Genetically Modified Foods

[Vazdania]

exactly, I want to buy natural broccoli to eat it instead of genetically modified broccoli.

What are you afraid of?

Nothing, I just want to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, meat, milk, etc... that G-d (and nature) gave us. I don't want to eat some genetically altered crud!

[United Marxist Nations]

I don't think it should be labelled, because that would seem to encourage ignorance about GMOs.

[Vazdania]

Not really extra packaging, just either two more printed letters (GM) or not.

People will think it's from General Motors.

Yes, I am pulling your ... uhm ... stem.

[Farnhamia]

Why?

Because if one wants to eat naturally, then they should be able to. This artificial attack on natural food makes it difficult to tell what's truly natural and what's been artificially toyed with...

What's not natural? "Natural foods" is a term devised by the USDA to allow some farmers to charge you up the wazoo for the same food you can by on the next shelf over for a third the price.

[The Cosmos]

Seeing as how pretty much the only genetic modifications applied to foods is to make the plants hardier and able to live in harsher climates as well as producing more per acre, I don't see why this is an issue outside of the scaremongers who claim that we're creating poison. There are people who need this food to survive, billions of them, in fact. We literally cannot feed everyone with purely organic farming, and I think that the people who try forcing the world to give up genetically modified food are some of the most evil people in history.

I support GM foods myself, but there are some drawbacks. For instance, the insertion of another protein, while contributing to hardiness, could also, for instance, form a chemical that is toxic to the plant's main pollinators. If you have studied much advanced biology, you would know that genetic modification nearly always has unplanned effects.

[Olthar]

What are you afraid of?

Nothing, I just want to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, meat, milk, etc... that G-d (and nature) gave us. I don't want to eat some genetically altered crud!

Unless you hop in a time machine and go back to before the invention of agriculture, that is never going to happen.

[Tubbsalot]

What are you afraid of?

Nothing, I just want to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, meat, milk, etc... that G-d (and nature) gave us. I don't want to eat some genetically altered crud!

yeah well none of the plants or animals you eat resemble their 'original' natural state (by which I mean the ancestral holotype from before human-directed reproductive control began). so you're fucked on that one regardless of whether you eat gmos.

p.s. DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN FLUSH CHEMICALS OUT OF YOUR BODY BY DRINKING THIS FRESH NATURAL SPRING WATER IT'S ONLY 99 DOLLARS

[Rereumrari]

What are you afraid of?

Nothing, I just want to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, meat, milk, etc... that G-d (and nature) gave us. I don't want to eat some genetically altered crud!

Why would God give us the knowledge to modify food if he didn't want us to do it?

[Farnhamia]

Nothing, I just want to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, meat, milk, etc... that G-d (and nature) gave us. I don't want to eat some genetically altered crud!

Unless you hop in a time machine and go back to before the invention of agriculture, that is never going to happen.

Food back then was not as good as it is now. Trust me on this.

[Broccoli]

Because if one wants to eat naturally, then they should be able to. This artificial attack on natural food makes it difficult to tell what's truly natural and what's been artificially toyed with...

What's not natural? "Natural foods" is a term devised by the USDA to allow some farmers to charge you up the wazoo for the same food you can by on the next shelf over for a third the price.

I agree - the word 'natural' itself means nothing.

[Tubbsalot]

I support GM foods myself, but there are some drawbacks. For instance, the insertion of another protein, while contributing to hardiness, could also, for instance, form a chemical that is toxic to the plant's main pollinators. If you have studied much advanced biology, you would know that genetic modification nearly always has unplanned effects.

um it's pretty clear you haven't had much education in biology at all, so I'm not sure why you're pretending to be super-knowledgable.

fyi that is not how genetic modification works.

[Vazdania]

Nothing, I just want to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, meat, milk, etc... that G-d (and nature) gave us. I don't want to eat some genetically altered crud!

Why would God give us the knowledge to modify food if he didn't want us to do it?

G-d's given us the knowledge to preform rape, and we don't see him applauding that, now do we?

