Should Assault Weapons be banned?

[Big Jim P]

Holy Shit. I was under the impression that this forum was dominated by liberals and yet look at the poll results. Back on topic though I support an assault weapons ban.

Why? It accomplishes nothing. "Assault Rifles" are the least like weapon to be used in murders.

[Gun Manufacturers]

There is no such thing as 'assault weapons'. The only meaningful distinction is between fully-automatic weapons, semi-automatic weapons, and manual weapons. I support a ban on fully-automatic weapons only, so as to impede mass-shootings. I am strongly opposed to a ban on so-called 'assault weapons'.

The deliberately vague term 'assault weapons' is typically used by authoritarian cops (and the corrupt politicians that they have in their back pocket, such as Diane Feinstein) who sympathize with the police-authoritarian ideology of such countries as North Korea, Iran, and the Assad regime. Said police authoritarians don't want the people to possess guns that can pierce their ballistic vests, lest anyone be able to defend themselves from their dominance-asserting intimidating aggression. Therefore they use the vague term 'assault weapons' to refer to the weapons that are most effective at that. We really should not be tolerating these so-called 'Americans' who sympathize with the police-authoritarian ideals of our national enemies; we should deport them to authoritarian countries where they would fit in much better.

Of course, the bolded ignores the fact that legal full auto/select fire weapons haven't been used in mass shootings since the National Firearms Act went into effect in 1934.

[Big Jim P]

There is no such thing as 'assault weapons'. The only meaningful distinction is between fully-automatic weapons, semi-automatic weapons, and manual weapons. I support a ban on fully-automatic weapons only, so as to impede mass-shootings. I am strongly opposed to a ban on so-called 'assault weapons'.

The deliberately vague term 'assault weapons' is typically used by authoritarian cops (and the corrupt politicians that they have in their back pocket, such as Diane Feinstein) who sympathize with the police-authoritarian ideology of such countries as North Korea, Iran, and the Assad regime. Said police authoritarians don't want the people to possess guns that can pierce their ballistic vests, lest anyone be able to defend themselves from their dominance-asserting intimidating aggression. Therefore they use the vague term 'assault weapons' to refer to the weapons that are most effective at that. We really should not be tolerating these so-called 'Americans' who sympathize with the police-authoritarian ideals of our national enemies; we should deport them to authoritarian countries where they would fit in much better.

Of course, the bolded ignores the fact that legal full auto/select fire weapons haven't been used in mass shootings since the National Firearms Act went into effect in 1934.

Of course facts do not matter to the gun-control crowd.

[Screensaver]

Holy Shit. I was under the impression that this forum was dominated by liberals and yet look at the poll results. Back on topic though I support an assault weapons ban.

Why? It accomplishes nothing. "Assault Rifles" are the least like weapon to be used in murders.

1. I define assault weapons as being assault rifles, battle rifles, machine guns, submachine guns, any weapon capable of fully automatic or burst fire, handguns with a magazine capacity of more than 10 rounds, and shotguns more powerful than 12 gauge and/or are capable of automatic fire.

2. What practical reason would a person need an assault rifle for?

[Veceria]

Oh cool, another thread on this topic. *sits back and grabs a bag of popcorn*
I'm really not jealous of Americans when it comes to such debates.

[Free Council Communes]

Why? It accomplishes nothing. "Assault Rifles" are the least like weapon to be used in murders.

1. I define assault weapons as being assault rifles, battle rifles, machine guns, submachine guns, any weapon capable of fully automatic or burst fire, handguns with a magazine capacity of more than 10 rounds, and shotguns more powerful than 12 gauge and/or are capable of automatic fire.

2. What practical reason would a person need an assault rifle for?

To defend liberty & socialism...
But because you support gun control I'm going to assume you hate liberty & socialism.

[Screensaver]

1. I define assault weapons as being assault rifles, battle rifles, machine guns, submachine guns, any weapon capable of fully automatic or burst fire, handguns with a magazine capacity of more than 10 rounds, and shotguns more powerful than 12 gauge and/or are capable of automatic fire.

2. What practical reason would a person need an assault rifle for?

To defend liberty & socialism...
But because you support gun control I'm going to assume you hate liberty & socialism.

