Do you think that the U.S. will go to war with Iran in 2013?

[Kazarja]

It wouldn't surprise me if this happens sometime Between May-August. Anyway, if the U.S. does go to war with Iran, do you think that a military draft including men and women will be put into place. The idea of a war with Iran and a military draft scares me to death!

[Risottia]

Notgonnahappen.

[Xathranaar]

Barring some massive alteration of the status quo, no.

[Sniper Country]

Not even remotely.

[Ralkovia]

No. Sanctions will effectively collapse the Iranian Government in the end. The youth of Iran is quite liberal. The government's day are numbered.

[Grenartia]

It wouldn't surprise me if this happens sometime Between May-August. Anyway, if the U.S. does go to war with Iran, do you think that a military draft including men and women will be put into place. The idea of a war with Iran and a military draft scares me to death!

Probably will happen (I think it will be later than August), but no draft.

No. Sanctions will effectively collapse the Iranian Government in the end. The youth of Iran is quite liberal. The government's day are numbered.

True, however, I think that the Iranian Government may become so desparate to hold onto its power that it will do anything to keep it. Including a war with Israel.

[Yue-Laou]

I hope so, but draft? No way.

[United Prefectures of Appia]

Unfortunately, it seems very high likely that the US will engage a war with Iran as history repeats itself once more. If anyone thinks it's because of nuclear weapons must be high on something I swear.

[New England and The Maritimes]

If Iran does manage access to nuclear weapons and continues to act provocatively, the US(among others) will be in a situation where it is simply not possible to avoid serious first strikes against their nuclear capability using any means necessary. So it's up to them for now.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

It wouldn't surprise me if this happens sometime Between May-August. Anyway, if the U.S. does go to war with Iran, do you think that a military draft including men and women will be put into place. The idea of a war with Iran and a military draft scares me to death!

Probably will happen (I think it will be later than August), but no draft.

No. Sanctions will effectively collapse the Iranian Government in the end. The youth of Iran is quite liberal. The government's day are numbered.

True, however, I think that the Iranian Government may become so desparate to hold onto its power that it will do anything to keep it. Including a war with Israel.

Except the one thing that will absolutely guarantee the fall of the Iranian government, more than literally ANY other factor, is war with Israel. They know it too. It's almost a mini-MAD situation there, if Iran ever gets a bomb.

Unfortunately, it seems very high likely that the US will engage a war with Iran as history repeats itself once more. If anyone thinks it's because of nuclear weapons must be high on something I swear.

Right, the people basing their judgements on whether there will be a war or not on the development and existence of practical and massively significant instruments of geopolitical/military power and the resulting effects on the power structure of the Middle East (as well as that of the Iranian/Israeli governments themselves) are the high ones.
The ones with theories based around "well, it's likely, history repeating itself imperialism warmongers world police" are the high ones.
We don't need Iranian oil anymore. Appetite for a war in the Middle East has seldom been lower. It's nukes, some massive terrorism/stability paradigm change, or nothing.

[Defensor]

No.

Edit: NO.

[SquareDisc City]

Not unless Iran does something stupid like invading its neighbours. I think even an Iranian nuclear test wouldn't result in a large-scale US military response, though it may well result in such a response from Israel.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Probably will happen (I think it will be later than August), but no draft.



True, however, I think that the Iranian Government may become so desparate to hold onto its power that it will do anything to keep it. Including a war with Israel.

Except the one thing that will absolutely guarantee the fall of the Iranian government, more than literally ANY other factor, is war with Israel. They know it too. It's almost a mini-MAD situation there, if Iran ever gets a bomb.

It won't be MAD at all, not until Iran gains enough weapons to ensure second-strike capability. That won't be for decades. If Iran is ever in war during that interval the only possible course of action a nuclear power could take would be a first strike at their limited capability using any means necessary up to and including nuclear first strikes against them. It's not MAD, it's ASD(Assured Self-Destruction), and that is why Iran shouldn't have nuclear weapons under the current political circumstances.

[United Prefectures of Appia]

If Iran does manage access to nuclear weapons and continues to act provocatively, the US(among others) will be in a situation where it is simply not possible to avoid serious first strikes against their nuclear capability using any means necessary. So it's up to them for now.

Well, I don't like the Iranian regime anymore than the next person, but for all these decades their hostilities towards the West have practically been reactionary since their revolution. Also, it should be noticed that North Korea is way ahead of Iran in developing nuclear weapons as they're using plutonium instead of uranium. Granted both nations are nowhere near WW2 levels, but you have to wonder why US and NATO haven't even beaten a war drum against NK regarding nukes as much as they do with Iran.

[Lidli]

No clue and dont care. As long as the U.S doesnt attack Ireland, I say have at it.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Except the one thing that will absolutely guarantee the fall of the Iranian government, more than literally ANY other factor, is war with Israel. They know it too. It's almost a mini-MAD situation there, if Iran ever gets a bomb.

It won't be MAD at all, not until Iran gains enough weapons to ensure second-strike capability. That won't be for decades.

Maybe I'm just overtired. That probably wasn't the best choice of terms, true.

If Iran is ever in war during that interval the only possible course of action a nuclear power could take would be a first strike at their limited capability using any means necessary up to and including nuclear first strikes against them. It's not MAD, it's ASD(Assured Self-Destruction),

Knew there was an acronym somewhere.
Although I doubt nukes would ever get used by the US without Iran detonating something first.

and that is why Iran shouldn't have nuclear weapons under the current political circumstances.

