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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:55 pm

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Really? I mean, really?

No not realy but this donst help the sterotype that women are over emotinal.


Posts like yours also don't help a variety of stereotypes.
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:55 pm

The united imperial sector wrote:You see things like this are why we want the women in the kitchen not outside or on the computer.


And this is why children should be seen and not heard.
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Postby Freelanderness » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:56 pm

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Freelanderness wrote:what if the computer is in the kitchen, and you do remember that the kitchen is where the knives are, correct?

Hmm that should be taken into consideration then... :oops:

Lol, good boy. And *I'm* the over-emotional and irrational one. :p
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:56 pm

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The Emerald Dawn wrote:Belgian women, much like women in other nations, are a diverse lot. You'll find some crazies, some babes, some crazy babes, some radical marxists, and the occasional "Cougar" who will absolutely destroy your sexual chi.


I know. Hmmm, talking about cougars, what's Goedele Liekens doing nowadays? :blush:

Being very, very sexy.

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Postby Nadkor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:56 pm

The united imperial sector wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Really? I mean, really?

No not realy but this donst help the sterotype that women are over emotinal.


Which bit does, precisely?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:56 pm

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Freelanderness wrote:I find the massive amount of stereotyping in the article to discredit its legitimacy.

Of course there are down sides to "being male" just as there are downsides to "being female". Is one more important than the other? It depends on the issue, because the majority of times, the issues happen to both genders, just at differing rates.

It's ridiculous. You might be interested in the 7 Best Things about Being Male, it's just as bad and equally worthy of a facepalm.


The best thing is undoubtably the 8th day of the week where men all across the planet secretly drug all the women to be asleep for 24 hours and then don their cult robes and meet in Missouri to discuss and vote on how best to oppress the womenfolk, then slip back into our beds with them nonethewiser. The chilli at the meetings is to die for.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:56 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:It's ridiculous. You might be interested in the 7 Best Things about Being Male, it's just as bad and equally worthy of a facepalm.

But is it funny when interpreted as satire?

No, it's actually quite sad. In that one he actually victim-blames male victims of sexual assault.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:It's ridiculous. You might be interested in the 7 Best Things about Being Male, it's just as bad and equally worthy of a facepalm.


I knew I was being too hopeful when I expected it to be a comprehensive analysis of male privilege.

Best thing about being male?

I get to play rage metal at full volume and everyone assumes that it is normal.

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Postby The united imperial sector » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm

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The united imperial sector wrote:You see things like this are why we want the women in the kitchen not outside or on the computer.


And this is why children should be seen and not heard.

Yes and that would be true if I was in fact a child.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:It's ridiculous. You might be interested in the 7 Best Things about Being Male, it's just as bad and equally worthy of a facepalm.

I knew I was being too hopeful when I expected it to be a comprehensive analysis of male privilege.

You wish. But no.
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm

The united imperial sector wrote:
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And this is why children should be seen and not heard.

Yes and that would be true if I was in fact a child.


When you act like a child you can expect to be treated like a child.
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Postby Freelanderness » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:58 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:But is it funny when interpreted as satire?

No, it's actually quite sad. In that one he actually victim-blames male victims of sexual assault.

... Well that's just shitty af. I take it all back.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:58 pm

The united imperial sector wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
And this is why children should be seen and not heard.

Yes and that would be true if I was in fact a child.

The united imperial sector wrote:Im 15 and yes i know i speel horribly.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:58 pm

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I know. Hmmm, talking about cougars, what's Goedele Liekens doing nowadays? :blush:

Being very, very sexy.


Undoubtly.
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:58 pm

1. People want to hurt you.

Some amount of bullying/getting hurt is healthy. If you've been brought up to be a softy, you could end up being a doormat for the rest of your life. The problem begins when there's so much bullying, that it permanently damages you. That's why a country should invest in having a quality school system, to prevent that bullshit.

2. You have problems controlling your impulses.

Not really.

3. For a good portion of your life, you have an irrationally and self-destructively high desire for sex.

Not really a problem for me.

4. If you are heterosexual, those sexual partners you desire so much do not reciprocate your urgency.

Bullshit. Maybe for people in certain categories, but that hasn't been the case for me. If you respect women, and you're confident, intelligent, and good looking, you will satisfy said urge, when you need to. Just remember: if you and your partner go for it, make sure that each one knows exactly what you're getting into.

5. You feel compelled to make money, and then to throw it away in public.

Yes, I feel compelled to make money, in a money dominated society. No shit Sherlock. But throwing it away in public? Nope, I don't feel compelled to do that at all.

6. You have a hard time getting social support for all these problems.


Three words: Guys' Night Out :D

7. And then you die (younger).

Yeah, cause girls don't usually jump off of piers into the water on a Guys' Night Out, over a $200 bet :P
Face it guys, women simply do less exciting and stupid shit than we do. That's why they live longer.
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Postby The united imperial sector » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:58 pm

Esternial wrote:
The united imperial sector wrote:Yes and that would be true if I was in fact a child.

