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What is your view on genetically modified foods?

They should be banned!
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They should all be labeled as genetically modified.
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Gender mollified what?
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They should be encouraged.
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48%
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3
2%
Who cares? Just don't touch fried chicken.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:28 pm

Bodangus wrote:Mankind loves itself so much it now believes it can have a say in the composition of the food we eat but we cant feed the hungry.

The fuck are you talking about?
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Postby Bodangus » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:33 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Bodangus wrote:Mankind loves itself so much it now believes it can have a say in the composition of the food we eat but we cant feed the hungry.

The fuck are you talking about?



Dont you read english?

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Postby Alekera » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:37 pm

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A knife to the head isn't good, but its fine if you swallow it.

You don't know how tempting it is now to link to the wikipedia article about sword swallowing. Seriously though, that's how the human body works: eating something can be totally different from having it directly introduced to your blood stream. Between stomach acid, digestive enzymes, the selective permeability of the small intestine, and the blood brain barrier, the two routes aren't even remotely comparable.


Well I'm pretty sure drinking alcohol has an affect on the brain, just as injecting alcohol into the brain would.

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Postby The Corparation » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:43 pm

Alekera wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:You don't know how tempting it is now to link to the wikipedia article about sword swallowing. Seriously though, that's how the human body works: eating something can be totally different from having it directly introduced to your blood stream. Between stomach acid, digestive enzymes, the selective permeability of the small intestine, and the blood brain barrier, the two routes aren't even remotely comparable.


Well I'm pretty sure drinking alcohol has an affect on the brain, just as injecting alcohol into the brain would.

Injecting a drop of Alcohol into your brain would kill you. Drinking the same amount wouldn't even get you buzzed. The same goes for MSG, injecting it into your blood is bad but, eating the miniscule amount in food has no effect because it gets broken down and or passes right through you thanks to the digestive system
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Postby Alekera » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:46 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Alekera wrote:
Well I'm pretty sure drinking alcohol has an affect on the brain, just as injecting alcohol into the brain would.

Injecting a drop of Alcohol into your brain would kill you. Drinking the same amount wouldn't even get you buzzed. The same goes for MSG, injecting it into your blood is bad but, eating the miniscule amount in food has no effect because it gets broken down and or passes right through you thanks to the digestive system


Still shows how it can be bad for you :/

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Postby The Corparation » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:49 pm

Alekera wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Injecting a drop of Alcohol into your brain would kill you. Drinking the same amount wouldn't even get you buzzed. The same goes for MSG, injecting it into your blood is bad but, eating the miniscule amount in food has no effect because it gets broken down and or passes right through you thanks to the digestive system


Still shows how it can be bad for you :/

Pretty much everything you eat is bad for you if you take several times what the normal amount you get when you eat and inject it directly into your bloodstream. Stomach acid, digestive enzymes and, the small intestine,r exist for a reason. Injecting shit straight into the bloodstream bypasses those natural bodyguards.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:51 pm

Bodangus wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:The fuck are you talking about?



Dont you read english?

I do. And if you ever type in it, I'd be glad to show you.
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Postby Alekera » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:53 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Alekera wrote:
Still shows how it can be bad for you :/

Pretty much everything you eat is bad for you if you take several times what the normal amount you get when you eat and inject it directly into your bloodstream. Stomach acid, digestive enzymes and, the small intestine,r exist for a reason. Injecting shit straight into the bloodstream bypasses those natural bodyguards.


Not trying to argue at all, but if one were to do heroin, it would have less an effect if you ingest it rather than to inject it? amaright? :)

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:54 pm

Alekera wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Pretty much everything you eat is bad for you if you take several times what the normal amount you get when you eat and inject it directly into your bloodstream. Stomach acid, digestive enzymes and, the small intestine,r exist for a reason. Injecting shit straight into the bloodstream bypasses those natural bodyguards.


Not trying to argue at all, but if one were to do heroin, it would have less an effect if you ingest it rather than to inject it? amaright? :)

<-- The goal posts are about a quarter mile that way, buddy.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Alekera » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:02 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Alekera wrote:
Not trying to argue at all, but if one were to do heroin, it would have less an effect if you ingest it rather than to inject it? amaright? :)

<-- The goal posts are about a quarter mile that way, buddy.


