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Postby Faolinn » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:20 am

I'm really not sure.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:21 am

The IASM wrote:One problem, male/female perverts.

Urinals are theft. Impeach perverts.

Seriously, perverts will be no less or more of a problem if we change a sign on a bathroom door. Maybe we should segregate subway cars, buses, park benches, etc. into male/female because perverts!
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Postby Seshephe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:21 am

East Catalina wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Nah. Women's restrooms are nasty.

Here is something I wonder: Women tell me that they squat over a toilet rather than sit on it because they don't trust that the toilet seat is clean. They then proceed to piss all over it.

Is the irony lost on them? :unsure:

Phahahaha... :lol2:
but seriously no. The restrooms at my school (are those considered as fitting the adopted definition of "public"?) are nasty enough.

Funny how the restrooms at my School were gender neutral and perfectly clean most of the time...
Though I'd be lying if I said they weren't used for sex every now and then... but really so what?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:22 am

Seshephe wrote:
East Catalina wrote:Phahahaha... :lol2:
but seriously no. The restrooms at my school (are those considered as fitting the adopted definition of "public"?) are nasty enough.

Funny how the restrooms at my School were gender neutral and perfectly clean most of the time...


mine too. Except the ceiling, which had mounds of wet tissue paper that'd dried stuck to it.
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Postby Faolinn » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:23 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Seshephe wrote:Funny how the restrooms at my School were gender neutral and perfectly clean most of the time...


mine too. Except the ceiling, which had mounds of wet tissue paper that'd dried stuck to it.

Dear Gods, this was the state of the men's room at my high school for the longest time.
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Postby Seshephe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:23 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Seshephe wrote:Funny how the restrooms at my School were gender neutral and perfectly clean most of the time...


mine too. Except the ceiling, which had mounds of wet tissue paper that'd dried stuck to it.

Eeeewww.... grose


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Postby Bottle » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:24 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
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Not all use of offensive language is hate speech. Context matters- a word only has whatever connotation people gives it.

You think comedians are politically correct? If not, then why aren't they derided as hatemongers? Because context matters.


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Whether or not someone is joking doesn't rule out them also being an asshole.

Hell, it doesn't even guarantee that what they said is funny.
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Postby Zottistan » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:26 am

I don't see why not.
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Postby Seshephe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:26 am

Desperate Measures wrote:
The IASM wrote:One problem, male/female perverts.

Urinals are theft. Impeach perverts.

Seriously, perverts will be no less or more of a problem if we change a sign on a bathroom door. Maybe we should segregate subway cars, buses, park benches, etc. into male/female because perverts!

Urinals are grose. Just get rid of them I say.
Honestly though I don't really care if bathrooms are unisex or not. I just find it funny how upset people can get over something so massively trivial. In general I think that unisex bathrooms tend to be nicer...


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Postby Faolinn » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:27 am

Seshephe wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:Urinals are theft. Impeach perverts.

Seriously, perverts will be no less or more of a problem if we change a sign on a bathroom door. Maybe we should segregate subway cars, buses, park benches, etc. into male/female because perverts!

Urinals are grose. Just get rid of them I say.
Honestly though I don't really care if bathrooms are unisex or not. I just find it funny how upset people can get over something so massively trivial. In general I think that unisex bathrooms tend to be nicer...

I support getting rid of urinals.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:32 am

Bottle wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
"How do people manage to attend a comedy show, and not suspect the motherfucker on stage...might be joking?" - Reginald D Hunter

Whether or not someone is joking doesn't rule out them also being an asshole.

Hell, it doesn't even guarantee that what they said is funny.


Ofcourse. But that just makes them a bad comedian. Not a racist or a sexist or whatever, which is usually what offended people claim.
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Postby Alexander Sothis » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:37 am

I support the use of however trannies have been doing all this time. It appears to be working, or there would be a lot of people standing around with their legs crossed and dancing having to use the bathroom all over the world. This is a non-issue.

The fact is, nobody likes to use public restrooms. Nobody.

