7 Worst Things About Being Male

[The Blaatschapen]

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

i'm not mindless.

in fact my brain is my second favorite organ.

Which brain?

[Ethel mermania]

All prudes, except when around other men while you aren't there.
Then they are sluts.
It's part of the childish and prudish suspicion that someone, somewhere, is having fun and you aren't. So since you aren't having fun you decide to throw the toys out of the pram and say nobody is allowed any.
Ofcourse, the amount of fucking that was going on is inevitably much less fucking than these people suspect.

The trick is to have more fun than anyone else.

that has always been my goal.

[Coccygia]

There's some point to some of those items...but how the heck did they not put being kicked in the balls at the top, or even on the list? I mean, males have to have their sperm generators hanging out of their bodies! (Women don't hafta go around with their ovaries hangin' out!) All because...well, because sperm production is optimized at room temperature...but why is that? Because we were descended from cold-blooded critters?

[The Steel Magnolia]

Many radical feminists have serious issues with the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival. There is a branch of feminism you could call separatism. That's where a lot of the things you don't like come from.

Alright, cheers for the info. I appreciate it.

One thing I want to address: Radical feminists are against prostitution. There is no leeway here, prostitution is a form of objectification which radical feminists disagree with along with pornography.

Then I definitely can't align myself with the movement. I don't deny that the porn industry is problematic in the extreme, but I personally adhere to aspects more along the lines of choice feminism, though that too has its problems.

A lot of the conflict between trans activists and radical feminists is centered around the issue of gender but that's not an excuse for trans-phobia.

Here is the problem:

"A trans activist wants the right to be seen as "boy" or "girl", a radical feminist wants the right to be seen as a person." In their efforts to be treated equally and with the respect they deserve many trans people are forced to cling to rigid gender constructs.

* note I know that trans activists want the same thing (to be treated as a person, I'm talking about the focus of their activism)

That's a bit of a simplification, and I don't agree with the notion that trans* people are forced to cling to rigid gender constructs. I think that's much more of a 80s/90s phenomenon, and I'm unaware of any transgender person who doesn't know the difference between gender expression and gender identity.

Radical feminism is against the social construction of gender (not sex), or as one radical feminist put it: "What I do rightly criticize is the social construction of gender (not sex) as an idea, not an attack on trans people.""

I would assert that any attack on gender as a social as opposed to the importance we place upon it, or at least doing so without acknowledging the difference between gender identity and gender is by necessity problematic. By seeking to destroy a fundamental part of one's identity, you destroy them. That's something I don't think I can ever support.

If it means anything to you, I don't think ANY of the radical feminists I know in real life have anything against trans people and are very accepting.

It does, actually. I do appreciate knowing that my anger was misdirected - I don't like attacking groups undeserving of my ire.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Best thing about being male?

I get to play rage metal at full volume and everyone assumes that it is normal.

the world is my pissouir. rage metal ick, give me louie and ella anyday.

Rage Metal is for when I'm needing to get my anger at the world out. It's also my workout music, because it is pretty much the only thing that helps get my heart moving fast.

When I'm working, I listen to Chopin, Bach, Brahms, Mozart, etc.

When I'm home I listen to mostly classic Irish folk music, or things like Dropkick Murphys, Flogging Molly, or The Rumjacks.

[The Steel Magnolia]

That'd be great if the whole world did it.

Since they don't, it's a wonderful way to pat yourself on the back for being accepting while not doing a single fucking thing to accomplish any change for oppressed minorities.

If someone differs their action as though the divisions do exist, refuse to accept it and argue against it. Do not give them your patronage if they are commercial. Do not give them your vote if they are political, etc.

So... argue against the entire world, refuse to buy anything, and refuse to engage in political processes.

That'll help minorities!

[Ethel mermania]

Perhaps that's a perception issue on my end. The vast majority of self identified radfems I've encountered have been horribly vile individuals, be it in hatred towards sex workers, transgender people, et cetera. I'm aware that such a selection may not be a true sampling of actual radfems, but I would also say that they also have the loudest voices.

