Are you Theist or Atheist?

[Individuality-ness]

[citation needed]

Is there any cite you would be remotely interested in?

If there was infallible proof, would you believe it?

I would like peer-reviewed scientific sources that show that a supreme being had a hand in creating the universe, yes.

Infallible proof? Science doesn't work that way.

[The New Sea Territory]

I don't believe nothing exploded into everything. Something had to cause the big bang.

[Faolinn]

God is not willing to demand child sacrifice. Abraham is not willing, he is dutiful.

The sacrifice of Issac was not a test of Abraham's faith, it was an example of God's great love that He would not demand such sacrifice. Child sacrifice was a very real ritual in other religions of the age.

So... you show your love for children through not demanding child sacrifice by demanding Abraham to sacrifice his child?

The point of the tale is that God is testing Abraham's willingness to follow God's will,but God having seen Abraham's willingness, therefore accomplishing what he had intended to, stops what would be an unnecessary death. Abraham needed not go any further as far as the cultural context of the time was concerned.

[Thessaca]

I don't believe nothing exploded into everything. Something had to cause the big bang.

Theory: many a gas comprised "something" which combined to create an explosion so massive as the big bang

[AETEN II]

I don't believe nothing exploded into everything. Something had to cause the big bang.

Actually, you can turn nothing into something. Vacuums have insane potential energy on the Quantum scale.

Also, there's numerous hypotheses/theories as to how our Universe came about, from a cycle of bangs and crunches (where the universe expands, implodes over and over in a process of billions of years or more), the multiverse, etc.

It's just that with our technology, it's hard to even make the calculations. Let alone our position- it's unlikely we'll ever truly know how the hell the process works simply because of the scale of how it operates.

[Individuality-ness]

So... you show your love for children through not demanding child sacrifice by demanding Abraham to sacrifice his child?

The point of the tale is that God is testing Abraham's willingness to follow God's will,but God having seen Abraham's willingness, therefore accomplishing what he had intended to, stops what would be an unnecessary death. Abraham needed not go any further as far as the cultural context of the time was concerned.

Yeah, I know. We went over this in Humanities.

[Byrondean]

Atheist since i was 9 old.

[The Drone Empire]

Atheist, as common sense would have it.

[Iuuvic]

So... you show your love for children through not demanding child sacrifice by demanding Abraham to sacrifice his child?

The point of the tale is that God is testing Abraham's willingness to follow God's will,but God having seen Abraham's willingness, therefore accomplishing what he had intended to, stops what would be an unnecessary death. Abraham needed not go any further as far as the cultural context of the time was concerned.

The point should be that a man supposedly was commanded to prove his obedience to his god through the sacrifice of his child...
I mean if you were to read a similar story in the paper today this would really sound like a man struggling with a dangerous mental illness.

[Cosara]

Theist

[Flaxxony-Setram]

I think you have to be skeptical of science and religion.

Obviously if something is proven you don't deny it because it is true. But sometimes science is wrong (think eugenics) and, contrary to popular belief, it doesn't always correct itself. In fact, you usually have to wait for a whole new generation if scientists to change the trend/consensus. "Science" isn't an integrated theory; it is just like religion and politics in the respect that there are thousands of viewpoints in flux ata time. So yeah, don't trust "science" because it is popular. See it for yourself.

Also, beware of academia and peer review. Many professors are bought off idiots that are paid to fabricate "science". My neighbor had a friend that worked for a company that wanted him to prove that the protein in their milkshakes was the best protein to use in bodybuilding. The guy found out that wasn't true at all, but when he went to publish the study they threatened to fire him and sue. No one would peer review it in the company because of the threat of job loss. Oh, and he spent 7 years on it.

As for me, I am an athiest by normal standards but I don't know enough about the world to make an educated opinion yet.

[Czechanada]

Abraham was dutiful to God, but he did care for Issac. It's not psychopathy. It's the fullest extension of Godliness. To give up what you consider most precious in your life to serve your God.

That Abraham was willing to do so is less important than that God stayed his hand.

No..it isn't. The fact that God is willing to demand child sacrifice as a test and that people are willing to do it should be terrifying, not inspiring.

You'd think that since God is omniscient, he'd already know the results of the test beforehand.

[Thessaca]

The point of the tale is that God is testing Abraham's willingness to follow God's will,but God having seen Abraham's willingness, therefore accomplishing what he had intended to, stops what would be an unnecessary death. Abraham needed not go any further as far as the cultural context of the time was concerned.

