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Should Assault Weapons be banned?

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No.
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Postby Alyekra » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:46 am

Nua Corda wrote:
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Maybe, but I'm presuming that most pro-gun activists would be against gun control even if it did work.


If it did work, I'd be for it, and I'm certainly pro-gun. My issue with it is that it doesn't, and so I'd prefer to keep my guns.


Well, we respectfully differ. My issue with most gun control is that it punishes law-abiding citizens for the acts of a few criminals.
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Postby Jassysworth 1 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:46 am

BAN THE GUNS!

BAN THEM ALL!

NO MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS!

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:46 am

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Giant Tank Factory wrote:i this thread is about assault rifles I would say they are stupid for home defence. Use a pump shotgun. Much less likely to miss, and much less chance of overpenetration.


The issue isn't logistics, it's principles. Gun control presumes guilt.


Indeed it does. Of course (as you can see from some of the recent posts) gun-owners/pro-gun people are automatically presumed to be mentally ill or criminals.
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Postby Immoren » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:47 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:BAN THE GUNS!

BAN THEM ALL!

NO MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS!

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Postby Alyekra » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:47 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:BAN THE GUNS!

BAN THEM ALL!

NO MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS!


PLEASE DON'T BE SERIOUS!

I BEG OF YOU!

THERE ARE SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT!
(FOR LEGAL REASONS, THAT'S A JOKE)

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:47 am

Alyekra wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
If it did work, I'd be for it, and I'm certainly pro-gun. My issue with it is that it doesn't, and so I'd prefer to keep my guns.


Well, we respectfully differ. My issue with most gun control is that it punishes law-abiding citizens for the acts of a few criminals.


Yes it does.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:48 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:BAN THE GUNS!

BAN THEM ALL!

NO MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS!


How would banning guns prevent school shootings?
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Postby Jassysworth 1 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:50 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:BAN THE GUNS!

BAN THEM ALL!

NO MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS!


How would banning guns prevent school shootings?


once it's enforced no one but the police, military and very VERY FEW OTHER special people will have guns...

you know... kind of like the rest of the civilized world?



When was the last time you heard of a school shooting in Japan or France?
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:51 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
How would banning guns prevent school shootings?


once it's enforced no one but the police, military and very VERY FEW OTHER special people will have guns...

you know... kind of like the rest of the civilized world?



When was the last time you heard of a school shooting in Japan or France?

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Postby Alyekra » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:52 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
How would banning guns prevent school shootings?


once it's enforced no one but the police, military and very VERY FEW OTHER special people will have guns...

you know... kind of like the rest of the civilized world?



When was the last time you heard of a school shooting in Japan or France?


That's the problem, It'd be easier to ban toasters.
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Postby Jassysworth 1 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:52 am

Alyekra wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:BAN THE GUNS!

BAN THEM ALL!

NO MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS!


PLEASE DON'T BE SERIOUS!

I BEG OF YOU!

THERE ARE SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT!


None that can't be solved with patience, determination, new laws and a bit of funding.

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Postby Jassysworth 1 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:53 am

Alyekra wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:
once it's enforced no one but the police, military and very VERY FEW OTHER special people will have guns...

you know... kind of like the rest of the civilized world?



When was the last time you heard of a school shooting in Japan or France?


That's the problem, It'd be easier to ban toasters.


except there's no reason to ban toasters...

You know... you can't shoot up a school with a toaster. But you CAN with a 0.38 revolver or a semi-automatic assault weapon.

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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:53 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
How would banning guns prevent school shootings?


once it's enforced no one but the police, military and very VERY FEW OTHER special people will have guns...

you know... kind of like the rest of the civilized world?



When was the last time you heard of a school shooting in Japan or France?


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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:54 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
How would banning guns prevent school shootings?


once it's enforced no one but the police, military and very VERY FEW OTHER special people will have guns...

you know... kind of like the rest of the civilized world?



When was the last time you heard of a school shooting in Japan or France?


And how will 300 million guns disappear? Magic?
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Postby Alyekra » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:55 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Alyekra wrote:
That's the problem, It'd be easier to ban toasters.


except there's no reason to ban toasters...

You know... you can't shoot up a school with a toaster. But you CAN with a 0.38 revolver or a semi-automatic assault weapon.


