7 Worst Things About Being Male

[Esternial]

I'm more of a fan of Clara Cleymans.

But that's not a "cougar".

Oh, right.

Still...

[The Emerald Dawn]

Undoubtly.

I'm more of a fan of Clara Cleymans.

She's not a "Cougar."

She's nine years younger than I am, and I'm no where NEAR "old" yet.

[Nadkor]

Yeah, I know. *shakes head* It's subtle, but it's there.

Okay I've changed my mind. No.1 worst thing to being a male is having everyone else assume that you can't control yourself/your natural state is rapist/etc, etc.

This situtation is very much not helped by the not insignificant number of men who use arguments (particularly surrounding rape and sexual assault) from which the only inference to draw is precisely that.

[The Blaatschapen]

Okay I've changed my mind. No.1 worst thing to being a male is having everyone else assume that you can't control yourself/your natural state is rapist/etc, etc.

This situtation is very much not helped by the not insignificant number of men who use arguments (particularly surrounding rape and sexual assault) from which the only inference to draw is precisely that.

I truly hope I'm not one of those

[Nadkor]

Hoisted with his own petard.

If you could speak the kings english and not self rightjus blabery i'd appericiate it.

Ladies and gentlemen, big news: Shakespeare is not "kings english".

Purge the language.

[The Emerald Dawn]

This situtation is very much not helped by the not insignificant number of men who use arguments (particularly surrounding rape and sexual assault) from which the only inference to draw is precisely that.

I truly hope I'm not one of those

Unless you say that people are to be blamed for being raped, you're likely not.

[Nadkor]

This situtation is very much not helped by the not insignificant number of men who use arguments (particularly surrounding rape and sexual assault) from which the only inference to draw is precisely that.

I truly hope I'm not one of those

Not at all.

[The Blaatschapen]

But that's not a "cougar".

Oh, right.

Still...

It reminds me of the good old times when HC and me were posting pictures from Simone Simons

[The Blaatschapen]

I truly hope I'm not one of those

Unless you say that people are to be blamed for being raped, you're likely not.

Thanks.

I truly hope I'm not one of those

Not at all.

Good to hear.

[Individuality-ness]

Yeah, I know. *shakes head* It's subtle, but it's there.

Okay I've changed my mind. No.1 worst thing to being a male is having everyone else assume that you can't control yourself/your natural state is rapist/etc, etc.

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Okay so there are a minority (A MINORITY) of radical feminists who are trans phobic. Many radical feminists do not consider trans-phobic people to be feminists AT ALL (I actually just saw a big discussion on that in a forum I frequent that has a high percentage of radical feminists)

Perhaps that's a perception issue on my end. The vast majority of self identified radfems I've encountered have been horribly vile individuals, be it in hatred towards sex workers, transgender people, et cetera. I'm aware that such a selection may not be a true sampling of actual radfems, but I would also say that they also have the loudest voices.

At least. I'm pretty sure they did when they found out my personal information and decided to phone all of my contacts, telling them a number of particularly horrid things. I'm not trying to demonize the entire movement (though I realize I am) and I certainly acknowledge that there's likely aspects I'm unaware of, but my experience with it, and the experiences of all the trans* people I know with it have been particularly atrocious. I'm a diehard feminist, make no mistake, but I'm not sure I can ever align myself with that particular ideology.

I'm not sure if trans phobic people can be feminists or not, But I can say their trans phobia is bigotry that has no place in feminism (especially not radical feminism)

I'm inclined to agree here.

There is one area of discussion that has to be tread lightly and that's the fact that many radical feminists do not believe in gender roles at all BUT many trans people seem to cling to gender roles which frustrates many radical feminists.

I think this can be solved easily by using a little compassion and realizing that a few trans people are not what's propping up patriarchy and that really the lives of people who are transgender will be much much more easy once we eliminate gender roles and expectations.

I find that many radical feminists confuse eliminating gender roles and gender discrimination with eliminating gender.

You asked: Is eliminating patriarchy pretty much the basic principle of feminism? Well, kinda. Ideally yes but there is a lot of argument about if some feminists are actually working to destroy patriarchy, or if they are legitimizing it in the way they advocate.

There are certainly many flaws within the feminist movement, be its actions towards people of colour, political lesbianism, and rampant transphobia within the mainstream establishment (which is admittedly more of a historical problem than one that exists currently, at least insofar as much as trans* people are excluded everywhere. Michigan's Womyn's Music Festival springs to mind). Propping up the patriarchy is not a complaint I have heard levied at feminism however.

But yes Radical feminism is the branch of feminism that advocates focusing on the "root" of the problem. In case you don't believe me, source:

I don't disbelieve you, it's just something I had never been aware of before. I appreciate the info though!

