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Should we ban the naughty videos from the interwebz?

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NO! I need my pictures and videos of people and their naughty bits.
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Here's a better idea.....BAN THE INTERNET!
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Ban the Internet? But that will make Al Gore cry.
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Who gives a s#!t about Al Gore?
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As long as I can still watch Hasselhoff eat a cheeseburger off the floor, I'm ok.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:04 am

Lolination wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:But if you can get someone to view said videos, that is a demand for more. How do you not see this?

I can't see that because it's wrong. If getting someone to view something increases demand, then marketers would be out of a job, because all people would need to do is show them their product to instill a demand automatically.

Video demand is generated by the amount of views. *palm*

This is not including the fact that if it's posted online, the maker gets ad revenues with said video.
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Postby Lolination » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:04 am

New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yes, let's say child pornography is harmless because the abused children aren't still scarred horribly by it in their 40s. Makes perfect sense.

How does child pornography abuse children? How does a video or an image harm someone? Did an image rape you as a child?

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Postby Hatsunia » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:05 am

I'm too prudish to watch porn, but I guess this will work as well as Prohibition in the U.S.
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Postby Minoriteeburg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:05 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Lolination wrote:I can't see that because it's wrong. If getting someone to view something increases demand, then marketers would be out of a job, because all people would need to do is show them their product to instill a demand automatically.

Video demand is generated by the amount of views. *palm*

This is not including the fact that if it's posted online, the maker gets ad revenues with said video.



Yup.

No one knows that a product exists, until it is seen or heard by people. Then if interest grows in the product, the product sells.

Basic marketing right there.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:05 am

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Minoriteeburg wrote:

Well who needs Empirical Research anyway. :roll:

A study without research is not much of a study.


Yes, let's say child pornography is harmless because the abused children aren't still scarred horribly by it in their 40s. Makes perfect sense.


When you have eight thousand cases suggesting Yes, Then Yeah it makes sense.

Sorry to the few folks that fell through the cracks but tough.

I don't advocate rape anyway but i do believe that a sexual or rommantic relation shouldn't be restricted to two consenting people.
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Postby Minoriteeburg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:05 am

Hatsunia wrote:I'm too prudish to watch porn, but I guess this will work as well as Prohibition in the U.S.



I can just imagine the great Icelandic Porn Barons.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:06 am

The Zeonic States wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Yes, let's say child pornography is harmless because the abused children aren't still scarred horribly by it in their 40s. Makes perfect sense.


When you have eight thousand cases suggesting Yes, Then Yeah it makes sense.

Sorry to the few folks that fell through the cracks but tough.

I don't advocate rape anyway but i do believe that a sexual or rommantic relation shouldn't be restricted to two consenting people.

Consent requires being capable of understanding, and while age is arbitrary an arbitrarily assigned barrier for something this important is better than no barrier at all.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:06 am

Ban the French.

That's 50% of the problem gone right there.
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Postby Oterro » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:06 am

Lolination wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yes, let's say child pornography is harmless because the abused children aren't still scarred horribly by it in their 40s. Makes perfect sense.

How does child pornography abuse children? How does a video or an image harm someone? Did an image rape you as a child?

if you're not being punched or physically violated you're not being hurt right.
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That's 50% of the problem gone right there.

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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:06 am

Minoriteeburg wrote:
Hatsunia wrote:I'm too prudish to watch porn, but I guess this will work as well as Prohibition in the U.S.



I can just imagine the great Iceland Porn Barons.


:lol2:

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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:07 am

Minoriteeburg wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:there's no doubt it's rape, but there's no doubt that most rape is kinda sex too, so i'm wondering where you got the "sex only refers to consensual sex" thing from, but hey


Rape is kinda sex?

Rape is rape. End of story.

there are some things i'd call rape (shoving a dildo down your throat) that are to my knowledge classified as sexual assault and not rape. so rape without sex, woah. unless you consider that sex. which you might. and oh god i can't believe i'm digging myself a hole in the same thread this shit is happening.
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Postby Minoriteeburg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:07 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Ban the French.

That's 50% of the problem gone right there.



And the other 50% is......
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Postby Immoren » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:07 am

Lolination wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yes, let's say child pornography is harmless because the abused children aren't still scarred horribly by it in their 40s. Makes perfect sense.

