Would you date a transgender?

[Aussie Republic]

Hell No!
No!
Never!
But if you're the type who would, I'm not discouraging you

[Desperate Measures]

Like which one was born male?

Seeing as the first one is 201111209-satohtrans-04.jpg, imma guess her.

It looks like the person with the tranny sense isn't going to respond, so I'll reveal. They both were born male.

[Grenartia]

You can.

No, you can't. Sex is a genetic characteristic; no amount of cosmetic surgery and hormone therapy will change it.

Aside from chromosomes, you're wrong. But, then again, of what relevance to social interactions such as dating are chromosomes? I mean, when there's things like Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome that allow a woman to be born (and develop, save for certain reproductive aspects) phenotypically female, and yet have XY chromosomes, do they (chromosomes) really fucking matter in a social context?

[Ifreann]

Seeing as the first one is 201111209-satohtrans-04.jpg, imma guess her.

It looks like the person with the tranny sense isn't going to respond, so I'll reveal. They both were born male.

Damn, I was gonna guess both and all before I noticed the filename.


Also a good rule of thumb, btw.

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Hell No!
No!
Never!
But if you're the type who would, I'm not discouraging you

It's weird that you're so emphatic with your no.

[Auralia]

No, you can't. Sex is a genetic characteristic; no amount of cosmetic surgery and hormone therapy will change it.

You actually check the chromosomes of every person you consider dating and won't go out with them if they're not a perfect XX/XY in line with their appearance?

If I were to date someone, I would assume that they are who they appear to be, and would expect them to tell me if they are not.

[Desperate Measures]

It looks like the person with the tranny sense isn't going to respond, so I'll reveal. They both were born male.

Damn, I was gonna guess both and all before I noticed the filename.


Also a good rule of thumb, btw.

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Hell No!
No!
Never!
But if you're the type who would, I'm not discouraging you

It's weird that you're so emphatic with your no.

I was tricksy!

[Camelza]

Seeing as the first one is 201111209-satohtrans-04.jpg, imma guess her.

It looks like the person with the tranny sense isn't going to respond, so I'll reveal. They both were born male.

Damn, my new superpower proved to be useless.

[Grenartia]

Hell No!
No!
Never!
But if you're the type who would, I'm not discouraging you

You know, a simple, respectful "no", along with an explanation of why would suffice.

Seeing as the first one is 201111209-satohtrans-04.jpg, imma guess her.

It looks like the person with the tranny sense isn't going to respond, so I'll reveal. They both were born male.

1/2 ain't bad.

[Souseiseki]

You actually check the chromosomes of every person you consider dating and won't go out with them if they're not a perfect XX/XY in line with their appearance?

If I were to date someone, I would assume that they are who they appear to be, and would expect them to tell me if they are not.

i had to get my nose fixed when i was 2 because i smashed it right up please don't divorce me

[Ifreann]

No, you can't. Sex is a genetic characteristic; no amount of cosmetic surgery and hormone therapy will change it.

Aside from chromosomes, you're wrong. But, then again, of what relevance to social interactions such as dating are chromosomes? I mean, when there's things like Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome that allow a woman to be born (and develop, save for certain reproductive aspects) phenotypically female, and yet have XY chromosomes, do they (chromosomes) really fucking matter in a social context?

Not to defend the anti-trans folks, but things like CAIS or what have you can be relevant to romantic relationships because to some people, having kids with their significant other is an important consideration.

[Auralia]

No, you can't. Sex is a genetic characteristic; no amount of cosmetic surgery and hormone therapy will change it.

Aside from chromosomes, you're wrong. But, then again, of what relevance to social interactions such as dating are chromosomes? I mean, when there's things like Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome that allow a woman to be born (and develop, save for certain reproductive aspects) phenotypically female, and yet have XY chromosomes, do they (chromosomes) really fucking matter in a social context?

I'll admit I don't know where I stand on corner cases like CAIS. But as a general rule, yes, chromosomes do matter.

[Grenartia]

Aside from chromosomes, you're wrong. But, then again, of what relevance to social interactions such as dating are chromosomes? I mean, when there's things like Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome that allow a woman to be born (and develop, save for certain reproductive aspects) phenotypically female, and yet have XY chromosomes, do they (chromosomes) really fucking matter in a social context?

