7 Worst Things About Being Male

[The Steel Magnolia]

Same thing with the whole trans-exclusive/gender abolitionist shite.

I find it endlessly amusing that they use the same arguments as Riki Wilchins, a (batshit insane) trans person. It's endlessly delightful.

gender abolitionism is fairly mainstream and fits perfectly in line with individualism, except in it's hardcore forms.

Not... really.

I wouldn't call it mainstream at all, firstly, and I would also assume that individualism would allow one to assert one's own gender identity?

[The Blaatschapen]

Oh, I don't doubt that you do. But for many people there is implied sexual bargaining going on, whether everyone involved realises it at the time or not.

Unfortunately.

Maybe I need to start looking lonely and sad in bars on the off chance that nice people will buy me free beer. Maybe that's where I've been going wrong.

I'll try that as well.

Though I doubt it'll have the same effect.

I did the exact opposite, I was happy and dancing (my friends weren't), girls came and talked to me. No free beer though. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers.

[Ostroeuropa]

gender abolitionism is fairly mainstream and fits perfectly in line with individualism, except in it's hardcore forms.

Not... really.

I wouldn't call it mainstream at all, firstly, and I would also assume that individualism would allow one to assert one's own gender identity?

Not according to most radical feminists i've heard. But then ofcourse, society is currently pretty individualist so ofcourse they have to argue it's somehow inherently sexist. I admit that most of the radical feminists that end up being famous are the ones with weird views.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Not... really.

I wouldn't call it mainstream at all, firstly, and I would also assume that individualism would allow one to assert one's own gender identity?

Not according to most radical feminists i've heard. But then ofcourse, society is currently pretty individualist so ofcourse they have to argue it's somehow inherently sexist.

That's because most radfems are fucking nuts.

[The Blaatschapen]

Not according to most radical feminists i've heard. But then ofcourse, society is currently pretty individualist so ofcourse they have to argue it's somehow inherently sexist.

That's because most radfems are fucking nuts.

All radfems are fucking nuts. Otherwise they wouldn't be radical.

[Esternial]

I'll try that as well.

Though I doubt it'll have the same effect.

I did the exact opposite, I was happy and dancing (my friends weren't), girls came and talked to me. No free beer though. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers.

I'm not a one-night stand person. Wouldn't even know how to get around to it.

[Ostroeuropa]

I did the exact opposite, I was happy and dancing (my friends weren't), girls came and talked to me. No free beer though. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers.

I'm not a one-night stand person. Wouldn't even know how to get around to it.

Step 1: Find someone you want to have sex with
Step 2: Get talking
Step 3: Do you still want to have sex with them? If no, go to step 1. If yes, continue to step 4.
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Have sex with them.

[Esternial]

I'm not a one-night stand person. Wouldn't even know how to get around to it.

Step 1: Find someone you want to have sex with
Step 2: Get talking
Step 3: Do you still want to have sex with them? If no, go to step 1. If yes, continue to step 4.
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Have sex with them.

I think the problem lies with my own confidence. I should do a run of "Rules of the Game"

[Olivaero]

I'm not a one-night stand person. Wouldn't even know how to get around to it.

Step 1: Find someone you want to have sex with
Step 2: Get talking
Step 3: Do you still want to have sex with them? If no, go to step 1. If yes, continue to step 4.
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Have sex with them.

Step 4 is always the easiest step *nods*

[Ostroeuropa]

Step 1: Find someone you want to have sex with
Step 2: Get talking
Step 3: Do you still want to have sex with them? If no, go to step 1. If yes, continue to step 4.
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Have sex with them.

I think the problem lies with my own confidence. I should do a run of "Rules of the Game"

My problem is I consistently friendzone myself by being an IRL pinkie pie who decides that my new friend simply must meet all my other friends and ohmygoshyou'reallgonnagetalonggreatandit'llbesofunandwowletsgogogo! *partytime*
Then 3 days later in the middle of shopping i'll realize what i've done and facepalm.