At least. I'm pretty sure they did when they found out my personal information and decided to phone all of my contacts, telling them a number of particularly horrid things. I'm not trying to demonize the entire movement (though I realize I am) and I certainly acknowledge that there's likely aspects I'm unaware of, but my experience with it, and the experiences of all the trans* people I know with it have been particularly atrocious. I'm a diehard feminist, make no mistake, but I'm not sure I can ever align myself with that particular ideology.


I'm inclined to agree here.



I find that many radical feminists confuse eliminating gender roles and gender discrimination with eliminating gender.



There are certainly many flaws within the feminist movement, be its actions towards people of colour, political lesbianism, and rampant transphobia within the mainstream establishment (which is admittedly more of a historical problem than one that exists currently, at least insofar as much as trans* people are excluded everywhere. Michigan's Womyn's Music Festival springs to mind). Propping up the patriarchy is not a complaint I have heard levied at feminism however.


I don't disbelieve you, it's just something I had never been aware of before. I appreciate the info though!

Many radical feminists have serious issues with the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival. There is a branch of feminism you could call separatism. That's where a lot of the things you don't like come from.

One thing I want to address: Radical feminists are against prostitution. There is no leeway here, prostitution is a form of objectification which radical feminists disagree with along with pornography.

A lot of the conflict between trans activists and radical feminists is centered around the issue of gender but that's not an excuse for trans-phobia.

Here is the problem:

"A trans activist wants the right to be seen as "boy" or "girl", a radical feminist wants the right to be seen as a person." In their efforts to be treated equally and with the respect they deserve many trans people are forced to cling to rigid gender constructs.

* note I know that trans activists want the same thing (to be treated as a person, I'm talking about the focus of their activism)

Radical feminism is against the social construction of gender (not sex), or as one radical feminist put it: "What I do rightly criticize is the social construction of gender (not sex) as an idea, not an attack on trans people.""

If it means anything to you, I don't think ANY of the radical feminists I know in real life have anything against trans people and are very accepting.

On the internet it's a different story. I don't know what it is with the internet and attracting bully's.

camille paglia would disagree with you about prostitution

[The Blaatschapen]

The trick is to have more fun than anyone else.

that has always been my goal.

My goal is just to have fun and not care about what the rest is doing, as long as they're not spoiling mine(by finishing the beer for example).

[The Blaatschapen]

If someone differs their action as though the divisions do exist, refuse to accept it and argue against it. Do not give them your patronage if they are commercial. Do not give them your vote if they are political, etc.

So... argue against the entire world, refuse to buy anything, and refuse to engage in political processes.

That'll help minorities!

You can create your own stuff. You can become your own political party.

[Ethel mermania]

What? That's not at all representative of the actual problems a male-gender person faces... If anything, it seems more like misanthropic MRA's acting up again and assuming that gender stereotypes are 100% true, even for males.

sex not gender.

men do die earlier than women
men have les impulse control than women
men lie to women about their earning more than women lie to men about it.
as per kinsey men have a higher sex drive than women


that said, its a joke article

[Vareiln]

What? That's not at all representative of the actual problems a male-gender person faces... If anything, it seems more like misanthropic MRA's acting up again and assuming that gender stereotypes are 100% true, even for males.

sex not gender.

men do die earlier than women
men have les impulse control than women
men lie to women about their earning more than women lie to men about it.
as per kinsey men have a higher sex drive than women


that said, its a joke article

Sorry about the mistake. I've been trying to catch it, but it slips through sometimes.
Well, yeah, but other than the first, that's all stuff that isn't impossible to overcome.

[Natapoc]

Many radical feminists have serious issues with the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival. There is a branch of feminism you could call separatism. That's where a lot of the things you don't like come from.

One thing I want to address: Radical feminists are against prostitution. There is no leeway here, prostitution is a form of objectification which radical feminists disagree with along with pornography.

A lot of the conflict between trans activists and radical feminists is centered around the issue of gender but that's not an excuse for trans-phobia.

Here is the problem:

"A trans activist wants the right to be seen as "boy" or "girl", a radical feminist wants the right to be seen as a person." In their efforts to be treated equally and with the respect they deserve many trans people are forced to cling to rigid gender constructs.

* note I know that trans activists want the same thing (to be treated as a person, I'm talking about the focus of their activism)

Radical feminism is against the social construction of gender (not sex), or as one radical feminist put it: "What I do rightly criticize is the social construction of gender (not sex) as an idea, not an attack on trans people.""