Indeed.

Anyway, Iran's mostly just posturing here. The government doesn't really have the support of the population, militarily they're not nearly the equal of Israel or the US, and well, they don't have the bomb yet. Meanwhile, the sanctions grind away...

[The Tiger Kingdom]

If Iran does manage access to nuclear weapons and continues to act provocatively, the US(among others) will be in a situation where it is simply not possible to avoid serious first strikes against their nuclear capability using any means necessary. So it's up to them for now.

Well, I don't like the Iranian regime anymore than the next person, but for all these decades their hostilities towards the West have practically been reactionary since their revolution. Also, it should be noticed that North Korea is way ahead of Iran in developing nuclear weapons as they're using plutonium instead of uranium. Granted both nations are nowhere near WW2 levels, but you have to wonder why US and NATO haven't even beaten a war drum against NK regarding nukes as much as they do with Iran.

Well, the Hostage Crisis burned a hell of a lot of bridges, keep in mind.

And the North Korea situation is vastly different from Iran. NK enjoys the tacit support of China (although to what degree they still actually do is up for debate), as well asthe NK artillery stranglehold on Seoul, added to the fact that it's such an incredibly closed and relentlessly controlled society, to the point where nobody in there can practically access outside information (as opposed to Iran, where you can, at least to a significant degree), adds up to a much riskier proposition in several ways.

[Immoren]

Seems as likely as me winning lottery.

[Defensor]

Seems as likely as me winning lottery.

1/680,000,000,000 chance....I say the odds are for us

[United Prefectures of Appia]

Oh I did I forget to mention the Ayatollah said that for Iran to acquire nuclear weapons is a sin?

[New England and The Maritimes]

If Iran does manage access to nuclear weapons and continues to act provocatively, the US(among others) will be in a situation where it is simply not possible to avoid serious first strikes against their nuclear capability using any means necessary. So it's up to them for now.

Well, I don't like the Iranian regime anymore than the next person, but for all these decades their hostilities towards the West have practically been reactionary since their revolution. Also, it should be noticed that North Korea is way ahead of Iran in developing nuclear weapons as they're using plutonium instead of uranium. Granted both nations are nowhere near WW2 levels, but you have to wonder why US and NATO haven't even beaten a war drum against NK regarding nukes as much as they do with Iran.

North Korea already has a few things going for it that make direct military intervention unlikely. Iran has none of those. The only thing keeping a conflict with Iran limited to the persian gulf is that that is the only place in which Iran has any muscle, and it's not much. If Iran has a nuclear weapon, the US has to think about serious potential damage to American assets and lives in the region. Plenty of important bases, especially in Bahrain, exist within range of Iranian missile delivery capability. So the US has to think about whether it's wise to engage in a conventional showdown when Iran will threaten or potentially use nuclear weapons against, say, NSA Bahrain. Either the US accepts this kind of catastrophic loss, or the US prevents it, and obviously the US will move to prevent it. It turns any calculation involving how to handle Iran into a nuclear calculation because Iran becomes a nuclear threat without being threatening enough to outright prevent conflict.

[R0MAN0VA]

Unfortunately, it seems very high likely that the US will engage a war with Iran as history repeats itself once more. If anyone thinks it's because of nuclear weapons must be high on something I swear.

True, just look at any nation today trying to be and act like a sovereign nation and you'll find they're either on the watch list or invade here list

Edit: well besides 'Murica of course, all bow down before our mighty democr....repub....oligarch....corporations!!!

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Unfortunately, it seems very high likely that the US will engage a war with Iran as history repeats itself once more. If anyone thinks it's because of nuclear weapons must be high on something I swear.

True, just look at any nation today trying to be and act like a sovereign nation and you'll find they're either on the watch list or invade here list

Sovereign nation here = violently putting down democratic protestors demonstrating against a obviously rigged election/openly ruling as a theocratic government above the fake "democratic" level/sponsoring various terrorist groups

[Disserbia]

I don't really don't think so, and I definitely hope not.

[United Prefectures of Appia]

North Korea already has a few things going for it that make direct military intervention unlikely. Iran has none of those. The only thing keeping a conflict with Iran limited to the persian gulf is that that is the only place in which Iran has any muscle, and it's not much. If Iran has a nuclear weapon, the US has to think about serious potential damage to American assets and lives in the region. Plenty of important bases, especially in Bahrain, exist within range of Iranian missile delivery capability. So the US has to think about whether it's wise to engage in a conventional showdown when Iran will threaten or potentially use nuclear weapons against, say, NSA Bahrain. Either the US accepts this kind of catastrophic loss, or the US prevents it, and obviously the US will move to prevent it. It turns any calculation involving how to handle Iran into a nuclear calculation because Iran becomes a nuclear threat without being threatening enough to outright prevent conflict.

You do realize that NK is more likely to develop nuclear weapons first before Iran, right? If that's the case, it would make sense to put more focus on them than Iran, right? It'd make more sense to target a nation that acquires nukes first and foremost as a high priority. I don't believe Iran is likely to be in any position to be a very serious threat given all the talks. If you check American mainstream media (TV news), I doubt they'll say anything about the Ayatollah's decree against nuclear weapons. Now imagine what would've happened had NK suddenly owned a vast field of oil reserves, you think they wouldn't be getting all the media press attention all of a sudden?