No I love liberty but I hate guns. I personally see firearms as a cowards weapon (that's why I prefer swords and my fists).
Also defending liberty (I am assuming you mean from terrorists or enemy nations) is the job of the military and police. Not a rag tag, untrained, out of shape, and poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park.

[Free Council Communes]

To defend liberty & socialism...
But because you support gun control I'm going to assume you hate liberty & socialism.

No I love liberty but I hate guns. I personally see firearms as a cowards weapon (that's why I prefer swords and my fists).
Also defending liberty (I am assuming from terrorists or enemy nations) is the job of the military of police. Not a rag tag, untrained, out of shape, and poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park.

Because, you know, it's never the police and military that oppose freedom. What you call a "poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park", I call members of the revolutionary class that simply need to be roused. Relying on the police and the military to defend freedom is like instituting secret police to protect dissidents.

[Screensaver]

No I love liberty but I hate guns. I personally see firearms as a cowards weapon (that's why I prefer swords and my fists).
Also defending liberty (I am assuming from terrorists or enemy nations) is the job of the military of police. Not a rag tag, untrained, out of shape, and poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park.

Because, you know, it's never the police and military that oppose freedom. What you call a "poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park", I call members of the revolutionary class that simply need to be roused. Relying on the police and the military to defend freedom is like instituting secret police to protect dissidents.

So are you saying that Canada, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, United Kingdom, France, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and so many other free countries are on the verge of becoming oppressive police states because they lack these guys (see image below)



EDIT: By the way I think you should know that vast majority of those "revolutionaries" oppose socialism.

[Nua Corda]

To defend liberty & socialism...
But because you support gun control I'm going to assume you hate liberty & socialism.

No I love liberty but I hate guns. I personally see firearms as a cowards weapon (that's why I prefer swords and my fists).
Also defending liberty (I am assuming you mean from terrorists or enemy nations) is the job of the military and police. Not a rag tag, untrained, out of shape, and poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park.

I personally see swords as a weeboo's weapon (that's why I prefer guns). Also, having sharp objects is a job for chefs and butchers. Not fat, pimply, hentai-fapping man children with no friends.

Not so funny now it's turned on you, eh?

Because, you know, it's never the police and military that oppose freedom. What you call a "poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park", I call members of the revolutionary class that simply need to be roused. Relying on the police and the military to defend freedom is like instituting secret police to protect dissidents.

So are you saying that Canada, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, United Kingdom, France, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and so many other free countries are on the verge of becoming oppressive police states because they lack these guys (see image below)



EDIT: By the way I think you should know that vast majority of those "revolutionaries" oppose socialism.

That is almost as bad as represnting black people like this



Seriously, stop lumping all gun owners togather. It's not nice, it's not accurate, and it makes you look like an annoying middle school twit.

[Screensaver]

No I love liberty but I hate guns. I personally see firearms as a cowards weapon (that's why I prefer swords and my fists).
Also defending liberty (I am assuming you mean from terrorists or enemy nations) is the job of the military and police. Not a rag tag, untrained, out of shape, and poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park.

I personally see swords as a weeboo's weapon (that's why I prefer guns). Also, having sharp objects is a job for chefs and butchers. Not fat, pimply, hentai-fapping man children with no friends.

Not so funny now it's turned on you, eh?

So are you saying that Canada, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, United Kingdom, France, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and so many other free countries are on the verge of becoming oppressive police states because they lack these guys (see image below)



EDIT: By the way I think you should know that vast majority of those "revolutionaries" oppose socialism.

That is almost as bad as represnting black people like this



Seriously, stop lumping all gun owners togather. It's not nice, it's not accurate, and it makes you look like an annoying middle school twit.

First off. I hate anime and I prefer European style swords. In my eyes only a coward would hide behind a gun.

[Hathram]

I personally see swords as a weeboo's weapon (that's why I prefer guns). Also, having sharp objects is a job for chefs and butchers. Not fat, pimply, hentai-fapping man children with no friends.

Not so funny now it's turned on you, eh?



That is almost as bad as represnting black people like this



Seriously, stop lumping all gun owners togather. It's not nice, it's not accurate, and it makes you look like an annoying middle school twit.

First off. I hate anime and I prefer European style swords. In my eyes only a coward would hide behind a gun.

