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Postby Nadkor » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:37 am

Yes, of course. Why wouldn't I?
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:42 am

Warinemachine wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:indeed. otherwise i might kiss a transwoman and that might make me gay and i don't wanna be gay guys

yes most conservatives don't.

Because homosexuality/transsexuality is a disease that makes one less of a man and which can be spread through interaction with them. *roll*
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:42 am

Choronzon wrote:
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If you haven't done so already, you might want to read the post I've quoted below.



I'm glad you reposted that.


I see it as a public service to do so.
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Postby Grad Duchy of Luxembourg » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:43 am

Grenartia wrote:
Choronzon wrote:
I'm glad you reposted that.


I see it as a public service to do so.

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Postby Grenartia » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:46 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:yes most conservatives don't.

Because homosexuality is a disease that makes one less of a man and which can be spread through interaction with them. *roll*


Implying that being transgender has anything to do with homosexuality.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:47 am

Grenartia wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Because homosexuality is a disease that makes one less of a man and which can be spread through interaction with them. *roll*

Implying that being transgender has anything to do with homosexuality.

True, IIRC if a guy is dating a MtF, it's still technically a hetro relationship.
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Postby Volco » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:48 am

I would.

If I have a good connection with he/she, and I enjoy his/her company, I would.
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Postby Cameroi » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:48 am

what is "date"? people should have to make appointments to be with each other? what kind of nonsense is that?
is that anything like hang out with? or work on projects together with?
i suppose "date" as it is generally used as a verb, denotes what was once refered to as "courtship".

well personally, i find anything human less interesting then being creative with trains and computers and exploring wilderness and meeting all the little furry creatures who live there.
so for me, the question is remote. why should i care what's between anyone's legs, unless they were interested in crawling into bed with me?

as i've said in other contexts; trans-species would be far more interesting.
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Postby Person012345 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:49 am

Lantianguo wrote:Do you have any idea what it's like to live in a society where if people know who or what you are, you risk ostracisation at least and assault or murder at worst?

I know exactly what that's like. Although I've become more "who the fuck cares" in my orientation as of late.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:50 am

Huh...with me it's more that I won't date anyone who *isn't* transgender. I'm not sure anyone who isn't could really "get" me.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:56 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:Scary. Also a good reason for divorce. That is a HUGE secret your spouse kept from you. Transgender people should be honest before any kissing/intimate contact is made in the relationship (first date would be best) for obvious reasons.

They should be honest with romantic partners when they feel safe with sharing personal information that, no word of a lie, could well get them beaten, raped, murdered, or all of the above.


Choronzon wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Scary. Also a good reason for divorce. That is a HUGE secret your spouse kept from you. Transgender people should be honest before any kissing/intimate contact is made in the relationship (first date would be best) for obvious reasons.

Because they owe you all their secrets on a first date.

Not all of them. Only the ones about their sex organs. That's why I have to wear an armband indicating that I have a foreskin. I'd show you a picture, but it wouldn't be PG-13.


Souseiseki wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Scary. Also a good reason for divorce. That is a HUGE secret your spouse kept from you. Transgender people should be honest before any kissing/intimate contact is made in the relationship (first date would be best) for obvious reasons.

indeed. otherwise i might kiss a transwoman and that might make me gay and i don't wanna be gay guys

It's too late Sous. Obama has decreed that you must be gay. Find a man and gay it up with him. And send the federal government proof, to keep the FBI away.


Dumb Ideologies wrote:Huh...with me it's more that I won't date anyone who *isn't* transgender. I'm not sure anyone who isn't could really "get" me.

You're a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, topped with cat ears.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:59 am

Ifreann wrote:You're a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, topped with cat ears.


Miaow.

*licks*

Wait...sorry, I just had F7 flashbacks. You weren't there man, you weren't there!
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:04 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, topped with cat ears.


Miaow.

*licks*

I have no milk for you, kitty.

Wait...sorry, I just had F7 flashbacks. You weren't there man, you weren't there!

I mostly wasn't, yeah.

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Postby Rocopurr » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:07 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:Scary. Also a good reason for divorce. That is a HUGE secret your spouse kept from you. Transgender people should be honest before any kissing/intimate contact is made in the relationship (first date would be best) for obvious reasons.

So, if you'd been in a healthy, loving marriage for 10 years you'd divorce them just because they didn't tell you they were transgender? Pardon my ignorance, but that doesn't come off to me a logical. Sure, I can see why you'd want to know something that big, but divorce is taking it a bit too far.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:08 am

Rocopurr wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Scary. Also a good reason for divorce. That is a HUGE secret your spouse kept from you. Transgender people should be honest before any kissing/intimate contact is made in the relationship (first date would be best) for obvious reasons.

So, if you'd been in a healthy, loving marriage for 10 years you'd divorce them just because they didn't tell you they were transgender? Pardon my ignorance, but that doesn't come off to me a logical. Sure, I can see why you'd want to know something that big, but divorce is taking it a bit too far.


