Should Assault Weapons be banned?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

No.
Why.

It's not even a correctly applied term.

[Divair]

So which is it? Die fighting or die being oppressed?

Be oppressed. Small chance of living. Better than absolutely nothing.

[Republica Newland]

This whole "Assault rifles" gig has got to be the biggest hoax in recent American history.

[Mexicanada]

The term seems to be extremely loose and used selectively by both sides for their own benefit.

Just ban guns full stop.

That would be extremely difficult in the US, because 44 states have the right to bear arms in their state constitutions, and the US Constitution also protects that right. Since you would need at least 38 states to ratify a repeal of the Second Amendment, it isn't likely to happen.

GOT HIM

[Alekera]

So which is it? Die fighting or die being oppressed?

Be oppressed. Small chance of living. Better than absolutely nothing.

Ok, ill leave it at. You'd rather be slave...

[Republica Newland]

I'd say a Libyan TANK (whatever the fuck they are using,I'm presuming slightly (or more) outdated Soviet weaponry) is comparable to an American "fucking APC".

So.. where do you plan on getting a few dozen planes to take out the USAF and then the tanks on the ground?

You've still failed to bring up a method of determining who is and who isn't rebelling,because target acquisition is fucking easy when dealing with your own fucking country full of civilians,amirite?

Tyrannical government, remember? Why would they care?

They mightn't but I can't say the same for the military.

[Divair]

They mightn't but I can't say the same for the military.

So we're switching scenarios now?

[Jormengand]

Despite their stupid definition, yes. Along with all other guns. If you have a legitimate use for them, get a permit.

[Republica Newland]

The term seems to be extremely loose and used selectively by both sides for their own benefit.

Just ban guns full stop.

Gold Medal Debating

[Grinning Dragon]

It depends. What is an "assault weapon"?

Automatic weapons? Yes.
Legitimately "military-grade" weapons? Probably.
Standard civilian-grade rifles that happen to resemble military arms? No.

An assault weapon is now a full auto? I thought assault rifle was the moniker given to full autos?
Isn't the very nature of these so called assault weapons that are being debated, are they not semi auto rifles?

[Divair]

Ok, ill leave it at. You'd rather be slave...

Yes, I'd rather live in slavery than die. Maybe I'm not religious or theistic enough to think that dying is better than not dying.

[Immoren]

Because I was bottom paged.

Well, since an M2A2 isn't a vehicle capable of operating itself, I think it would end up being a really boring fight.

Of course I meant it to have crew. You are cheeky one, aren't you darling.

[The united imperial sector]

Banning assault wepons won't stop gun violence criminals can just buy them illegaly anyway the only thing it would do is make the law abiding citizens more vunarable to them.

Why would I bother saying something when someone's already said it. Thatnk you for bringing some sense to the argument.

Many thanks glad to see senseable people out there still.

[Republica Newland]

They mightn't but I can't say the same for the military.

So we're switching scenarios now?

We're playing cat and mouse apparently. So in scenario A,why not have guns to (at least attempt to) take down the Govt? In scenario B,why not have guns to ensure that happens as fast as possible?

[Divair]

We're playing cat and mouse apparently. So in scenario A,why not have guns to (at least attempt to) take down the Govt?

Because rifles alone do not stop a military.

In scenario B,why not have guns to ensure that happens as fast as possible?

So instead of letting the military do its job properly to overthrow the tyrannical government, we get in the way, fuck up their organization, and put the lives of civilians at risk.

Brilliant idea.

[Maineiacs]

How many gun deaths does the UK have annually, then compare it to the US. End of point.

What a horrible comparison. That's like comparing deaths in China to deaths in Vermont. Try finding a statistic that isn't a number based on size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita

[Divair]

What a horrible comparison. That's like comparing deaths in China to deaths in Vermont. Try finding a statistic that isn't a number based on size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita

That's better.

[Republica Newland]

We're playing cat and mouse apparently. So in scenario A,why not have guns to (at least attempt to) take down the Govt?

Because rifles alone do not stop a military.

In scenario B,why not have guns to ensure that happens as fast as possible?

So instead of letting the military do its job properly to overthrow the tyrannical government, we get in the way, fuck up their organization, and put the lives of civilians at risk.

Brilliant idea.

That actually worked wonders for the Arabs, although they've got a bit to go in Syria.

[Grinning Dragon]

We're playing cat and mouse apparently. So in scenario A,why not have guns to (at least attempt to) take down the Govt?

Because rifles alone do not stop a military.

In scenario B,why not have guns to ensure that happens as fast as possible?

So instead of letting the military do its job properly to overthrow the tyrannical government, we get in the way, fuck up their organization, and put the lives of civilians at risk.

Brilliant idea.

So far I am with you Divair, but what if a tyrannical govt brought in outside help? Surely (and no I am not calling you Shirley ) having the help of an armed populace would be beneficial.

[Cosara]

Ok, ill leave it at. You'd rather be slave...

Yes, I'd rather live in slavery than die. Maybe I'm not religious or theistic enough to think that dying is better than not dying.

So you're saying that spending the rest of your life slaving away in a FEMA Death Camp is better than dying for Liberty.

[Divair]

That actually worked wonders for the Arabs, although they've got a bit to go in Syria.

Do.. Do you even read what I post? The Libyan rebels had the backing of the entire West. They received a ton of weapons and air support from the West. Where do you plan on finding a country that's even more militaristic than the USA to supply the American rebels and to beat the USAF?

[Divair]

So you're saying that spending the rest of your life slaving away in a FEMA Death Camp is better than dying for Liberty.

Absolutely. As an atheist, life is better than death. Death is nothing. Nothing is the absolute worst state possible.

[Divair]

So far I am with you Divair, but what if a tyrannical govt brought in outside help? Surely (and no I am not calling you Shirley ) having the help of an armed populace would be beneficial.

Which military would offer support to the theoretical tyrannical government? And which military could beat the US military?

[Alekera]

So you're saying that spending the rest of your life slaving away in a FEMA Death Camp is better than dying for Liberty.

Absolutely. As an atheist, life is better than death. Death is nothing. Nothing is the absolute worst state possible.

The concentration camp survivors beg to differ...

[Divair]

The concentration camp survivors beg to differ...

Many of them went on to live long, happy lives with families. Why would I surrender that opportunity to die for nothing?