Not to defend the anti-trans folks, but things like CAIS or what have you can be relevant to romantic relationships because to some people, having kids with their significant other is an important consideration.

I know. But I'd consider that more of a medical context than a social one.

[Camelza]

Not to defend the anti-trans folks, but things like CAIS or what have you can be relevant to romantic relationships because to some people, having kids with their significant other is an important consideration.

I know. But I'd consider that more of a medical context than a social one.

I don't know, so I'll have to ask:
Can CAIS persons give birth after surgery?

[New Kriegizstan]

Absolutely not.

[Grenartia]

Aside from chromosomes, you're wrong. But, then again, of what relevance to social interactions such as dating are chromosomes? I mean, when there's things like Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome that allow a woman to be born (and develop, save for certain reproductive aspects) phenotypically female, and yet have XY chromosomes, do they (chromosomes) really fucking matter in a social context?

I'll admit I don't know where I stand on corner cases like CAIS. But as a general rule, yes, chromosomes do matter.

Why? Its not like XY chromosomes put up some sort of force field that prevents any meaningful social interaction. Also, what makes CAIS women any different than post-transition transwomen?

[New Matawan]

if we both had a mutual interest in each other, I don't see any reason not to.

[Grenartia]

I know. But I'd consider that more of a medical context than a social one.

I don't know, so I'll have to ask:
Can CAIS persons give birth after surgery?

Well, considering that CAIS women do not (to my knowledge, at least) have the prerequisite organs for conceiving and carrying children to term, I wouldn't think so.

Absolutely not.

Care to explain why?

[Ifreann]

Not to defend the anti-trans folks, but things like CAIS or what have you can be relevant to romantic relationships because to some people, having kids with their significant other is an important consideration.

I know. But I'd consider that more of a medical context than a social one.

I suppose the fact of kids not being on the table for one person matters more than exactly why.

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I know. But I'd consider that more of a medical context than a social one.

I don't know, so I'll have to ask:
Can CAIS persons give birth after surgery?

I would doubt it. I'm not really au fait with this kind of thing, but to the best of my knowledge one can't surgically create a functioning uterus.

[Grenartia]

I know. But I'd consider that more of a medical context than a social one.

I suppose the fact of kids not being on the table for one person matters more than exactly why.

True, but this is one of the reasons why we have surrogacy and in-vitro fertilization (for those who feel the need to pass on their genetic material).

[Camelza]

I know. But I'd consider that more of a medical context than a social one.

I suppose the fact of kids not being on the table for one person matters more than exactly why.

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I don't know, so I'll have to ask:
Can CAIS persons give birth after surgery?

I would doubt it. I'm not really au fait with this kind of thing, but to the best of my knowledge one can't surgically create a functioning uterus.

Then there is a small problem, which of course can be overcomed by a hypothetical couple of a CAIS person and another individual if there is trust and understanding between them.

[GraySoap]

I'd say no. I'm generally against plastic surgery and altering your appearance beyond simple things such as cutting your hair. I'll make small exceptions from time to time.

[Grenartia]

I'd say no. I'm generally against plastic surgery and altering your appearance beyond simple things such as cutting your hair. I'll make small exceptions from time to time.

Sex reassignment surgery is necessary for those individuals who get it. Not 'elective', not 'cosmetic', contrary to what you may have been told or otherwise led to believe.

[Ifreann]

I'd say no. I'm generally against plastic surgery and altering your appearance beyond simple things such as cutting your hair. I'll make small exceptions from time to time.

Sex reassignment surgery is necessary for those individuals who get it. Not 'elective', not 'cosmetic', contrary to what you may have been told or otherwise led to believe.

And those who don't get SRS can massively change their appearance with hormones, which, as I've previously posited, are basically witchcraft.

[Grenartia]

Sex reassignment surgery is necessary for those individuals who get it. Not 'elective', not 'cosmetic', contrary to what you may have been told or otherwise led to believe.

And those who don't get SRS can massively change their appearance with hormones, which, as I've previously posited, are basically witchcraft.

Indeed. I've seen those pictures, too. It is witchcraft. Probably explains why so many fundies are anti-transgender people.

[Person012345]

Why are japanese trannys always so hot?