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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:27 pm

Washington Examiner wrote:Bullet hits Lou Dobbs' NJ home with wife nearby

WANTAGE, N.J. — Police in New Jersey are trying to determine who fired a bullet that struck CNN commentator Lou Dobbs' home as his wife stood nearby.

State police Sgt. Stephen Jones says Dobbs' wife and driver were outside the home Oct. 5 when they heard the gunshot. Jones says the bullet didn't penetrate the siding and fell to the ground outside.

Dobbs mentioned the bullet earlier this week on CNN and his radio show.

Dobbs says he had been receiving threatening phone calls for weeks. On his radio show, he connected the gunshot to his advocacy for a crackdown on illegal immigration and to his opponents' rhetoric.

The home is on a farm in Wantage, about 50 miles northwest of New York City.

It is small-game hunting season, but no hunters were seen in the area.


So - has the radicalism of the liberal media stirred up sufficient hate that politically motivated leftwing gunmen are firing on prominent conservatives?
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:29 pm

People care enough about Lou Dobbs to shoot at him? :blink:

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:30 pm

It didn't penetrate the siding?!? What was the assassin using, a bb gun? :p
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Postby Bunyippie » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:31 pm

from the sounds of it, some idiot with a .22 was shooting too close to the house and booked it. (Because its a crime to shoot within X feet of a home)
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:33 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:It didn't penetrate the siding?!? What as the assassin using, a bb gun? :p

That wouldn't even pierce Dobbs' leathery hide.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:43 pm

Its disgusting if anyone uses violence against someone simply because of the political beliefs they express, however loathsome or stupid those beliefs are. I'm glad no one was hurt, and I hope that if this was deliberate or even the result of negligence, whoever is responsible is brought to Justice.

I also hope that those right-wingers who painted the dead Census worker, the abortion doctor shooting, etc as the result of isolated extremists won't turn around and paint all liberals as dangerous, violent extremists because of this. But they probably will.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:47 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:Its disgusting if anyone uses violence against someone simply because of the political beliefs they express, however loathsome or stupid those beliefs are. I'm glad no one was hurt, and I hope that if this was deliberate or even the result of negligence, whoever is responsible is brought to Justice.

I also hope that those right-wingers who painted the dead Census worker, the abortion doctor shooting, etc as the result of isolated extremists won't turn around and paint all liberals as dangerous, violent extremists because of this. But they probably will.

Agreed, however, I do doubt the authenticity of the "shooter" due to the aforementioned...

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Postby Hydesland » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:47 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:It didn't penetrate the siding?!? What was the assassin using, a bb gun? :p


I guess he just couldn't compromise on his anti-gun/pro gun control views. :lol:

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Postby Free-Beings » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:52 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:Its disgusting if anyone uses violence against someone simply because of the political beliefs they express, however loathsome or stupid those beliefs are. I'm glad no one was hurt, and I hope that if this was deliberate or even the result of negligence, whoever is responsible is brought to Justice.

I also hope that those right-wingers who painted the dead Census worker, the abortion doctor shooting, etc as the result of isolated extremists won't turn around and paint all liberals as dangerous, violent extremists because of this. But they probably will.


Where do you get that the census worker was killed by right-wing extremists?
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Postby Svenen (Ancient) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:52 pm

It's disgusting to use political beliefs against someone simply because of the violence they express. There are better, less clouding reasons, to defame this or that political leaning than individual violence.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:52 pm

Hydesland wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:It didn't penetrate the siding?!? What was the assassin using, a bb gun? :p


I guess he just couldn't compromise on his anti-gun/pro gun control views. :lol:

:rofl:

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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:53 pm

eh he survived to rant another day and ride into the sunset on a monster truck etc.

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:54 pm

Free-Beings wrote:Where do you get that the census worker was killed by right-wing extremists?


