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Would you date a transgender?

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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:18 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
Thats my point the part of you that wants kids is the genetic reproduction telling you not to go there through your subconscious mind.

No, this wasn't about your "kids" point. This was about you being weirded out by it. If you want to drop that and go back to the only reason being kids, then fine.


Well having sex with a man with an inside out penis and breasts is a Little bit of a strange concept at first.

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Postby Mont Vol » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:19 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Mont Vol wrote:sheep aren't humans.


thats the point you would not know because she looked like a woman, but if you did a test and found out she was a sheep what would you do?

no that isn't the point, are you stupid
sheep are not humans.
a sheep cannot become a human woman, as not only is it an entirely different species therefore lacking the ability to process female human hormones, it also lacks the ability to consent.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:20 pm

Imperiatom wrote:inside out penis

> ...

> ...

> pretty sure that's not a thing
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Postby Mont Vol » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:20 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:inside out penis

> ...

> ...

> pretty sure that's not a thing

this.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:21 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Mont Vol wrote:sheep aren't humans.


thats the point you would not know because she looked like a woman, but if you did a test and found out she was a sheep what would you do?

I wouldn't be that baahhthered.
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Postby Mont Vol » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:22 pm

and yes, if it turned out this sheep HAD consented and been turned into a woman somehow, then i would date her.
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:22 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Imperiatom wrote: :lol: hahah no. But if you examined "her" DNA it would come back as male, the truth cant be irrational

So by your reasoning you would have sex with a sheep if it had been to a hospital and changed into a woman?

How is her conversational ability? That could make or break the deal.


it would be BAA-baric. :bow:

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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:23 pm

There should be a second question about dating sheep, I'm noticing a disturbing trend.
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Postby Xathranaar » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:23 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Mont Vol wrote:sheep aren't humans.


thats the point you would not know because she looked like a woman, but if you did a test and found out she was a sheep what would you do?

Be very impressed that a sheep managed to use human speech and copy human mannerisms.

At this point we're not talking about a sheep anymore. We're talking about a human brain that somehow found its way into a sheep body, that then underwent cosmetic surgery to appear more human.
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Postby Person012345 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:23 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:So you're attracted not to how someone looks, or their personality, or anything. You're attracted to their DNA? Their sexy, sexy DNA?

I call BS.

No I'm absolutely attracted to those things DNA is however an absolute prerequisite.

Why?

(Hint: Irrational emotions)

If you're not attracted to the DNA, then there is no logical reason to stop being attracted to her once you find the DNA code is different than you assumed. The fact that it's a "prerequisite" is just an emotional thing that has no good logical base. I'm not saying that it would be illogical for you to dump her. If you were suddenly no longer attracted, then it would be logical to do that. What I'm saying is that the fact that you're no longer attracted to her would not be rational. It's not like, at any point she changes from the person you loved. All that changes is your perception of her, and it's based on a practical irrelevancy.

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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:24 pm

Mont Vol wrote:
Arglorand wrote:> ...

> ...

> pretty sure that's not a thing

this.


was for dramatic effect

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Postby Person012345 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:25 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
thats the point you would not know because she looked like a woman, but if you did a test and found out she was a sheep what would you do?

Be very impressed that a sheep managed to use human speech and copy human mannerisms.

At this point we're not talking about a sheep anymore. We're talking about a human brain that somehow found its way into a sheep body, that then underwent cosmetic surgery to appear more human.

Appear totally human. If she still grew wool or had hooves, that would be a legitimate turn off.

Edit: Well, not hooves I don't think, whatever sheep feet are called.
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Postby Pillea » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:25 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:No I'm absolutely attracted to those things DNA is however an absolute prerequisite.

Why?

(Hint: Irrational emotions)

If you're not attracted to the DNA, then there is no logical reason to stop being attracted to her once you find the DNA code is different than you assumed. The fact that it's a "prerequisite" is just an emotional thing that has no good logical base. I'm not saying that it would be illogical for you to dump her. If you were suddenly no longer attracted, then it would be logical to do that. What I'm saying is that the fact that you're no longer attracted to her would not be rational. It's not like, at any point she changes from the person you loved. All that changes is your perception of her, and it's based on a practical irrelevancy.


