like others and therefor said that man and woman should marry for the temptation of sin would be made less that way.

The early Jews in the old testament to also were of the same mind.. be alone to be closer to God.. its simply wrong and in my opinion a gross misinterpretation. I don't really see anywhere in the new testament were God commands his followers to be celibate.

Again, this is my opinion.
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Beloyukto wrote:Thanks for the replies, they're much better than the irrelevant "Google them; since u alrdy know" stuff. Now, it's nice to see a post about religion without flaming :P

Just one last thing I want to ask: From what I know, the Catholic church does not allow Christian nuns and priests to marry, so they can't have children and family because they devote time to god and are better than this need. However in the same time Christians believe that GOD has a son, Jesus. How can God have a son, while worshipers of god can't so they can devoted their life to god, while he has a son.

I don't know if this is actually worth asking but this has been in my head.


False dichotomy on many levels; but, for the record, it would be perfectly possible for a Catholic priest (or monk, or nun) to have had children - they need only be a widower/widow before taking holy orders.

Also Eastern Rite Catholic priests can marry and have children. Celibacy is not universal in the Catholic church, only a requirement for Western Rite Catholics; and even then it's a discipline rather than a dogma, so the Catholic Church could revoke the requirement tomorrow.

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Postby Cetacea » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:27 am

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Beloyukto wrote:Thanks for the replies, they're much better than the irrelevant "Google them; since u alrdy know" stuff. Now, it's nice to see a post about religion without flaming :P

Just one last thing I want to ask: From what I know, the Catholic church does not allow Christian nuns and priests to marry, so they can't have children and family because they devote time to god and are better than this need. However in the same time Christians believe that GOD has a son, Jesus. How can God have a son, while worshipers of god can't so they can devoted their life to god, while he has a son.

I don't know if this is actually worth asking but this has been in my head.


Simple answer? Not all religions seem to translate things very well. Paul stated he wished all were like him.. without a wife, without family so they could devote their lives to service. However Paul also knew he was not like others and therefor said that man and woman should marry for the temptation of sin would be made less that way.

The early Jews in the old testament to also were of the same mind.. be alone to be closer to God.. its simply wrong and in my opinion a gross misinterpretation. I don't really see anywhere in the new testament were God commands his followers to be celibate.

Again, this is my opinion.


yeah its a Paul thing and nothing to do with Christ. Paul was a misogynist eunuch, the the Council of Nicea came along and made it mandatory, woman got kicked out a few years later (Jesus and the first christians allowed woman to be ordained)

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Postby Risottia » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:32 am

Beloyukto wrote:FOD has a son, Jesus. How can God have a son, while worshipers of god can't so they can devoted their life to god, while he has a son.


Priests, friars and nuns are humans. They're not omnipotent.

Also, deities tend not to be bound by the same rules they made for humans to follow.

Simple.

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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:44 am

1. Jesus is both son of God and part of God.

2. The Holy Spirit is God.

3. Yes.

4. God is the creator of everything.

5. He just is.

6. Both.

7. Jesus died on the cross, then was resurrected and ascended into Heaven.

8. He died for everyone's sins, Jews included. You go to Heaven if you accept God into your heart.

9. Those who deny God go to Hell.

10. During His time on Earth, Jesus was part human, thus His ability to die and feel pain.

11. God is the God of all, including Himself, and again Jesus was part human.

12. The Jews were mislead, and they are still the chosen people of God. Islam, to my knowledge of its origin, is a mix of Christianity and Judaism.
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Postby Disserbia » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:52 am

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. I just did.
5. I'm not God and I'm also bad at math.
6. I'm still bad at math.
7. A punch of Jews? Is that a Nazi cocktail or something?
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9. No.
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11. OMG redundant people should GO TO HELL.
12. I like Jewish food, also half my family is Muslim and they seem alright. Basically, it's for God to judge, not me.
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Postby Distruzio » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:57 pm

Beloyukto wrote:Hello everyone! How are you doing today? :)
I just have a few questions for Christians that I wish someone could answer them. I am not Christian but I have pretty good knowledge of Christianity and the Bible. Okay here we go:

1. Is Jesus god or the son of God? God

2. Is the holy Spirit god? Yes

3. Okay, so who is the father? Is he God? God. Yes

4. Just tell me plain: Who is god? God is God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

5. How is God one and the same time three? (1=3)? He is God. He is perfect relationship. He is three unique and individual persons in complete voluntary communion and participation with one another.

6. The trinity... Do they equal one? Or does one equal three? Yes.

7. Jesus died on the cross... So now he is dead? Okay part of god is dead? For those who say Jesus is god... A punch of Jews killed God? So a punch of Jews are stronger than God? Or maybe stronger that a part of God? God is humble. Jesus is God. Jesus yet lives.

8. Christians say Jesus died for my (and your) sins. Did he die for the sins of the Jews who killed him? Are they going to heaven? I couldn't presume to speak for them. There are those within the Church but without God and there are those without God but within the Church. Who am I to say who goes and who does not? Also... as an aside, the Romans killed Jesus.

9. So everyone is going to heaven? (Remember, Jesus died for our sins). Who about those who deny that there is god? I couldn't presume to speak for them. There are those within the Church but without God and there are those without God but within the Church. Who am I to say who goes and who does not?

10. Jesus says in the bible: "Do not call me good no body is good except god".
Jesus clearly states that he isn't god. But [maybe] you just said he was god. Please explain I'm confused now. He is saying that He is God.

11. Jesus says in the bible: "Hear O Israel the lord our god is one lord". So there is only one god? And by 'our', Jesus is referring to himself and Israel, so god is also the god of Jesus? So God is actually A god of a god? Yes.

12. This is a question about your opinion: What do you think of other Abrahamic religions? Please explain don't just say eg. "Jews are bad". Both Judaism and Islam are beautiful in their own ways, but they are not Christian. Bahaism is repulsive, utterly.
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Postby Distruzio » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:00 pm

Beloyukto wrote:Thanks for the replies, they're much better than the irrelevant "Google them; since u alrdy know" stuff. Now, it's nice to see a post about religion without flaming :P

Just one last thing I want to ask: From what I know, the Catholic church does not allow Christian nuns and priests to marry, so they can't have children and family because they devote time to god and are better than this need. However in the same time Christians believe that GOD has a son, Jesus. How can God have a son, while worshipers of god can't so they can devoted their life to god, while he has a son.

I don't know if this is actually worth asking but this has been in my head.


False dichotomy. Sorry boss.
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