Then the Army trained my battles and I to be cowards.
In the end, when someone is trying to harm me or my family, I'd rather have a gun to stop them. Honor be damned, for their safety.

[Screensaver]

First off. I hate anime and I prefer European style swords. In my eyes only a coward would hide behind a gun.

Then the Army trained my battles and I to be cowards.
In the end, when someone is trying to harm me or my family, I'd rather have a gun to stop them. Honor be damned, for their safety.

Then at least do that with a revolver or a semi-automatic pistol. Not a fully automatic AKM. And besides it is better to hide during a home invasion and call the police and let the situation be handled by trained professionals. Going after the perpetrator(s) yourself would only increase the chances of a shootout which in turn increases the chances of you or a loved one being killed or injured.

[Big Jim P]

Why? It accomplishes nothing. "Assault Rifles" are the least like weapon to be used in murders.

1. I define assault weapons as being assault rifles, battle rifles, machine guns, submachine guns, any weapon capable of fully automatic or burst fire, handguns with a magazine capacity of more than 10 rounds, and shotguns more powerful than 12 gauge and/or are capable of automatic fire.

2. What practical reason would a person need an assault rifle for?

Your definition is noted and discarded.

[Big Jim P]

No I love liberty but I hate guns. I personally see firearms as a cowards weapon (that's why I prefer swords and my fists).
Also defending liberty (I am assuming you mean from terrorists or enemy nations) is the job of the military and police. Not a rag tag, untrained, out of shape, and poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park.

I personally see swords as a weeboo's weapon (that's why I prefer guns). Also, having sharp objects is a job for chefs and butchers. Not fat, pimply, hentai-fapping man children with no friends.

Not so funny now it's turned on you, eh?

So are you saying that Canada, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, United Kingdom, France, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and so many other free countries are on the verge of becoming oppressive police states because they lack these guys (see image below)



EDIT: By the way I think you should know that vast majority of those "revolutionaries" oppose socialism.

That is almost as bad as represnting black people like this



Seriously, stop lumping all gun owners togather. It's not nice, it's not accurate, and it makes you look like an annoying middle school twit.

Indeed.

@Screensaver: You are new here (?) so I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, but please, educate yourself on the subject before you embarrass yourself anymore.

[Nua Corda]

I personally see swords as a weeboo's weapon (that's why I prefer guns). Also, having sharp objects is a job for chefs and butchers. Not fat, pimply, hentai-fapping man children with no friends.

Not so funny now it's turned on you, eh?



That is almost as bad as represnting black people like this



Seriously, stop lumping all gun owners togather. It's not nice, it's not accurate, and it makes you look like an annoying middle school twit.

First off. I hate anime and I prefer European style swords. In my eyes only a coward would hide behind a gun.

> The point













> Your head

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Newsflash, sweetcheeks; in a fight between a clean fighter and a dirty fighter, the dirty fighter will win every time. The only thing bravery and honor do is get your ass beat. If you're going to fight, you fight to win. Otherwise, don't even bother. You'd know that if you'd ever actually been in a fight.

Then the Army trained my battles and I to be cowards.
In the end, when someone is trying to harm me or my family, I'd rather have a gun to stop them. Honor be damned, for their safety.

Then at least do that with a revolver or a semi-automatic pistol. Not a fully automatic AKM. And besides it is better to hide during a home invasion and call the police and let the situation be handled by trained professionals. Going after the perpetrator(s) yourself would only increase the chances of a shootout which in turn increases the chances of you or a loved one being killed or injured.

I don't think you fully comprehend how rare civilian full autos are, or the extent of their actual use in crime/defense. Furthermore, I see no argument here for AKMs, or any military style weapon, being banned.

[Free Council Communes]

Because, you know, it's never the police and military that oppose freedom. What you call a "poorly organized bunch of beer drinkers from the trailer park", I call members of the revolutionary class that simply need to be roused. Relying on the police and the military to defend freedom is like instituting secret police to protect dissidents.

So are you saying that Canada, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, United Kingdom, France, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and so many other free countries are on the verge of becoming oppressive police states because they lack these guys (see image below)



EDIT: By the way I think you should know that vast majority of those "revolutionaries" oppose socialism.