The united imperial sector wrote:Im 15 and yes i know i speel horribly.

I congradulate you on finding that post to use against me. :clap:

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Postby Person012345 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:59 pm

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Person012345 wrote:Do you know what the methodology was? Because if they went around asking men what men thought was so terrible about being men, that doesn't really prove shit.

Even the quickest skim read of the source reveals they didn't do that.

The source (or at least what appears to be the primary one) is cited as a book which you have to buy before you can read. So enlighten me.

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Postby Nadkor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:59 pm

Esternial wrote:
The united imperial sector wrote:Yes and that would be true if I was in fact a child.

The united imperial sector wrote:Im 15 and yes i know i speel horribly.


Hoisted with his own petard.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:59 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:It's ridiculous. You might be interested in the 7 Best Things about Being Male, it's just as bad and equally worthy of a facepalm.


The best thing is undoubtably the 8th day of the week where men all across the planet secretly drug all the women to be asleep for 24 hours and then don their cult robes and meet in Missouri to discuss and vote on how best to oppress the womenfolk, then slip back into our beds with them nonethewiser. The chilli at the meetings is to die for.


I have a platinum card at the airlines because of that. Missouri is a long way from here.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:00 pm

Freelanderness wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:No, it's actually quite sad. In that one he actually victim-blames male victims of sexual assault.

... Well that's just shitty af. I take it all back.

Yeah, I know. *shakes head* It's subtle, but it's there.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:00 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Being very, very sexy.


Undoubtly.

I'm more of a fan of Clara Cleymans.

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Postby Freelanderness » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:01 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:... Well that's just shitty af. I take it all back.

Yeah, I know. *shakes head* It's subtle, but it's there.

Okay I've changed my mind. No.1 worst thing to being a male is having everyone else assume that you can't control yourself/your natural state is rapist/etc, etc.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:01 pm

Esternial wrote:
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Undoubtly.

I'm more of a fan of Clara Cleymans.


But that's not a "cougar".
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Postby The united imperial sector » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:01 pm

Nadkor wrote:
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Hoisted with his own petard.

If you could speak the kings english and not self rightjus blabery i'd appericiate it.

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Postby Natapoc » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:01 pm

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Natapoc wrote:Radical comes from the latin word meaning "root". Most Radical feminists are NOT nuts. Radical feminism is called such because it seeks to solve the "roots" of the problem of patriarchy, not because it's somehow extreme.



Ostroeuropa, how many radical feminists do you know personally? I know several and none of them are "nuts".


I think your quote thing is a bit screwed up.

Anyway I have nothing against radical feminism in principle, but when literally everything on radical feminism I've ever read and every radical feminist I've ever talked to has been horribly transphobic, I'm not much inclined to like the ideology as a whole.

I also wouldn't call trying to solve the root of the patriarchy radical as in extreme. Perhaps I've been unaware of that definition, and I've never known the origins of the term. But to me, isn't solving the root of patriarchy a pretty basic principle of feminism?


Okay so there are a minority (A MINORITY) of radical feminists who are trans phobic. Many radical feminists do not consider trans-phobic people to be feminists AT ALL (I actually just saw a big discussion on that in a forum I frequent that has a high percentage of radical feminists)

I'm not sure if trans phobic people can be feminists or not, But I can say their trans phobia is bigotry that has no place in feminism (especially not radical feminism)

There is one area of discussion that has to be tread lightly and that's the fact that many radical feminists do not believe in gender roles at all BUT many trans people seem to cling to gender roles which frustrates many radical feminists.

I think this can be solved easily by using a little compassion and realizing that a few trans people are not what's propping up patriarchy and that really the lives of people who are transgender will be much much more easy once we eliminate gender roles and expectations.


You asked: Is eliminating patriarchy pretty much the basic principle of feminism? Well, kinda. Ideally yes but there is a lot of argument about if some feminists are actually working to destroy patriarchy, or if they are legitimizing it in the way they advocate.

But yes Radical feminism is the branch of feminism that advocates focusing on the "root" of the problem. In case you don't believe me, source:

Radical feminism is a "current"[1] within feminism that focuses on the theory of patriarchy as a system of power that organizes society into a complex of relationships based on an assumption of "male supremacy"[1] used to oppress women. Radical feminism aims to challenge and to overthrow patriarchy by opposing standard gender roles and the male oppression of women, and calls for a radical reordering of society. Early radical feminism, arising within second-wave feminism in the 1960s,[2] typically viewed patriarchy as a "transhistorical phenomenon"[3] prior to or deeper than other sources of oppression, "not only the oldest and most universal form of domination but the primary form" and the model for all others.[4] Later politics derived from radical feminism ranged from cultural feminism[1] to more syncretic politics that placed issues of class, economics, etc. on a par with patriarchy as sources of oppression.[5]

Radical feminists locate the root cause of women's oppression in patriarchal gender relations, as opposed to legal systems (as in liberal feminism) or class conflict (as in socialist feminism and Marxist feminism.)
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