How does child pornography abuse children? How does a video or an image harm someone? Did an image rape you as a child?

Me thinks someone's intentionally obtuse.

Minoriteeburg wrote:
Hatsunia wrote:I'm too prudish to watch porn, but I guess this will work as well as Prohibition in the U.S.



I can just imagine the great Iceland Porn Barons.

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:08 am

Minoriteeburg wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Ban the French.

That's 50% of the problem gone right there.



And the other 50% is......

Erm... in-invade F-France?
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Postby Hatsunia » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:10 am

Hatsunia wrote:I'm too prudish to watch porn

Also I don't believe in enforcing this belief on anyone else.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:11 am

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
When you have eight thousand cases suggesting Yes, Then Yeah it makes sense.

Sorry to the few folks that fell through the cracks but tough.

I don't advocate rape anyway but i do believe that a sexual or rommantic relation shouldn't be restricted to two consenting people.

Consent requires being capable of understanding, and while age is arbitrary an arbitrarily assigned barrier for something this important is better than no barrier at all.


:roll: And of course a thirteen year old mind is incapable of understanding the concept of relations? Which this modern generation has sort of shot to **** that concept anyway.

._. Ergo that Yeah i believe consent can be established lower then 20,18,21, or 17.

This Modern society has sexually charged this generation and exposed them to the concepts earlier, they are becoming sexually active Earlier so Yeah that arbitrarily assigned line sort of has no meaning now.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:11 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Ban the French.

That's 50% of the problem gone right there.

That's your answer to everything.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:12 am

Immoren wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Ban the French.

That's 50% of the problem gone right there.

That's your answer to everything.

I can't help it if it's true.
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Postby Minoriteeburg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:12 am

Immoren wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Ban the French.

That's 50% of the problem gone right there.

That's your answer to everything.



50% of the time it is the correct answer.
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Postby Minoriteeburg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:12 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Minoriteeburg wrote:

And the other 50% is......

Erm... in-invade F-France?



No need, just ask them to surrender.
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Dumb Ideologies - NSG is argument porn
Greater Cabinda - You are the Drunken Master.
Nanatsu no Tsuki - Titty... titties are so beautiful.
Ailiailia - It's Minoriteeburg, our cheap substitute for Drunk Commies.
The Blaatschapen - Now, if there exists a person with two penises, he can shave the pubes of the right one that way. If he then gets an erection he could say he's doing a Nazi salute.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:13 am

Minoriteeburg wrote:
Immoren wrote:That's your answer to everything.



50% of the time it is the correct answer.


The french are at the root of every concern?
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Postby Oterro » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:14 am

The Zeonic States wrote: :roll: And of course a thirteen year old mind is incapable of understanding the concept of relations?

yeah most of them are.

sorry bucko.
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Postby Minoriteeburg » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:15 am

Oterro wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote: :roll: And of course a thirteen year old mind is incapable of understanding the concept of relations?

yeah most of them are.

sorry bucko.



^This.
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Dumb Ideologies - NSG is argument porn
Greater Cabinda - You are the Drunken Master.
Nanatsu no Tsuki - Titty... titties are so beautiful.
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The Blaatschapen - Now, if there exists a person with two penises, he can shave the pubes of the right one that way. If he then gets an erection he could say he's doing a Nazi salute.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:16 am

Oterro wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote: :roll: And of course a thirteen year old mind is incapable of understanding the concept of relations?

yeah most of them are.

sorry bucko.


Is that denouncing my agrument or favoring it?

I didn't understand the wording.
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Postby Lolination » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:16 am

Immoren wrote:
Lolination wrote:How does child pornography abuse children? How does a video or an image harm someone? Did an image rape you as a child?

Me thinks someone's intentionally obtuse.

No, there's an important distinction to me made. You cannot equate child pornography with child abuse simply because it required abuse to create. Abused children are scarred because of the abuse, even if no pornography was created, the pornography isn't relevant.

Individuality-ness wrote:Video demand is generated by the amount of views. *palm*

This is not including the fact that if it's posted online, the maker gets ad revenues with said video.

Wrong. The view count is an indicator of the demand, not the creator of demand.

Child pornography has no ad revenue.

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