Would you date a transgender?

[Kavck]

There's your problem.
She's never been a man.
She's just looked like one for a period of her life.

No... he was born a man.

And now he wants to be a woman.

That's a pretty materialistic way of looking at it.

What of the mind? What does it say? Does its opinion matter, or is it all the decision of the body?

[Occupied Deutschland]

No... he was born a man.

And now he wants to be a woman.

That's a pretty materialistic way of looking at it.

What of the mind? What does it say? Does its opinion matter, or is it all the decision of the body?

When it comes to physical properties of the body? Yes it is the decision of the body.

Our minds haven't figured out a way to replace our sexual organs, so...

[Arglorand]

No... he was born a man.

And now he wants to be a woman.

That's a pretty materialistic way of looking at it.

What of the mind? What does it say? Does its opinion matter, or is it all the decision of the body?

Male and female minds function the same way, except for matters of gender identity.

[Immoren]

I bet you wouldn't be able to tell.

I wouldn't be so sure. I'm being led to believe there's a species of male that can smell ovaries.

Perhaps after they've beek cooked.

[Occupied Deutschland]

I wouldn't be so sure. I'm being led to believe there's a species of male that can smell ovaries.

Perhaps after they've been cooked.

Goes great with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

[Euroslavia]

I absolutely would. If there's a connection, there's a connection, plain and simple.

[Immoren]

Perhaps after they've been cooked.

Goes great with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

*smacks lips*

[Defensor]

I absolutely would. If there's a connection, there's a connection, plain and simple.

I don't know, if I saw parts where they shouldn't be, I'd probably loose my connection

[Togana]

yes and i have. I dated a post op for about 5 months, i new from day one she a transexual and i dodnt judge. i date for love not sex. thats just and added plus.

[Euroslavia]

I absolutely would. If there's a connection, there's a connection, plain and simple.

I don't know, if I saw parts where they shouldn't be, I'd probably loose my connection

Fair point, hehe. For me, a connection would imply up-front honesty about everything.

[Defensor]

I don't know, if I saw parts where they shouldn't be, I'd probably loose my connection

Fair point, hehe. For me, a connection would imply up-front honesty about everything.

Ah yes, in all respects, if one is honest and upfront concerning such issues...that would be a different story

I just thought it'd be comical to all the sudden loose your sex drive cause you look and see the chicks got a dick

[Souseiseki]

How can you even kiss a woman if you knew he/she had once been a man? It's just... ILL...

infact, i don't understand how people could kiss a man. period. i mean, ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

[United Prefectures of Appia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUe ... e=youtu.be

[Grenartia]

Reposting this again, since it seems to have been missed again when you asked me to before...

My apologies.

That might change my opinion. The lack of the partner's DNA would still be a minus - I like being able to say things like "look at our daughter; she's got the same beautiful eyes you do" - but ultimately, that would at least reduce the pain of not having biological children at all, while alleviating the pain of losing out on (and very likely breaking the heart of) someone who I do care deeply about. Thus, it would at least partially resolve my lose-lose scenario.

However, I'm then concerned about the complications involved. Will the procedure be safe for my SO? What if something didn't go quite right in the surgery, and she's still not fertile? Or what if the transplant is rejected by her body? Do I have access to the uterus/ovary/etc. donor's information in order to determine whether or not there are any genetic predispositions I should be worried about? What if eggs consistently get stuck somewhere? Do we have to worry about fertilized eggs growing outside the uterus and having to be aborted every time we actually conceive?

I wouldn't want her to go through all the pain and discomfort of surgical transplants if for some reason it proves to not make a difference in whether or not we can have a biological child of our own. It just wouldn't be fair to her, especially when I'm not the one who has to jump through those hoops to make my SO happy. I would start to feel selfish demanding something of her that she can't provide no matter how much she does to make it happen. I don't want her to feel like it's her fault that my own selfish demands aren't being fulfilled, and...

