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Should Assault Weapons be banned?

Yes.
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No.
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Provisional America
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Postby Provisional America » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:17 am

Republica Newland wrote:Hooray for still debating a made up class of firearms.

You go,America!


Yeah, "assault weapons"! What kind of weapon isn't capable of assault?
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Postby Immoren » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:18 am

Provisional America wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:Hooray for still debating a made up class of firearms.

You go,America!


Yeah, "assault weapons"! What kind of weapon isn't capable of assault?


Howitzer. :P
Actually I now want to make bayonet for howitzer.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Republica Newland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:19 am

Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


Benjamin Franklin
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Postby Provisional America » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:20 am

Funny thing is that if most of these gunners had been locked up in the psych wards where they belong, they wouldn't have been free to shoot someone. Just a thought.
My politics have shifted somewhat leftward, but my nation so far hasn't quite moved as far to the left.
I don't date. Why should I? Too many foodie calls happening.
"Then why do you alter the Law to suit yourselves? In a thousand ways, you have perverted not only Moses, but the Nazarene, and you have done so ever since the blasphemous Paul of Tarsus said, 'Christ is the end of the Law.' You are neither Hebrew nor Galilean, but opportunists!" - Julian by the late, great Gore Vidal

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Postby Provisional America » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:23 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


Benjamin Franklin


"A republic, ma'am, if you can keep it." - also Franklin

Dear Dr. Franklin,

We regret to inform you that we have lost your republic. If you can help us find it again, we would be grateful for your aid. Sorry to disturb your long nap.

Signed,
America
My politics have shifted somewhat leftward, but my nation so far hasn't quite moved as far to the left.
I don't date. Why should I? Too many foodie calls happening.
"Then why do you alter the Law to suit yourselves? In a thousand ways, you have perverted not only Moses, but the Nazarene, and you have done so ever since the blasphemous Paul of Tarsus said, 'Christ is the end of the Law.' You are neither Hebrew nor Galilean, but opportunists!" - Julian by the late, great Gore Vidal

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Postby Immoren » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:27 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


Benjamin Franklin


"Roses are red
Violets are blue
Some poems rhyme"
-anon
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Republica Newland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:36 am

Immoren wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:
Benjamin Franklin


"Roses are red
Violets are blue
Some poems rhyme"
-anon


You do realize this isn't 4chan,don't you?
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Postby Luveria » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:37 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Immoren wrote:
"Roses are red
Violets are blue
Some poems rhyme"
-anon


You do realize this isn't 4chan,don't you?


You do realize not everyone is an american that worships the words of the american founding fathers as holy infallible truth?

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Postby Republica Newland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:38 am

Luveria wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:
You do realize this isn't 4chan,don't you?


You do realize not everyone is an american that worships the words of the american founding fathers as holy infallible truth?


And I have implied that,when?
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Postby Immoren » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:40 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Immoren wrote:
"Roses are red
Violets are blue
Some poems rhyme"
-anon


You do realize this isn't 4chan,don't you?

You do realize anon refers it's writer is unknown, not neccesarily from 4chan, don't you?
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Luveria » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:41 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Luveria wrote:
You do realize not everyone is an american that worships the words of the american founding fathers as holy infallible truth?


And I have implied that,when?


The quotes from benjamin franklin being used as implied reasons to oppose an assault weapons ban.

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Postby Republica Newland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:41 am

Immoren wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:
You do realize this isn't 4chan,don't you?

You do realize anon refers it's writer is unknown, not neccesarily from 4chan, don't you?


You do realize that's not even a poem,don't you?
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Postby Republica Newland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:42 am

Luveria wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:
And I have implied that,when?


The quotes from benjamin franklin being used as implied reasons to oppose an assault weapons ban.


And how does this equal this:

everyone is an american that worships the words of the american founding fathers as holy infallible truth


L.E.: I see logic is really really hard for the gun control crowd,considering how their answer to the supposedly "OMG SKY HIGH GUN-RELATED MURDER RATES" is the banning of a made-up "class" of firearms used in 1% of all gun crime.
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Postby Immoren » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:42 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Immoren wrote:You do realize anon refers it's writer is unknown, not neccesarily from 4chan, don't you?


You do realize that's not even a poem,don't you?


Yes. Your point? :P
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Republica Newland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:44 am

Immoren wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:
You do realize that's not even a poem,don't you?