[The Blaatschapen]

Okay I've changed my mind. No.1 worst thing to being a male is having everyone else assume that you can't control yourself/your natural state is rapist/etc, etc.

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

Hmm, sheep are considered to be mindless, and are animals...

[The Emerald Dawn]

Okay I've changed my mind. No.1 worst thing to being a male is having everyone else assume that you can't control yourself/your natural state is rapist/etc, etc.

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

Well, let's just give into our nature then Indi. I'll lust after you, and you'll call me a cripple and never wear a dress that doesn't cover your neck, wrists, and ankles.

[Ostroeuropa]

Okay I've changed my mind. No.1 worst thing to being a male is having everyone else assume that you can't control yourself/your natural state is rapist/etc, etc.

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

All prudes, except when around other men while you aren't there.
Then they are sluts.
It's part of the childish and prudish suspicion that someone, somewhere, is having fun and you aren't. So since you aren't having fun you decide to throw the toys out of the pram and say nobody is allowed any.
Ofcourse, the amount of fucking that was going on is inevitably much less fucking than these people suspect.

[Individuality-ness]

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

Well, let's just give into our nature then Indi. I'll lust after you, and you'll call me a cripple and never wear a dress that doesn't cover your neck, wrists, and ankles.

That's not how life is supposed to be lived!

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

All prudes, except when around other men while you aren't there.
Then they are sluts.
It's part of the childish and prudish suspicion that someone, somewhere, is having fun and you aren't. So since you aren't having fun you decide to throw the toys out of the pram and say nobody is allowed any.
Ofcourse, the amount of fucking that was going on is inevitably much less fucking than these people suspect.

People have a habit of making the world seem to be more pleasurable/vile than it really is.

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

Hmm, sheep are considered to be mindless, and are animals...

You don't count Blaat.

[Esternial]

I'm more of a fan of Clara Cleymans.

She's not a "Cougar."

She's nine years younger than I am, and I'm no where NEAR "old" yet.

I forgot that we were talking about cougar >.>

Gramps

[The Blaatschapen]

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

All prudes, except when around other men while you aren't there.
Then they are sluts.
It's part of the childish and prudish suspicion that someone, somewhere, is having fun and you aren't. So since you aren't having fun you decide to throw the toys out of the pram and say nobody is allowed any.
Ofcourse, the amount of fucking that was going on is inevitably much less fucking than these people suspect.

The trick is to have more fun than anyone else.

[The Blaatschapen]

You don't count Blaat.

I always get that

[Freelanderness]

Okay I've changed my mind. No.1 worst thing to being a male is having everyone else assume that you can't control yourself/your natural state is rapist/etc, etc.

This situtation is very much not helped by the not insignificant number of men who use arguments (particularly surrounding rape and sexual assault) from which the only inference to draw is precisely that.

Yes ma'am, I know exactly what you're talking about. I *love* it when people tell me that being anti-rape is anti-male.

Okay I've changed my mind. No.1 worst thing to being a male is having everyone else assume that you can't control yourself/your natural state is rapist/etc, etc.

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

Yeah stereotypes are the bane of my existence.

[Individuality-ness]

It sucks. Men are mindless sex animals and women all actually secretly hate men and are prudes. This world sucks.

Yeah stereotypes are the bane of my existence.

Why can't we treat people like people, amirite?

[The Blaatschapen]

Yeah stereotypes are the bane of my existence.

I prefer 'monotypes' myself.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Well, let's just give into our nature then Indi. I'll lust after you, and you'll call me a cripple and never wear a dress that doesn't cover your neck, wrists, and ankles.

That's not how life is supposed to be lived!

Good thing I have a lovely lady feeding me grapes, and another lovely lady practicing her piano and singing for us.

I'd invite you, but my plane is in the shop.

She's not a "Cougar."

She's nine years younger than I am, and I'm no where NEAR "old" yet.

I forgot that we were talking about cougar >.>

Gramps

OI! I have no children (that I'm aware of) and can therefore not have grandchildren. Ya whipper-snapper. Get off mah lahn.

[The Blaatschapen]

Yeah stereotypes are the bane of my existence.

Why can't we treat people like people, amirite?

That would humanize them Think of the consequences and all those people that have to face their fears, rather than projecting them on others in order to make themselves feel good

[Nadkor]

Why can't we treat people like people, amirite?

That would humanize them Think of the consequences and all those people that have to face their fears, rather than projecting them on others in order to make themselves feel good

Truly, a horror.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Why can't we treat people like people, amirite?

That would humanize them Think of the consequences and all those people that have to face their fears, rather than projecting them on others in order to make themselves feel good

Have you ever seen a room full of paradigms shifting without a clutch?

It's hilarious. Seriously, truly hilarious.