If it means anything to you, I don't think ANY of the radical feminists I know in real life have anything against trans people and are very accepting.

On the internet it's a different story. I don't know what it is with the internet and attracting bully's.

camille paglia would disagree with you about prostitution

Camille Paglia admits that her views run counter to those of most feminists. She considers herself a "dissident feminist". I'm trying to communicate, the best I can, what radical feminism is, and is not, about because many people. Yes I know camille paglia, and plenty of other people don't think the view of most radical feminists is correct.

[Ethel mermania]

that has always been my goal.

My goal is just to have fun and not care about what the rest is doing, as long as they're not spoiling mine(by finishing the beer for example).

well that is a crime against humanity, unless i am going to get laid out of the deal.

that said, you get one ride in this life, you may as well enjoy it, because that is all you get.

[The Blaatschapen]

My goal is just to have fun and not care about what the rest is doing, as long as they're not spoiling mine(by finishing the beer for example).

well that is a crime against humanity, unless i am going to get laid out of the deal.

that said, you get one ride in this life, you may as well enjoy it, because that is all you get.

I don't care if you get laid. That's entirely up to you. (Edit: And well.... Miss Mermania in this particular case I guess).

And at this very moment it is only one ride. Technology might be able to make it multiple. Or an eternal one. We'll see what's the better option. But that's waaaay off topic.

[Ethel mermania]

sex not gender.

men do die earlier than women
men have les impulse control than women
men lie to women about their earning more than women lie to men about it.
as per kinsey men have a higher sex drive than women


that said, its a joke article

Sorry about the mistake. I've been trying to catch it, but it slips through sometimes.
Well, yeah, but other than the first, that's all stuff that isn't impossible to overcome.

impulse control as well, look at the diagnostic rates of add adhd and autism 4x male to female. thats got to be biological. the others yeah maybe socitial based.

[Augarundus]

None of these are true, and there is no downside to being male.

No.

Downside.

[Ethel mermania]

well that is a crime against humanity, unless i am going to get laid out of the deal.

that said, you get one ride in this life, you may as well enjoy it, because that is all you get.

I don't care if you get laid. That's entirely up to you. (Edit: And well.... Miss Mermania in this particular case I guess).

And at this very moment it is only one ride. Technology might be able to make it multiple. Or an eternal one. We'll see what's the better option. But that's waaaay off topic.

true enough, mrs mermainia would take my head off, if i played without her. her rule is i cant bring anything home, window shopping is ok.

[The Emerald Dawn]

None of these are true, and there is no downside to being male.

No.

Downside.

Incorrect. There are downsides to being genetically male, and downsides to being genetically female.

[Natapoc]

Many radical feminists have serious issues with the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival. There is a branch of feminism you could call separatism. That's where a lot of the things you don't like come from.

Alright, cheers for the info. I appreciate it.

One thing I want to address: Radical feminists are against prostitution. There is no leeway here, prostitution is a form of objectification which radical feminists disagree with along with pornography.

Then I definitely can't align myself with the movement. I don't deny that the porn industry is problematic in the extreme, but I personally adhere to aspects more along the lines of choice feminism, though that too has its problems.

That's okay, you don't need to align yourself with radical feminism if you disagree with it.

A lot of the conflict between trans activists and radical feminists is centered around the issue of gender but that's not an excuse for trans-phobia.

Here is the problem:

"A trans activist wants the right to be seen as "boy" or "girl", a radical feminist wants the right to be seen as a person." In their efforts to be treated equally and with the respect they deserve many trans people are forced to cling to rigid gender constructs.

* note I know that trans activists want the same thing (to be treated as a person, I'm talking about the focus of their activism)

That's a bit of a simplification, and I don't agree with the notion that trans* people are forced to cling to rigid gender constructs. I think that's much more of a 80s/90s phenomenon, and I'm unaware of any transgender person who doesn't know the difference between gender expression and gender identity.

Radical feminism is against the social construction of gender (not sex), or as one radical feminist put it: "What I do rightly criticize is the social construction of gender (not sex) as an idea, not an attack on trans people.""