The point should be that a man supposedly was commanded to prove his obedience to his god through the sacrifice of his child...
I mean if you were to read a similar story in the paper today this would really sound like a man struggling with a dangerous mental illness.

Infanticide: the killing of your own child (Abraham, for example), somewhat considered genetic suicide (attempting to end your own bloodline and preventing your name from continuing), or it is the result of serious mental illness such as schizophrenia and depression

[Harkonna]

The point should be that a man supposedly was commanded to prove his obedience to his god through the sacrifice of his child...
I mean if you were to read a similar story in the paper today this would really sound like a man struggling with a dangerous mental illness.

Examination of the text itself, and extrapolation based on the numerous versions and authors of the particular story, suggest that in the original text, Abraham really did end up murdering and sacrificing his child to Yahweh. It was then edited out rather sloppily by later revisionists, as child sacrifice became more "risque" in more civilized, less tribal cultures.

[Swyftlandre]

I don't believe nothing exploded into everything. Something had to cause the big bang.

The thing that really ticks me off about this argument and probably made me decide I was Atheist all those years ago.

If a god caused the Big Bang then that's implication that God existed before the Big Bang to create Matter. The thing that contradicts this is that, at the end of the day, something had to cause God as well whether it be another god or natural causes there would still be the matter of working out their creation as well.

It seems so much more logical that in the Singularity, pressure caused an explosion of whatever 'gas' was in the Singularity. (Singularity implying a small point of matter in a probable empty area in a Multiverse (At least, this is the theory I follow) that implies some substance had to fill this area.)

[Jessjohnesik]

Imagine something in nothing. In comparison to nothing, something has SO MUCH FUCKING ENERGY. That's why it all got released and that's the big bang. But nothing living can ever understand how and why it happened, which is why i have no fucking idea what it looked like and what was before and etc. Time cannot be explained or measured. Hence the human mind is not eternal it cannot understand something that is. This doen't mean you need to make up a fairy tale and make a religion just to falsly satisfy your questions.

[Great Nepal]

I don't believe nothing exploded into everything. Something had to cause the big bang.

1. No, absolute vacuum is highly unstable.
2. Ignoring fact that you are wrong, how was this something that caused big bang created?

[Pensalum]

I myself am a Jedi, I follow the path of the force that flows through all things (just kidding)

[Czechanada]

It's good to hear that Christians put God first and humanity second.

Um, yeah. That's kind of the point.

God is sovereign over all things, humanity is flawed and lesser. Putting mankind before God is to fundamentally reject God in favour of sin.

So God can take care of his own business, then. Wouldn't it be better to focus on humanity since we are the ones with all the problems?

Human solutions to human problems.

[Myrensis]

The sacrifice of Issac was not a test of Abraham's faith, it was an example of God's great love that He would not demand such sacrifice. Child sacrifice was a very real ritual in other religions of the age.

So, if I'm to understand it, it goes like this:

God: I want you to sacrifice your child to me.

Abraham: Okay!

God: Whoa buddy!I was just messing with you! Aren't you glad I'm not that kind of God?

[Scomagia]

Apathetic agnostic.

[Myrensis]

I don't believe nothing exploded into everything. Something had to cause the big bang.

The thing that really ticks me off about this argument and probably made me decide I was Atheist all those years ago.

If a god caused the Big Bang then that's implication that God existed before the Big Bang to create Matter. The thing that contradicts this is that, at the end of the day, something had to cause God as well whether it be another god or natural causes there would still be the matter of working out their creation as well.

It seems so much more logical that in the Singularity, pressure caused an explosion of whatever 'gas' was in the Singularity. (Singularity implying a small point of matter in a probable empty area in a Multiverse (At least, this is the theory I follow) that implies some substance had to fill this area.)

It's just basic special pleading. "Everything had to have a cause!" "Okay, what caused God?" "God is magic! I win!"

[Luxembourgish Federal Republic]

Atheist, Agnostic, dunno somewhere between

[Sociobiology]

I don't believe nothing exploded into everything. Something had to cause the big bang.

The thing that really ticks me off about this argument and probably made me decide I was Atheist all those years ago.

If a god caused the Big Bang then that's implication that God existed before the Big Bang to create Matter. The thing that contradicts this is that, at the end of the day, something had to cause God as well whether it be another god or natural causes there would still be the matter of working out their creation as well.

Yeah you are basically left with either complex things don't need a outside cause or god needs an a outside cause.
So I like asking religious folk who their god's god is.

[Enadail]

Atheist, Agnostic, dunno somewhere between

Those two are not on the same line... you can be both agnostic and atheist, as I wager most atheists are. One is belief, one is knowledge.