What you fail to understand is that the masses have not yet been roused to defend socialism. Also, I had to laugh when you threw Australia in because Australia is already a police state under the control of the American imperialists. The Australian government uses government surveillance to the same level as the Stasi did in the DDR, except they do it through the internet. Australia is also trying to introduce a internat censorship bill, and even included the site of an opposition party, the Australian Sex Party. Australia is about as free as China, and I'm sure this never would have happened if the Australian workingman had been armed. And yes, almost every country you listed is at risk of becoming an American puppet police state. And while the sheer ridiculousness of your generalization has already been shown, I would take those guys over the fascistic police any day. Those guys look way better than this guy: I can make generalizations too.

[Big Jim P]

First off. I hate anime and I prefer European style swords. In my eyes only a coward would hide behind a gun.

> The point













> Your head

---

Newsflash, sweetcheeks; in a fight between a clean fighter and a dirty fighter, the dirty fighter will win every time. The only thing bravery and honor do is get your ass beat. If you're going to fight, you fight to win. Otherwise, don't even bother. You'd know that if you'd ever actually been in a fight.

Then at least do that with a revolver or a semi-automatic pistol. Not a fully automatic AKM. And besides it is better to hide during a home invasion and call the police and let the situation be handled by trained professionals. Going after the perpetrator(s) yourself would only increase the chances of a shootout which in turn increases the chances of you or a loved one being killed or injured.

I don't think you fully comprehend how rare civilian full autos are, or the extent of their actual use in crime/defense. Furthermore, I see no argument here for AKMs, or any military style weapon, being banned.

I don't think Screensavers has any concept of firearms beyond what Hollywood/the media are feeding people. Then again, very few do.

Actually, my puppet sense is going nuts, but that is neither here nor there.

[DuThaal Craftworld]

> The point













> Your head

---

Newsflash, sweetcheeks; in a fight between a clean fighter and a dirty fighter, the dirty fighter will win every time. The only thing bravery and honor do is get your ass beat. If you're going to fight, you fight to win. Otherwise, don't even bother. You'd know that if you'd ever actually been in a fight.



I don't think you fully comprehend how rare civilian full autos are, or the extent of their actual use in crime/defense. Furthermore, I see no argument here for AKMs, or any military style weapon, being banned.

I don't think Screensavers has any concept of firearms beyond what Hollywood/the media are feeding people. Then again, very few do.

Actually, my puppet sense is going nuts, but that is neither here nor there.

>Nua Corda
>Puppets
>lolno.
BJP, there are some things that don't happen.
Yes, even NSG has hard limits.

[Big Jim P]

I don't think Screensavers has any concept of firearms beyond what Hollywood/the media are feeding people. Then again, very few do.

Actually, my puppet sense is going nuts, but that is neither here nor there.

>Nua Corda
>Puppets
>lolno.
BJP, there are some things that don't happen.
Yes, even NSG has hard limits.

Not Nua Corda, but I have a feeling that Screensavers is a puppet.

[Screensaver]

>Nua Corda
>Puppets
>lolno.
BJP, there are some things that don't happen.
Yes, even NSG has hard limits.

Not Nua Corda, but I have a feeling that Screensavers is a puppet.

Me a puppet? I am a human being not some doll with strings controlling my arms and legs. But anyway I still fail to see a legitimate reason for a civilian to own a military grade weapon.

[Aracadia Tymurus]

I can't even understand why we are debating this issue in Congress yes assault weapons should be illegal.

[Big Jim P]

Not Nua Corda, but I have a feeling that Screensavers is a puppet.

Me a puppet? I am a human being not some doll with strings controlling my arms and legs. But anyway I still fail to see a legitimate reason for a civilian to own a military grade weapon.

Why not? They are the least likely to be used in murder, therefore, of all the classes of firearms they are the safest.

[Big Jim P]

I can't even understand why we are debating this issue in Congress yes assault weapons should be illegal.

Why? They are the least likely to be used in murder, therefore, of all the classes of firearms they are the safest.

[Big Jim P]

Not Nua Corda, but I have a feeling that Screensavers is a puppet.

Me a puppet? I am a human being not some doll with strings controlling my arms and legs. But anyway I still fail to see a legitimate reason for a civilian to own a military grade weapon.

I find your choice of flag to be very ironic considering your stated position of gun-control.