I didn't say we should ban toasters, I said it would be easier to empty a country of toasters than it would to empty it of guns.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:55 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Alyekra wrote:
That's the problem, It'd be easier to ban toasters.


except there's no reason to ban toasters...

You know... you can't shoot up a school with a toaster. But you CAN with a 0.38 revolver or a semi-automatic assault weapon.


A semi-auto is not an assault weapon.
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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:56 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Alyekra wrote:
That's the problem, It'd be easier to ban toasters.


except there's no reason to ban toasters...

You know... you can't shoot up a school with a toaster. But you CAN with a 0.38 revolver or a semi-automatic assault weapon.


There's no reason to ban assault weapons. Hammers killed more people than rifles in general, let alone assault weapons.

There's a huge difference between a .38 and an "assault weapon", and even if you ban all teh things right now, there will still be millions of them around and available.
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:56 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:
except there's no reason to ban toasters...

You know... you can't shoot up a school with a toaster. But you CAN with a 0.38 revolver or a semi-automatic assault weapon.


A semi-auto is not an assault weapon.

It all depends upon how you define assault weapon.
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Postby Jassysworth 1 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:56 am

Nua Corda wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:
once it's enforced no one but the police, military and very VERY FEW OTHER special people will have guns...

you know... kind of like the rest of the civilized world?



When was the last time you heard of a school shooting in Japan or France?


L4rn 2 grandfather clause
L4rn 2 "war on drugs"
L4rn 2 geocultural differences
L4rn 2 regulation


We need to GET RID of the grandfather clause if we are really going to get rid of the guns...

We need to tighten the war on drugs as well as start a war on guns.

We need to change the geocultural differences over several years so that America can be saved from gun violence...

AND we can START with regulations but our ultimate goal should be to get rid of the guns from almost all civilians.

How's that?

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:57 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Alyekra wrote:
PLEASE DON'T BE SERIOUS!

I BEG OF YOU!

THERE ARE SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT!


None that can't be solved with patience, determination, new laws and a bit of funding.


It can also be solved with a bit of patience, training, enforcing the laws we already have and a bit of funding.
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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:57 am

Alyekra wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:
except there's no reason to ban toasters...

You know... you can't shoot up a school with a toaster. But you CAN with a 0.38 revolver or a semi-automatic assault weapon.


I didn't say we should ban toasters, I said it would be easier to empty a country of toasters than it would to empty it of guns.


Though there's about as much reason to.

Big Jim P wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:
once it's enforced no one but the police, military and very VERY FEW OTHER special people will have guns...

you know... kind of like the rest of the civilized world?



When was the last time you heard of a school shooting in Japan or France?


And how will 300 million guns disappear? Magic?


They'll just evaporate into rainbows and unicorn piss.
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Postby Jassysworth 1 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:57 am

Nua Corda wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:
except there's no reason to ban toasters...

You know... you can't shoot up a school with a toaster. But you CAN with a 0.38 revolver or a semi-automatic assault weapon.


There's no reason to ban assault weapons. Hammers killed more people than rifles in general, let alone assault weapons.

There's a huge difference between a .38 and an "assault weapon", and even if you ban all teh things right now, there will still be millions of them around and available.


Which is why we should ban them and start confiscating them.... AT ONCE before they further proliferate.

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Postby Alyekra » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:57 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
There's no reason to ban assault weapons. Hammers killed more people than rifles in general, let alone assault weapons.

There's a huge difference between a .38 and an "assault weapon", and even if you ban all teh things right now, there will still be millions of them around and available.


Which is why we should ban them and start confiscating them.... AT ONCE before they further proliferate.



Why should we punish law-abiding citizens for the actions of a few criminals?
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Postby Kistan » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:58 am

1) The problem is that the Obama Administration says 'assault weapons', but upon research, it would actually get rid of EVERYTHING but revolvers and Coach Guns(the dual-barreled shotguns). That means anything with a magazine-gone.

2) It won't stop criminals like they say it will. If people are forced to give up their guns, the only ones who will still have them are the CRIMINALS, who will hide them. If you take a half an hour to look around on the internet, Australia and parts of Europe banned some types of guns. The result?


UP TO 40% MORE GUN MURDERS.

Granted, gun accidents went away, but still.... talk about a failed gov't plan.
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