I would assert that any attack on gender as a social as opposed to the importance we place upon it, or at least doing so without acknowledging the difference between gender identity and gender is by necessity problematic. By seeking to destroy a fundamental part of one's identity, you destroy them. That's something I don't think I can ever support.

If it means anything to you, I don't think ANY of the radical feminists I know in real life have anything against trans people and are very accepting.

It does, actually. I do appreciate knowing that my anger was misdirected - I don't like attacking groups undeserving of my ire.

Okay you don't need to support it but I hope you understand that it's not an attack on trans people and that if radical feminists got their way trans people would be treated no differently than anyone else and have all rights. The only difference would be that they would not be treated as a specific gender (because no one would be)

What exactly do you feel constitutes a gender identity? One problem may be that some of what you consider gender identity, others may consider a damaging social construct.

[The Emerald Dawn]

I don't care if you get laid. That's entirely up to you. (Edit: And well.... Miss Mermania in this particular case I guess).

And at this very moment it is only one ride. Technology might be able to make it multiple. Or an eternal one. We'll see what's the better option. But that's waaaay off topic.

true enough, mrs mermainia would take my head off, if i played without her. her rule is i cant bring anything home, window shopping is ok.

If I window shop and don't point out to The and/or Gif, I end up in trouble. If I bring someone home, my wife has sworn up and down that she'll happily engage in foursome. I've always been tempted to try, but I doubt I'll ever actually do.

[Ethel mermania]

None of these are true, and there is no downside to being male.

No.

Downside.

source for dying younger is not true?
source for women not having better impulse control than men?
source for women having the same sex drive as men?

im not saying who has it better or worse, cause that is a load of crap. but you made a few claims, please source them

[The Blaatschapen]

None of these are true, and there is no downside to being male.

No.

Downside.

All recessive inherited diseases that are on the X chromosome are quite a group of downsides: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-linked_r ... e#Examples

[Natapoc]

None of these are true, and there is no downside to being male.

No.

Downside.

source for dying younger is not true?
source for women not having better impulse control than men?
source for women having the same sex drive as men?

im not saying who has it better or worse, cause that is a load of crap. but you made a few claims, please source them

As for your last two... At least not as much as people think:


"According to a new study by researchers at Ohio State University, the oft-cited statistic that men think about sex, on average, about once every seven seconds can safely be put to bed—in a college-age population of 163 mixed-gender respondents, the median frequency of sexual thoughts for men was just 19. Women, meanwhile, weren’t far behind at a median of 10 naughty thoughts per day.

The lead author on the study, Dr. Terri Fisher, explained in a press release that the impetus for the research was partly to dispense with the notion that men are slaves to their more carnal instincts, as well as to show that women aren’t so innocent, either.

"It's amazing the way people will spout off these fake statistics that men think about sex nearly constantly and so much more often than women do," she said. "When a man hears a statement like that, he might think there's something wrong with him because he's not spending that much time thinking about sexuality, and when women hear about this, if they spend significant time thinking about sex they might think there's something wrong with them.”

But showing that men think about sex only a little more than women do was just one part of the study’s results. As part of their experimental design, Fisher and her team had tasked some of the participants with recording their thoughts about eating or sleeping instead of sex; in analyzing this extra data, the researchers found that men think about biological urges in general (hunger, tiredness, and, indeed, lust) a little more often than women do. However, Fisher notes that this could be due to gender-specific socialization in our society that discourages women from expressing their physical desires openly, as opposed to a true sex-based distinction.

So, a fair warning to guys with wandering eyes: The biology excuse won’t work so well anymore.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... omen_.html"

[Cannot think of a name]

That... doesn't actually change the underlying point.

I'd argue that it fundamentally does.
Pretending doesn't include action.
And yes, it really would fix things if people thought and acted in ways that did not acknowledge social divisions. I can't think of a single issue where this isn't true.

Is this the 'stop hitting yourself' philosophy of social engineering?

[The Blaatschapen]

true enough, mrs mermainia would take my head off, if i played without her. her rule is i cant bring anything home, window shopping is ok.

If I window shop and don't point out to The and/or Gif, I end up in trouble. If I bring someone home, my wife has sworn up and down that she'll happily engage in foursome. I've always been tempted to try, but I doubt I'll ever actually do.

Leave some for us. You already have 2