*GASP* After these 15 weeks of wondrous dates and such I've discovered your DNA contains a predisposition towards Widow's Peaks! I can no longer find myself attracted to you, your DNA is hideous to me. /sarcasm
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:25 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:No I'm absolutely attracted to those things DNA is however an absolute prerequisite.

Why?

(Hint: Irrational emotions)

If you're not attracted to the DNA, then there is no logical reason to stop being attracted to her once you find the DNA code is different than you assumed. The fact that it's a "prerequisite" is just an emotional thing that has no good logical base. I'm not saying that it would be illogical for you to dump her. If you were suddenly no longer attracted, then it would be logical to do that. What I'm saying is that the fact that you're no longer attracted to her would not be rational. It's not like, at any point she changes from the person you loved. All that changes is your perception of her, and it's based on a practical irrelevancy.

I consider it completely rational. I don't find males attractive and I consider her male.
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Postby Tsuntion » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:26 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Mont Vol wrote:this.


was for dramatic effect


Too many people actually think that's the case, though, which is why people took it in seriousness.
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:26 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
thats the point you would not know because she looked like a woman, but if you did a test and found out she was a sheep what would you do?

Be very impressed that a sheep managed to use human speech and copy human mannerisms.

At this point we're not talking about a sheep anymore. We're talking about a human brain that somehow found its way into a sheep body, that then underwent cosmetic surgery to appear more human.


Pretty much, but then we evolved the glands that allow us to speak so a sheep might in the future.

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Postby Person012345 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:27 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Why?

(Hint: Irrational emotions)

If you're not attracted to the DNA, then there is no logical reason to stop being attracted to her once you find the DNA code is different than you assumed. The fact that it's a "prerequisite" is just an emotional thing that has no good logical base. I'm not saying that it would be illogical for you to dump her. If you were suddenly no longer attracted, then it would be logical to do that. What I'm saying is that the fact that you're no longer attracted to her would not be rational. It's not like, at any point she changes from the person you loved. All that changes is your perception of her, and it's based on a practical irrelevancy.

I consider it completely rational. I don't find males attractive and I consider her male.

The blanket statement "I don't find males attractive" is not based on any rational criteria. It's based on the man-cooties. If you were saying that you didn't find male traits attractive or something of the sort then fine. But again, you're basing it purely on practical irrlevancies, their genetic makeup.
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Postby Mont Vol » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:27 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Mont Vol wrote:this.


was for dramatic effect

for you it's dramatic effect and for transgender women it's dehumanisation ^_^
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:27 pm

Tsuntion wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
was for dramatic effect


Too many people actually think that's the case, though, which is why people took it in seriousness.


I know thats why i could not resit the stereotype cheapshot.

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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:28 pm

Mont Vol wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
was for dramatic effect

for you it's dramatic effect and for transgender women it's dehumanisation ^_^


What about transgender sheep?

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Postby Xathranaar » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:28 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:Be very impressed that a sheep managed to use human speech and copy human mannerisms.

At this point we're not talking about a sheep anymore. We're talking about a human brain that somehow found its way into a sheep body, that then underwent cosmetic surgery to appear more human.

Appear totally human. If she still grew wool or had hooves, that would be a legitimate turn off.

Edit: Well, not hooves I don't think, whatever sheep feet are called.

Wouldn't that just be a warm, fuzzy draenei?
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:29 pm

Person012345 wrote:The blanket statement "I don't find males attractive" is not based on any rational criteria. It's based on the man-cooties.

So sexuality is based around cooties?
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Postby Person012345 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:29 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Person012345 wrote:The blanket statement "I don't find males attractive" is not based on any rational criteria. It's based on the man-cooties.

So sexuality is based around cooties?

Sexuality isn't based on DNA.

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Postby Pillea » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:29 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:Be very impressed that a sheep managed to use human speech and copy human mannerisms.

At this point we're not talking about a sheep anymore. We're talking about a human brain that somehow found its way into a sheep body, that then underwent cosmetic surgery to appear more human.


Pretty much, but then we evolved the glands that allow us to speak so a sheep might in the future.


I think you mean muscles.... not glands. The lungs and glottis aren't glands. Nor is the tongue/teeth.
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Postby Mont Vol » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:30 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Mont Vol wrote:for you it's dramatic effect and for transgender women it's dehumanisation ^_^


What about transgender sheep?

idk if they exist but if they do i'm sure they too would be pretty offended that people (and other sheep) think their genders are fake just because they once had a penis
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