[Olthar]

Seeing as how pretty much the only genetic modifications applied to foods is to make the plants hardier and able to live in harsher climates as well as producing more per acre, I don't see why this is an issue outside of the scaremongers who claim that we're creating poison. There are people who need this food to survive, billions of them, in fact. We literally cannot feed everyone with purely organic farming, and I think that the people who try forcing the world to give up genetically modified food are some of the most evil people in history.

I support GM foods myself, but there are some drawbacks. For instance, the insertion of another protein, while contributing to hardiness, could also, for instance, form a chemical that is toxic to the plant's main pollinators. If you have studied much advanced biology, you would know that genetic modification nearly always has unplanned effects.

That's what testing is for. Science has a sort of method, you see, and isn't just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks. Genetically modified foods are put through rigorous testing, and if something slips through, then that's the fault of the testing involved, not the process of genetically modifying food.

[Farnhamia]

Nothing, I just want to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, meat, milk, etc... that G-d (and nature) gave us. I don't want to eat some genetically altered crud!

Why would God give us the knowledge to modify food if he didn't want us to do it?

It's a test. He's like that.

[The Cosmos]

Unless you hop in a time machine and go back to before the invention of agriculture, that is never going to happen.

Food back then was not as good as it is now. Trust me on this.

Of course, taco trucks weren't invented until a few year back.

[Farnhamia]

Food back then was not as good as it is now. Trust me on this.

Of course, taco trucks weren't invented until a few year back.

Farther back. Someone will explain it to you.

[Olthar]

Unless you hop in a time machine and go back to before the invention of agriculture, that is never going to happen.

Food back then was not as good as it is now. Trust me on this.

Oh, I'm sure of that. I doubt there was even pasta or ice cream.

[The Cosmos]

I support GM foods myself, but there are some drawbacks. For instance, the insertion of another protein, while contributing to hardiness, could also, for instance, form a chemical that is toxic to the plant's main pollinators. If you have studied much advanced biology, you would know that genetic modification nearly always has unplanned effects.

That's what testing is for. Science has a sort of method, you see, and isn't just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks. Genetically modified foods are put through rigorous testing, and if something slips through, then that's the fault of the testing involved, not the process of genetically modifying food.

Basically, science is 'throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.' It's just done in a less vulgar and more organized fashion. Scientists input hundreds of different genes and see which ones work. The ones that do, they test. But just because something slips through doesn't mean its a fault in the testing. Take the bT corn, for example. Scientists shook flower parts onto leaves to see the effect on insects; when the insects died, they thought it was because of the flower parts. It was not until it was released into commercial use (modified to have no flower parts) that they realized that it was not the flower parts, it was the pollen, that was poisonous.

[Farnhamia]

Food back then was not as good as it is now. Trust me on this.

Oh, I'm sure of that. I doubt there was even pasta or ice cream.

Ice cream? there wasn't even milk.

[The Cosmos]

Of course, taco trucks weren't invented until a few year back.

Farther back. Someone will explain it to you.

Oh, you don't have to teach me about taco trucks. I know every bit of tacotrucktrivia that there is. Including the flying monkey.

[The Cosmos]

Oh, I'm sure of that. I doubt there was even pasta or ice cream.

Ice cream? there wasn't even milk.

Oh, yes there was. People have been milking cows, goats, and/or sheep for millenia.

[Olthar]

Oh, I'm sure of that. I doubt there was even pasta or ice cream.

Ice cream? there wasn't even milk.

Nuuuuuuuuu! D':

[Farnhamia]

Ice cream? there wasn't even milk.

Oh, yes there was. People have been milking cows, goats, and/or sheep for millenia.

Warmer ...

[Broccoli]

Oh, yes there was. People have been milking cows, goats, and/or sheep for millenia.

Warmer ...

ooh, warm milk! YUM!

[Tubbsalot]

Basically, science is 'throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.'

no it really isn't! stop sounding so certain about this when you don't actually know what you're talking about!

if science were just random bullshit it wouldn't have a specific name like that and we wouldn't be making the vast majority of technological advances on its back. research operates by producing theory which reflects reality, then applying this theory to produce new and interesting things or ideas. the whole point is that you avoid having to brute force it.