The Steel Magnolia wrote:Grenartia wrote:
True, but if Rere wants observed scientific justifications for gender not being sex, I figured that was as good as anything else I knew of.
True, but it doesn't actually serve our interests in the long run. Indeed, it reinforces that whole ideal of biological justification.
What'd be better is any one of the oh, I don't know, dozens of studies on trans* people or the fact that gender =/= is kind of an accepted fact... basically everywhere.
Admittedly.
The Steel Magnolia wrote:Rereumrari wrote:It makes sense. I'm not denying that people who undergo sex-changes are mentally normal, but I don't think surgery is the best way to go to help them. This is the only field I know of where plastic surgery is the cure for a mental problem and I find it appalling that mental therapy isn't even considered to help people come to terms with how they view themselves.
Where's Sous' list of WPATH sources.
I have it pulled up. Hold on, its in a locked thread, so it'll take me a few to post.
EDIT: Here it is.
Souseiseki wrote:"WPATH standards of care posted:
“Sex reassignment is not “experimental”, “investigative”, “elective”, “cosmetic”, or optional in any meaningful sense. It constitutes very effective and appropriate treatment for transsexualism or profound GID.”
Pfallin, 1993 posted:
“In over 80 qualitatively different case studies and reviews from 12 countries, it has been demonstrated during the last 30 years that the treatment that includes the whole process of gender reassignment is effective.”
GIRES (2006) "Atypical gender development - A review" posted:
“The hormonal, surgical and psychological procedures of transition reduce the dissonance between the psychological identification as male or female, on the one hand, and the phenotype and associated gender role on the other. Such
treatments are regarded as highly successful.”
Lawrence, 2002 posted:
2002 Lawrence study of MtF patients gives 3% of 232 participants giving quality of life after SRS as either “unchanged” or “worsened” - Only 1 participant responded with “worsened”, 7 with “unchanged”. “No participants reported consistent Regret"
Lawrence, 2002 "Factors associated with satisfaction or regret following male-to-female SRS" posted:
“Even patients who develop severe surgical complications seldom regret having undergone surgery. The importance of surgery can be appreciated by the repeated finding that quality of surgical results is one of the best predictors of the overall outcome of sex reassignment”
In short, this is seen as one of the most effective treatment for trans people and it literally saves lives. I also have a lot of data on the increased risk of suicidality of trans people who are not allowed access to treatment, and data on how GID is an isolated diagnosis - It is not a sign of delusions or other severe mental illness. Cole et al (1997) study into co-morbidity will provide this data, if you want to take a look."
still shamelessly stolen from noreaus
Actually, homosexuality was proclaimed not to be a mental illness because it isn't innately harmful. So much for your psychology major.
What about the ovaries?
). At this point just want a woman that wouldn't find me too repulsive. 