God fucking dammit, I said I was going to take a break from this thread...

I think what was being referred to was the possibility of taking genetic material from your SO, and putting it in the egg of a woman who is biologically capable of carrying the child to term, and then using your sperm to fertilize it.

Male eggs

What part of people being beaten, raped and killed over this stuff do you not get?

You would think some people would realise that your partner telling you that they're trans is actually a fairly huge declaration of their trust in you.

Indeed.

I have before and, assuming my fiance kicks me to the curb, would again. In fact, she knows my tastes in women and has asked that, should we ever decide to introduce a third into our relationship, it be a trans.

I have to be honest, I am truly rather suprised that our resident conservative Orthodox would have such views. The acceptance of transgenders I suppose I could see, as your definition of a conservative lifestyle often has actually been far more inclusive than others, though the consideration of practicing polyamory really caught me off guard.

Same here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4&feature=youtu.be

Would you mind not posting youtube links, and instead typing out what you want to say? Some of us have computers that can't handle youtube ATM.

[Xathranaar]

How can you even kiss a woman if you knew he/she had once been a man? It's just... ILL...

Not everyone thinks that kissing people of the same sex is necessarily "ill". Whatever you mean by that. Even if they did, who cares. An always-woman was once a child. How can you kiss her knowing she was once a child?

How can you kiss her knowing that she was once covered in hair and had gills? How can you kiss her knowing she once looked like this:

[Defensor]

Not everyone thinks that kissing people of the same sex is necessarily "ill". Whatever you mean by that. Even if they did, who cares. An always-woman was once a child. How can you kiss her knowing she was once a child?

How can you kiss her knowing that she was once covered in hair and had gills? How can you kiss her knowing she once looked like this:

Ewwww!

[Individuality-ness]

Not everyone thinks that kissing people of the same sex is necessarily "ill". Whatever you mean by that. Even if they did, who cares. An always-woman was once a child. How can you kiss her knowing she was once a child?

How can you kiss her knowing that she was once covered in hair and had gills? How can you kiss her knowing she once looked like this:

Ah, the intricacies of embryology.

[Souseiseki]

How can you kiss her knowing that she was once covered in hair and had gills? How can you kiss her knowing she once looked like this:
(Image)

Ewwww!

how can we kiss anyone, knowing they used to be a sperm?

e: unless you were like gay or something

[Lidli]

Given the fact that Im a herm, I would figure it being a hypocrite not to.
So yes, I would be fine with it.

[Xathranaar]

Ewwww!

how can we kiss anyone, knowing they used to be a sperm?

e: unless you were like gay or something

Damn you for forcing me to confront what can only be my latent homosexuality.

[Immoren]

how can we kiss anyone, knowing they used to be a sperm?

e: unless you were like gay or something

Damn you for forcing me to confront what can only be my latent homosexuality.

All according to plan.

[Grenartia]

Given the fact that Im a herm, I would figure it being a hypocrite not to.
So yes, I would be fine with it.

Herm? Can you clarify?

[Suicune]

how can we kiss anyone, knowing they used to be a sperm?

e: unless you were like gay or something

Damn you for forcing me to confront what can only be my latent homosexuality.

Everyone has it.

[Euroslavia]

Fair point, hehe. For me, a connection would imply up-front honesty about everything.

Ah yes, in all respects, if one is honest and upfront concerning such issues...that would be a different story

I just thought it'd be comical to all the sudden loose your sex drive cause you look and see the chicks got a dick

That'd be an incredibly awkward sexual moment.

"What's that bump right under here..... oh my god."

Although, I could talk about a story where a drag queen pretended to be a girl and had sex with a guy after the bar. Now that's a bit ....off, to say the least.

[Aurora Novus]

Certainly.

The only part of dating a transgender that I could fathom being a problem for someone, is the issue of sexuality. But considering I myself am asexual...I couldn't care less. If I love them, I want to be with them. That's all the requirement I need.