Don't be a smartass, its a legitimate question. :roll:

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Postby The Corparation » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:03 pm

Alekera wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:<-- The goal posts are about a quarter mile that way, buddy.


Don't be a smartass, its a legitimate question. :roll:

No its you moving the goalposts again. Like you've done practically every time you've made a post for the last page.
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Postby Alekera » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:04 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Alekera wrote:
Don't be a smartass, its a legitimate question. :roll:

No its you moving the goalposts again. Like you've done practically every time you've made a post for the last page.


So no answer? alrighty then.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:12 pm

Alekera wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:<-- The goal posts are about a quarter mile that way, buddy.


Don't be a smartass, its a legitimate question. :roll:

No, it's an incredibly disingenuous way of insinuating MSG is on a par with heroin.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Sociobiology » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:39 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Alekera wrote:
Still shows how it can be bad for you :/

Pretty much everything you eat is bad for you if you take several times what the normal amount you get when you eat and inject it directly into your bloodstream. Stomach acid, digestive enzymes and, the small intestine,r exist for a reason. Injecting shit straight into the bloodstream bypasses those natural bodyguards.

this is true
heck, drinking to much water can kill you.
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Postby Hircus » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:40 pm

My problem with GMO's especially seeds is.

Monsanto creates gmo seed , farmer plants seed, farmer has extra seed from harvest, farmer cannot replant the seed because it is genetic property and the farmer can be sued.
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Postby Sociobiology » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:45 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:

I'll keep it in mind should I ever consider injecting MSG straight into my brain; meanwhile, studies of people actually ingesting it in the normal method, via their mouths, show no replicable problems.


not to mention they had to get it to about a 10% concentration, shit I would like to know what doesn't harm the brain at those concentrations.
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Postby Sociobiology » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:47 pm

Hircus wrote:My problem with GMO's especially seeds is.

Monsanto creates gmo seed , farmer plants seed, farmer has extra seed from harvest, farmer cannot replant the seed because it is genetic property and the farmer can be sued.

which is a problem with our patent laws not GMO. One that should be changed'
I can't patent a new type of hammer because it is too easy to make, why should something that will literally make itself be any different.
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Postby Aequalitia » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:56 pm

Well, GMF is not bad, so long the product its not GMF only because resistance. If you GMF a product only because have a better resistance is just only useful in the short-term, but a bad step in the long-term. Look to antibiotics this days, more and more viruses and bacteria's are resistance for most antibiotics. And on a day, if we not use antibiotics on a wise way, then some viruses and bacteria's are immune for all antibiotics, and are we back to the 1920's.

We must accept that harvest sometimes are bad, its not always sunny. And of course, GMF is not bad, so long its not in the name of: More resistance.
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Postby Hircus » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:10 pm

And a lot of the changes in the seed are not for nutrition, but for glyophosphate resistance (Round-up) which they invented. So they may still get the patents.
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Postby Bodangus » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:46 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Bodangus wrote:

Dont you read english?

I do. And if you ever type in it, I'd be glad to show you.


Highly strung aren't you. Do you eat healthily and exercise?

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Postby Grad Duchy of Luxembourg » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:59 am

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Alekera wrote:
Don't be a smartass, its a legitimate question. :roll:

No, it's an incredibly disingenuous way of insinuating MSG is on a par with heroin.

It sounds like he really does think it. Poor guy.
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Postby Grad Duchy of Luxembourg » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:00 am

Bodangus wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:I do. And if you ever type in it, I'd be glad to show you.


Highly strung aren't you. Do you eat healthily and exercise?

Yeah, it's sad that we can't feed the hungry, but what's your point?
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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:19 am

I've no problem with them. There's probably no point trying to label them as such, because you'd end up labelling almost everything.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:27 am

They are the future and there is no real argument against them.
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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:29 am

Great Nepal wrote:They are the future and there is no real argument against them.


They're also the past. We've been eating GM foods at least since the Industrial Revolution.
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

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