Yes. Your point? :P


That this post makes no sense:

Immoren wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:
Benjamin Franklin


"Roses are red
Violets are blue
Some poems rhyme"
-anon
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Postby Luveria » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:47 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Luveria wrote:
The quotes from benjamin franklin being used as implied reasons to oppose an assault weapons ban.


And how does this equal this:

everyone is an american that worships the words of the american founding fathers as holy infallible truth


L.E.: I see logic is really really hard for the gun control crowd,considering how their answer to the supposedly "OMG SKY HIGH GUN-RELATED MURDER RATES" is the banning of a made-up "class" of firearms used in 1% of all gun crime.


*shrugs*
I would favour registry of all guns rather than banning assault weapons. Not everyone in the gun control crowd wants to take away your precious guns.

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Postby Immoren » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:48 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Yes. Your point? :P


That this post makes no sense:

Immoren wrote:
"Roses are red
Violets are blue
Some poems rhyme"
-anon


I can provide witty(ish) quotes too.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Republica Newland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:51 am

Luveria wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:
And how does this equal this:



L.E.: I see logic is really really hard for the gun control crowd,considering how their answer to the supposedly "OMG SKY HIGH GUN-RELATED MURDER RATES" is the banning of a made-up "class" of firearms used in 1% of all gun crime.


*shrugs*
I would favour registry of all guns rather than banning assault weapons. Not everyone in the gun control crowd wants to take away your precious guns.


This post further proves my point that the bulk of anti-gun people either suffer from Hoplophobia or have various preconceptions regarding guns. Or defending yourself with one doesn't live up to their moral high grounds. Otherwise I see no reason to use the word precious in the way you did.
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Postby Luveria » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:56 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Luveria wrote:
*shrugs*
I would favour registry of all guns rather than banning assault weapons. Not everyone in the gun control crowd wants to take away your precious guns.


This post further proves my point that the bulk of anti-gun people either suffer from Hoplophobia or have various preconceptions regarding guns. Or defending yourself with one doesn't live up to their moral high grounds. Otherwise I see no reason to use the word precious in the way you did.


The most common reason I see for american opposition to gun control is this:
Image

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Postby Immoren » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:59 am

Meself wrote:I want to throw everyone who uses "defense against tyranny" reasoning for gun ownership into gauntlet where they will be targeted with snipers, machine guns, cannon fire, artillery, etc with occasional minefield they need to navigate through.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby New Rayhaven » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:00 am

Luveria wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:
This post further proves my point that the bulk of anti-gun people either suffer from Hoplophobia or have various preconceptions regarding guns. Or defending yourself with one doesn't live up to their moral high grounds. Otherwise I see no reason to use the word precious in the way you did.


The most common reason I see for american opposition to gun control is this:
Image

Such a powerful military! And it's had such great results fighting "terrorists" in the Middle East. :lol:
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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:01 am

New Rayhaven wrote:
Luveria wrote:
The most common reason I see for american opposition to gun control is this:
Image

Such a powerful military! And it's had such great results fighting "terrorists" in the Middle East. :lol:


If it just allowed to bomb every town/city that harbours terrorists into oblivion. :P
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Republica Newland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:06 am

Luveria wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:
This post further proves my point that the bulk of anti-gun people either suffer from Hoplophobia or have various preconceptions regarding guns. Or defending yourself with one doesn't live up to their moral high grounds. Otherwise I see no reason to use the word precious in the way you did.


The most common reason I see for american opposition to gun control is this:
Image


:rofl: Call me when the US military finds some telepathic target acquisition system,until then have fun picking out the rebels out of your own civilian population,unless the military would totally fire on their own families indiscriminately and totally not defect the fuck out while doing it,obviously.

L.E.: Also call me when the USAF finds a method to refuel and rearm in air when not having shit to land on,kthxbai.
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Postby New Rayhaven » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:08 am

Immoren wrote:
New Rayhaven wrote:Such a powerful military! And it's had such great results fighting "terrorists" in the Middle East. :lol:


If it just allowed to bomb every town/city that harbours terrorists into oblivion. :P

Fat chance of them doing that to civilian targets on US soil if they can't even do that in the Middle East.
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Postby Immoren » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:08 am

Republica Newland wrote:,until then have fun picking out the rebels out of your own civilian population

Those who harbour rebels obviously have to die with rebels.

New Rayhaven wrote:
Immoren wrote:
If it just allowed to bomb every town/city that harbours terrorists into oblivion. :P

Fat chance of them doing that to civilian targets on US soil if they can't even do that in the Middle East.


Bah! Decadent modern militaries and modern morals. :P
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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