What I think they should do is rather than separate it by gender (or anything of that nature), separate them by political party affiliation. Conservatives can have the normal male/female rooms, and the liberal can have female, male, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transexual (and everything else on that long acronym). Then establishments that want to pay for extrabathrooms to facilitate a certain clientel can build them at their own expense.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:38 am

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The move was described as "political correctness gone barmy" by opponents

All I needed to hear. *stamp of approval*

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Postby Seshephe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:39 am

Alexander Sothis wrote:I support the use of however trannies have been doing all this time. It appears to be working, or there would be a lot of people standing around with their legs crossed and dancing having to use the bathroom all over the world. This is a non-issue.

The fact is, nobody likes to use public restrooms. Nobody.

What I think they should do is rather than separate it by gender (or anything of that nature), separate them by political party affiliation. Conservatives can have the normal male/female rooms, and the liberal can have female, male, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transexual (and everything else on that long acronym). Then establishments that want to pay for extrabathrooms to facilitate a certain clientel can build them at their own expense.

I like to use public bathrooms :unsure:
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Postby Alexander Sothis » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:41 am

I like public bathrooms :unsure:


^Clearly has never been to America :lol:

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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:41 am

Why can't people just tolerate transexuals? T'would be so much easier on all of us.

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:41 am

Alexander Sothis wrote:I support the use of however trannies have been doing all this time. It appears to be working, or there would be a lot of people standing around with their legs crossed and dancing having to use the bathroom all over the world. This is a non-issue.

The fact is, nobody likes to use public restrooms. Nobody.

What I think they should do is rather than separate it by gender (or anything of that nature), separate them by political party affiliation. Conservatives can have the normal male/female rooms, and the liberal can have female, male, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transexual (and everything else on that long acronym). Then establishments that want to pay for extrabathrooms to facilitate a certain clientel can build them at their own expense.


Do you not realize how offensive that word is?

Anyway I'm on my phone so I can't respond easily, but this doesn't take much.

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Postby Seshephe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:41 am

Alexander Sothis wrote:
I like public bathrooms :unsure:


^Clearly has never been to America :lol:

:p


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Postby Phocidaea » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:42 am

So no one responded to my challenger earlier...

What reason is there for gender-neutral restrooms? What shortcomings do segregated ones present that could be fixed by throwing everyone in one room?
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Postby Seshephe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:42 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Why can't people just tolerate transexuals? T'would be so much easier on all of us.

Why must life be so hard?

most people are very insecure...


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Postby Desperate Measures » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:43 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Why can't people just tolerate transexuals? T'would be so much easier on all of us.

Why must life be so hard?

"BECAUSE I DON'T GET IT AND I'M SCARED!" I think.
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Postby Faolinn » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:43 am

My only problem is that they don't make the locks on doors stronger and they don't do a good job of making sure every possible area is sufficiently closed.That and they don't seem to clean them properly.
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Postby Seshephe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:44 am

Phocidaea wrote:So no one responded to my challenger earlier...

What reason is there for gender-neutral restrooms? What shortcomings do segregated ones present that could be fixed by throwing everyone in one room?

Lets say that one boy and three girls want to go to the bathroom at the same time. There are two boys bathrooms and two girls bathrooms. Do the math.
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Postby Seshephe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:45 am

Faolinn wrote:My only problem is that they don't make the locks on doors stronger and they don't do a good job of making sure every possible area is sufficiently closed.That and they don't seem to clean them properly.


Look seriously, if someone is determined to actually brake through a bathroom door I don't think that a sign with a skirt is going to stop them...
just saying...


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Postby Faolinn » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:46 am

Seshephe wrote:
Faolinn wrote:My only problem is that they don't make the locks on doors stronger and they don't do a good job of making sure every possible area is sufficiently closed.That and they don't seem to clean them properly.


Look seriously, if someone is determined to actually brake through a bathroom door I don't think that a sign with a skirt is going to stop them...
just saying...

I'm talking more about bathroom stalls.
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