Would you date a transgender?

[Person012345]

Firstly, it's intersex, secondly, "they' is an acceptable gender neutral pronoun. 'It' is dehumanizing.

'It' is talking about one person. 'It' stole my TV (vs. 'They stole my TV) is a different meaning.

Yes, sounds less friendly but done with that intention. We have to discourage people from becoming transgenders. I am for non-taxpayer funded propoganda campaigns discouraging the transgender surgeries.

No it isn't.

They can refer to a single person of unknown gender. I would refer to a trans* by their apparent gender unless I was asked otherwise.

[Nadkor]

Firstly, it's intersex, secondly, "they' is an acceptable gender neutral pronoun. 'It' is dehumanizing.

'It' is talking about one person. 'It' stole my TV (vs. 'They stole my TV) is a different meaning.

Yes, sounds less friendly but done with that intention. We have to discourage people from becoming transgenders. I am for non-taxpayer funded propoganda campaigns discouraging the transgender surgeries.

I'm not really sure how you go about discouraging people from having biological conditions.

[Xathranaar]

Your view lacks all nuance.

What would you possibly say to someone with androgen insensitivity syndrome?

I think you'd have to provide a link or explanation for what it is.

Well, I tend to assume people have the ability to google, but sure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_i ... y_syndrome

[Person012345]

Yes, sounds less friendly but done with that intention. We have to discourage people from becoming transgenders. I am for non-taxpayer funded propoganda campaigns discouraging the transgender surgeries.

Why?

Because "ew, that is icky and we should ban it".

[Choronzon]

'It' is talking about one person. 'It' stole my TV (vs. 'They stole my TV) is a different meaning.

Yes, sounds less friendly but done with that intention. We have to discourage people from becoming transgenders. I am for non-taxpayer funded propoganda campaigns discouraging the transgender surgeries.

I'm not really sure how you go about discouraging people from having biological conditions.

Permanently marking their body so bigots can identify them will probably help.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Are we suddenly the morality police here? Are we required to love everyone and to not have preferences in regards to who I'd want to date? Gah.

one does not let wounds fester.

Only the quality of individuality.

[Ifreann]

...
I'll fight you for her.

You would definitely win, since I don't think she's into girls.

Much to my disappointment.

Hoorah! Now I just have to fight all the other men from the internet...

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The subtle implication of this thread is that transgender women are only fuckable if they're Asian.

Don't be a sillypants, that's just a coincidence.

[Grenartia]

Again, in case you missed it.

indeed. otherwise i might kiss a transwoman and that might make me gay and i don't wanna be gay guys

What if a man was really bothered and killed himself because he felt that way? It would personally sicken me (although I would not kill myself). It is very unfair to the other person.

1. A tatoo should be required (a T on the forehead which could be covered with bangs) if somebody wishes for that surgery. 2. This might decrease people wishing to get the surgery and decrease transgenders. It will also decrease mistaken relationship gender misunderstandings.

3. Transgenders will not get murdered if they tell before any physical actions have taken place. Laughed at, yes but not murdered. 4. I would be happier if the shemale told me before I kissed it than after.

1. Fuck that shit. Why don't we just force all the anti-LGBT people to get a tattoo labelling them with a B (for bigot) on their foreheads? You wouldn't like that at all, would you? Neither do we.

2. No, it wouldn't, and its unethical any way you slice it.

3. You know nothing about violence against transgender people. Your 'solution' will solve NOTHING. Trans* people have been beaten and killed for simply EXISTING, by people they weren't making any sexual advances on.

4. Again, you're just proving you know nothing about this subject, by your use of slurs against trans* people, and referring to us as 'it'.

Absolutely agreed. I wonder what makes him so sure of his response when he finds out. I, for one, wouldn't be so sure.

These cases are on talk shows so I had the chance to ask myself how I would react. It would be very hurtful, especally if I had sex with it and was married.

Do you even comprehend how dehumanizing referring to somebody (much less an entire group of people) as an 'it' is?

And, in case you didn't see it the first time.

Scary. Also a good reason for divorce. That is a HUGE secret your spouse kept from you. Transgender people should be honest before any kissing/intimate contact is made in the relationship (first date would be best) for obvious reasons.

If you haven't done so already, you might want to read the post I've quoted below.

The "It's the deception of not being told beforehand that annoys me" mentality is dangerously ignorant and intolerant. Do you have any idea what it's like to live in a society where if people know who or what you are, you risk ostracisation at least and assault or murder at worst? "Oh no it turns out the girl/boy who I've been seeing and have had no problem thus far was once a male/female woe is me!" boo fucking hoo, your side of the deal is immensely ideal compared to our side. Most of us try to forever stealth it because of this bullshit mentality, so if we've actually told you at some point, that means a high level of trust, given that many of us die from doing that in many cases, and you should feel ashamed as an ethical human being for thinking you're the one who's being faulted more.

[Agymnum]

So you want propaganda?