[Nadkor]

Are these random people in the bar that you've never met before or people you'd consider friends (or, I guess, other regulars in the bar, or other people in your group)?

Not random people but not necessarily people you know, They just need to be in the group, "Random" people is also acceptable provided you get talking first, at which point they are no longer random and are part of your group for the night.

This is a thing that happens in most places

It's also a thing that often develops into getting rounds, and that's not what I was talking about.

I don't know if you missed the start of this particular bit, but it was basically Great Nepal saying (to paraphrase) that something exclusive to males is that they have to buy their own beer in bars, to which I pointed out that I've never had random people buying me beer and the whole idea, more generally, that women can walk into bars and drink for free is a total myth.

It's gone off on quite the tangent since then.

I've never seen anyone buy someone a drink without talking to them, but I admit that'd be extremely strange and seem to imply some kind of expectation.

This is a thing that I was talking about more generally. As I say, it's never happened to me (and, again as I said, I've never had anyone who wasn't a friend or, to widen a bit, an acquaintance get me a free drink in a bar), but as you note it comes with an implication.

As it is, what typically happens in bars around here is that as people get progressively more drunk and people go home, the groups eventually end up merged into one massive group for when the pub closes which ends up at somebodies house to continue drinking. I know most of the people who live in my town (that go to bars) as a result, but that wasn't always the case. It's a good community.

This is a thing that, from experience, happens in smaller places (or bars in student halls or similar), but not so much anywhere with any sizeable population.

[Nadkor]

I think the problem lies with my own confidence. I should do a run of "Rules of the Game"

My problem is I consistently friendzone myself by being an IRL pinkie pie who decides that my new friend simply must meet all my other friends and ohmygoshyou'reallgonnagetalonggreatandit'llbesofunandwowletsgogogo! *partytime*
Then 3 days later in the middle of shopping i'll realize what i've done and facepalm.

Don't be one of those guys that believes in the 'friendzone'.

[Ostroeuropa]

Not random people but not necessarily people you know, They just need to be in the group, "Random" people is also acceptable provided you get talking first, at which point they are no longer random and are part of your group for the night.

This is a thing that happens in most places

It's also a thing that often develops into getting rounds, and that's not what I was talking about.

I don't know if you missed the start of this particular tangent, but it was basically Great Nepal saying (to paraphrase) that something exclusive to males is that they have to buy their own beer in bars, to which I pointed out that I've never had random people buying me beer and the whole idea, more generally, that women can walk into bars and drink for free is a total myth.

It's gone off on quite the tangent since then.

I've never seen anyone buy someone a drink without talking to them, but I admit that'd be extremely strange and seem to imply some kind of expectation.

This is a thing that I was talking about more generally. As I say, it's never happened to me (and, again as I said, I've never had anyone who wasn't a friend or, to widen a bit, an acquaintance get me a free drink in a bar), but as you note it comes with an implication.

As it is, what typically happens in bars around here is that as people get progressively more drunk and people go home, the groups eventually end up merged into one massive group for when the pub closes which ends up at somebodies house to continue drinking. I know most of the people who live in my town (that go to bars) as a result, but that wasn't always the case. It's a good community.

This is a thing that, from experience, happens in smaller places (or bars in student halls or similar), but not so much anywhere with any sizeable population.

Yeh I did miss it. And yeh it's probably the size of the town.

[The Blaatschapen]

I did the exact opposite, I was happy and dancing (my friends weren't), girls came and talked to me. No free beer though. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers.

I'm not a one-night stand person. Wouldn't even know how to get around to it.

I'm also not like that. I prefer a partner for a couple of weeks, so that you can really get to know what she likes, etc.

[Ostroeuropa]

My problem is I consistently friendzone myself by being an IRL pinkie pie who decides that my new friend simply must meet all my other friends and ohmygoshyou'reallgonnagetalonggreatandit'llbesofunandwowletsgogogo! *partytime*
Then 3 days later in the middle of shopping i'll realize what i've done and facepalm.