Especially if they've only recently realized their gender identity.
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Postby Grad Duchy of Luxembourg » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:28 am

Rocopurr wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Scary. Also a good reason for divorce. That is a HUGE secret your spouse kept from you. Transgender people should be honest before any kissing/intimate contact is made in the relationship (first date would be best) for obvious reasons.

So, if you'd been in a healthy, loving marriage for 10 years you'd divorce them just because they didn't tell you they were transgender? Pardon my ignorance, but that doesn't come off to me a logical. Sure, I can see why you'd want to know something that big, but divorce is taking it a bit too far.

Absolutely agreed. I wonder what makes him so sure of his response when he finds out. I, for one, wouldn't be so sure.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:29 am

Calimera II wrote:No. It's a male in a identity crisis.


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Postby Person012345 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:30 am

Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:So, if you'd been in a healthy, loving marriage for 10 years you'd divorce them just because they didn't tell you they were transgender? Pardon my ignorance, but that doesn't come off to me a logical. Sure, I can see why you'd want to know something that big, but divorce is taking it a bit too far.

Absolutely agreed. I wonder what makes him so sure of his response when he finds out. I, for one, wouldn't be so sure.

To be fair, he didn't even say that he would divorce them, merely that he considers it to be legitimate reason for divorce. I'm not sure that lets you discern that he is sure he would divorce them if it happened to him.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:33 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Scary. Also a good reason for divorce. That is a HUGE secret your spouse kept from you. Transgender people should be honest before any kissing/intimate contact is made in the relationship (first date would be best) for obvious reasons.

indeed. otherwise i might kiss a transwoman and that might make me gay and i don't wanna be gay guys


What if a man was really bothered and killed himself because he felt that way? It would personally sicken me (although I would not kill myself). It is very unfair to the other person.

A tatoo should be required (a T on the forehead which could be covered with bangs) if somebody wishes for that surgery. This might decrease people wishing to get the surgery and decrease transgenders. It will also decrease mistaken relationship gender misunderstandings.

Transgenders will not get murdered if they tell before any physical actions have taken place. Laughed at, yes but not murdered. I would be happier if the shemale told me before I kissed it than after.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:35 am

Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:So, if you'd been in a healthy, loving marriage for 10 years you'd divorce them just because they didn't tell you they were transgender? Pardon my ignorance, but that doesn't come off to me a logical. Sure, I can see why you'd want to know something that big, but divorce is taking it a bit too far.

Absolutely agreed. I wonder what makes him so sure of his response when he finds out. I, for one, wouldn't be so sure.


These cases are on talk shows so I had the chance to ask myself how I would react. It would be very hurtful, especally if I had sex with it and was married.
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Postby Choronzon » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:36 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:What if a man was really bothered and killed himself because he felt that way?

Then he's pathetic.
Transgenders will not get murdered if they tell before any physical actions have taken place. Laughed at, yes but not murdered.

I assure you, you are 100% wrong.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:37 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:indeed. otherwise i might kiss a transwoman and that might make me gay and i don't wanna be gay guys


What if a man was really bothered and killed himself because he felt that way? It would personally sicken me (although I would not kill myself). It is very unfair to the other person.

A tatoo should be required (a T on the forehead which could be covered with bangs) if somebody wishes for that surgery. This might decrease people wishing to get the surgery and decrease transgenders. It will also decrease mistaken relationship gender misunderstandings.

Transgenders will not get murdered if they tell before any physical actions have taken place. Laughed at, yes but not murdered. I would be happier if the shemale told me before I kissed it than after.


Are you for real? I'm just not sure if we should be replying seriously to this or just patting you on the back for the funny.
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Postby Oterro » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:38 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:What if a man was really bothered and killed himself because he felt that way?

what if your shitposts made someone kill themselves

what im saying is you should be shot.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:40 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:What if a man was really bothered and killed himself because he felt that way? It would personally sicken me (although I would not kill myself). It is very unfair to the other person.


it'd kinda suck but i'm not sure why you'd kill yourself for being attracted to femininity because the lips they have the Y

A tatoo should be required (a T on the forehead which could be covered with bangs) if somebody wishes for that surgery. This might decrease people wishing to get the surgery and decrease transgenders. It will also decrease mistaken relationship gender misunderstandings.


will it be be a legal requirement

what's the point in branding them if they can just hide it!

Transgenders will not get murdered if they tell before any physical actions have taken place. Laughed at, yes but not murdered.


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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:41 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:indeed. otherwise i might kiss a transwoman and that might make me gay and i don't wanna be gay guys


What if a man was really bothered and killed himself because he felt that way? It would personally sicken me (although I would not kill myself). It is very unfair to the other person.

A tatoo should be required (a T on the forehead which could be covered with bangs) if somebody wishes for that surgery. This might decrease people wishing to get the surgery and decrease transgenders. It will also decrease mistaken relationship gender misunderstandings.

Transgenders will not get murdered if they tell before any physical actions have taken place. Laughed at, yes but not murdered. I would be happier if the shemale told me before I kissed it than after.


I've yet to see a post of yours that isn't somewhere between midly offensive and utterly insane.
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