Seriously, propaganda? I thought we were educated enough to understand that propaganda is a bad thing.

If that's the case, people need to review their education, because that's wrong.

When is propaganda ever a good thing?

Propaganda (noun): Information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

If it's of a biased or misleading nature, it's probably not something we want people to accept as being truth.

Educating people is good. Making them swallow propaganda is not.

[The Blaatschapen]

Here comes another one.

Are we suddenly the morality police here? Are we required to love everyone and to not have preferences in regards to who I'd want to date? Gah.

I guess it was more about the way he phrased his preference than about his preference. My post was also claiming that I won't date trans people, but people were reacting quite differently on that

[Nadkor]

You would definitely win, since I don't think she's into girls.

Much to my disappointment.

Hoorah! Now I just have to fight all the other men from the internet...

"The Men from the Internet" sounds like the least terrifying gang ever.

[Agymnum]

Hoorah! Now I just have to fight all the other men from the internet...

"The Men from the Internet" sounds like the least terrifying gang ever.

Instead of gang signs, they flash longcat and nyancat pictures.

[Neutraligon]

"The Men from the Internet" sounds like the least terrifying gang ever.

Instead of gang signs, they flash longcat and nyancat pictures.

I'm kinda scared now.

[Xathranaar]

Hoorah! Now I just have to fight all the other men from the internet...

"The Men from the Internet" sounds like the least terrifying gang ever.

They were pretty tough in Live Free or Die Hard.

[Ifreann]

Hoorah! Now I just have to fight all the other men from the internet...

"The Men from the Internet" sounds like the least terrifying gang ever.

I'd be confident if I wasn't one of them.

[Nadkor]

"The Men from the Internet" sounds like the least terrifying gang ever.

Instead of gang signs, they flash longcat and nyancat pictures.

And because at least 75% of them are teenage aspies your main defensive move is trying to engage them in conversation.

[Ceannairceach]

If that's the case, people need to review their education, because that's wrong.

When is propaganda ever a good thing?

Propaganda (noun): Information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

If it's of a biased or misleading nature, it's probably not something we want people to accept as being truth.

Educating people is good. Making them swallow propaganda is not.

Do note the abbreviation of 'especially" in that little bolded section. Propaganda is neither good nor bad, but can be used for either.

[Arglorand]

Sure, why not.

[The Blaatschapen]

Instead of gang signs, they flash longcat and nyancat pictures.

And because at least 75% of them are teenage aspies your main defensive move is trying to engage them in conversation.

If they are teenaged then they aren't men, but boys.

[Individuality-ness]

Are we suddenly the morality police here? Are we required to love everyone and to not have preferences in regards to who I'd want to date? Gah.

I guess it was more about the way he phrased his preference than about his preference. My post was also claiming that I won't date trans people, but people were reacting quite differently on that

Well, yes. There's a way to phrase it respectfully, I posted an example on how to do it earlier.

The problem with these threads is that we're treating <group> as something to be studied, a subspecies on what is seen as "normal" (heaven knows what that really is). Trans* people are just people, they're not some new category of human. *sigh*

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Hoorah! Now I just have to fight all the other men from the internet...

"The Men from the Internet" sounds like the least terrifying gang ever.

Or the creepiest

[Agymnum]

When is propaganda ever a good thing?

Propaganda (noun): Information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

If it's of a biased or misleading nature, it's probably not something we want people to accept as being truth.

Educating people is good. Making them swallow propaganda is not.

Do note the abbreviation of 'especially" in that little bolded section. Propaganda is neither good nor bad, but can be used for either.

Especially denotes that while propaganda is not necessarily biased or misleading, it's common usage in everyday language involves information that is biased or misleading.

I would prefer if "education" was referred do if we're talking about disseminating information to the public. Propaganda has the implication that were disseminating false or otherwise misleading information.

[Nadkor]

And because at least 75% of them are teenage aspies your main defensive move is trying to engage them in conversation.

If they are teenaged then they aren't men, but boys.

Well, yeah, but people like to big themselves up.

[The Blaatschapen]

I guess it was more about the way he phrased his preference than about his preference. My post was also claiming that I won't date trans people, but people were reacting quite differently on that

Well, yes. There's a way to phrase it respectfully, I posted an example on how to do it earlier.

The problem with these threads is that we're treating <group> as something to be studied, a subspecies on what is seen as "normal" (heaven knows what that really is). Trans* people are just people, they're not some new category of human. *sigh*

Oooh, we should have a "would you date a Homo Erectus or Neanderthal?" if we want to talk about new categories of humans

[Agymnum]

Well, yes. There's a way to phrase it respectfully, I posted an example on how to do it earlier.

The problem with these threads is that we're treating <group> as something to be studied, a subspecies on what is seen as "normal" (heaven knows what that really is). Trans* people are just people, they're not some new category of human. *sigh*

Oooh, we should have a "would you date a Homo Erectus or Neanderthal?" if we want to talk about new categories of humans

Neanderthal, for sure. Bigger brains are <3.