Don't be one of those guys that believes in the 'friendzone'.

It's more that I end up being friends with them, and that I lose any desire to press it further since i'm happy being friends. I enjoy peoples company a lot more than...peoples company i guess. I suspect I may be deluding myself that i'm going out to hit on people when really i'm going out to make more friends and acquire ALL the friends.
I don't believe that women and men have a friendzone, but I do. "Gee, now that I get to talk to this person and hang out with them I don't particularly see the point in going any further!" etc...

[The Blaatschapen]

My problem is I consistently friendzone myself by being an IRL pinkie pie who decides that my new friend simply must meet all my other friends and ohmygoshyou'reallgonnagetalonggreatandit'llbesofunandwowletsgogogo! *partytime*
Then 3 days later in the middle of shopping i'll realize what i've done and facepalm.

Don't be one of those guys that believes in the 'friendzone'.

What's a friendzone? Is it like a calzone?

[Nadkor]

Don't be one of those guys that believes in the 'friendzone'.

What's a friendzone? Is it like a calzone?

Much less tasty.

[The Blaatschapen]

What's a friendzone? Is it like a calzone?

Much less tasty.

And it probably contains more carbs.

[The Emerald Dawn]

...I buy people drinks if they look like they're lonely or down. I don't expect a whammy, just some conversation or at least a smile.

Oh, I don't doubt that you do. But for many people there is implied sexual bargaining going on, whether everyone involved realises it at the time or not.

Unfortunately.

Maybe I need to start looking lonely and sad in bars on the off chance that nice people will buy me free beer. Maybe that's where I've been going wrong.

My best pick up line has always been, "Nice shoes. Wanna fuck?"

Since I'm going to be sober for sex, I'm going to want her to be sober for sex too. It is a lot less fun if she's inebriated.

What's a friendzone? Is it like a calzone?

Much less tasty.

Smells like toast, tastes like failure.

[The Blaatschapen]

Oh, I don't doubt that you do. But for many people there is implied sexual bargaining going on, whether everyone involved realises it at the time or not.

Unfortunately.

Maybe I need to start looking lonely and sad in bars on the off chance that nice people will buy me free beer. Maybe that's where I've been going wrong.

My best pick up line has always been, "Nice shoes. Wanna fuck?"

I know that one in Hungarian. It works great. When in Hungary.

Since I'm going to be sober for sex, I'm going to want her to be sober for sex too. It is a lot less fun if she's inebriated.

I've been there.... It's indeed not so much fun. I bailed out after a while and went to my place.

[Freelanderness]

I find the massive amount of stereotyping in the article to discredit its legitimacy.

Of course there are down sides to "being male" just as there are downsides to "being female". Is one more important than the other? It depends on the issue, because the majority of times, the issues happen to both genders, just at differing rates.

[The Emerald Dawn]

I find the massive amount of stereotyping in the article to discredit its legitimacy.

Of course there are down sides to "being male" just as there are downsides to "being female". Is one more important than the other? It depends on the issue, because the majority of times, the issues happen to both genders, just at differing rates.

Everyone's life will suck. For certain values of suck.

[Esternial]

I'm not a one-night stand person. Wouldn't even know how to get around to it.

I'm also not like that. I prefer a partner for a couple of weeks, so that you can really get to know what she likes, etc.

Indeed, though I'm not really an expert on the matter with only one relationship that is now behind me.

[Natapoc]

All radfems are fucking nuts. Otherwise they wouldn't be radical.

Radical comes from the latin word meaning "root". Most Radical feminists are NOT nuts. Radical feminism is called such because it seeks to solve the "roots" of the problem of patriarchy, not because it's somehow extreme.

That's because most radfems are fucking nuts.

Ostroeuropa, how many radical feminists do you know personally? I know several and none of them are "nuts".

[Ostroeuropa]

Ostroeuropa, how many radical feminists do you know personally? I know several and none of them are "nuts".

I'm not the one who called them nuts.