Given the context (such as the word "Fed" on the victim's chest) it seems rather likely, but I'll concede I can't prove it.
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Postby Chrobalta » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:54 pm

Maybe it was somebody who is offended by Dobb's constant raving on illegal immigrants.
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Postby Topid » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:54 pm

I think it's lucky that Glenn Beck, Rush, Sarah Palin, or Newt are still standing, but I'm equally surprised that Obama, Olberman, and all the other nutjobs on that side's hearts are still beating as well. The hate talk is getting worse than ever, and which ever side takes the first bullet is sitting pretty in 2012 with a martyr in their pocket.
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Postby Free-Beings » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:55 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Free-Beings wrote:Where do you get that the census worker was killed by right-wing extremists?


Given the context (such as the word "Fed" on the victim's chest) it seems rather likely, but I'll concede I can't prove it.


Last I heard, the consensus was that it was done by drug trafficker/dealers if i recall correctly.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:00 pm

Free-Beings wrote:Last I heard, the consensus was that it was done by drug trafficker/dealers if i recall correctly.


I've heard that one, but I don't think its a "consensus," outside of the far right anyway.

If you have a credible source in the media or law enforcement that says otherwise, please provide a link.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:00 pm

Topid wrote:I think it's lucky that Glenn Beck, Rush, Sarah Palin, or Newt are still standing, but I'm equally surprised that Obama, Olberman, and all the other nutjobs on that side's hearts are still beating as well. The hate talk is getting worse than ever, and which ever side takes the first bullet is sitting pretty in 2012 with a martyr in their pocket.

you mean they're of christian ideology?
(you know with a little figurine of jesus on his cross, tbh i don't think i would want to be remembered for the way i died. i mean if Jesus had suffocated to death under a bale of hay would they have a jesus suffocating under a big ball of hay?)

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Postby Intangelon » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:02 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Washington Examiner wrote:Bullet hits Lou Dobbs' NJ home with wife nearby

WANTAGE, N.J. — Police in New Jersey are trying to determine who fired a bullet that struck CNN commentator Lou Dobbs' home as his wife stood nearby.

State police Sgt. Stephen Jones says Dobbs' wife and driver were outside the home Oct. 5 when they heard the gunshot. Jones says the bullet didn't penetrate the siding and fell to the ground outside.

Dobbs mentioned the bullet earlier this week on CNN and his radio show.

Dobbs says he had been receiving threatening phone calls for weeks. On his radio show, he connected the gunshot to his advocacy for a crackdown on illegal immigration and to his opponents' rhetoric.

The home is on a farm in Wantage, about 50 miles northwest of New York City.

It is small-game hunting season, but no hunters were seen in the area.


So - has the radicalism of the liberal media stirred up sufficient hate that politically motivated leftwing gunmen are firing on prominent conservatives?

It's about time. The Right shouldn't have the monopoly on armed loons.
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Postby Intangelon » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:05 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Topid wrote:I think it's lucky that Glenn Beck, Rush, Sarah Palin, or Newt are still standing, but I'm equally surprised that Obama, Olberman, and all the other nutjobs on that side's hearts are still beating as well. The hate talk is getting worse than ever, and which ever side takes the first bullet is sitting pretty in 2012 with a martyr in their pocket.

you mean they're of christian ideology?
(you know with a little figurine of jesus on his cross, tbh i don't think i would want to be remembered for the way i died. i mean if Jesus had suffocated to death under a bale of hay would they have a jesus suffocating under a big ball of hay?)

Kinda like if people had walked up to Jackie Kennedy wearing rifle pendants. "Just thinking of John...". Love me, but not THAT much. You think when Jesus comes back he even wants to SEE a cross?
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Postby Brogavia » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:09 pm

Probably some Illegal Immigrant saw his show and got pissed off and shot at his house.

Or it was Ted Kenedy acting from beyond the grave...
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:10 pm

Intangelon wrote:It's about time. The Right shouldn't have the monopoly on armed loons.


I hope that was a bad joke. Because it reads like inciting violence and an endorsement of terrorism and murder as a political tool.

Assassination as a political tool is utterly unacceptable. And the last thing one should do is stoop to the level of their opponents.
"Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes" When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy." - President Abraham Lincoln.

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Postby Intangelon » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:14 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Intangelon wrote:It's about time. The Right shouldn't have the monopoly on armed loons.


I hope that was a bad joke. Because it reads like inciting violence and an endorsement of terrorism and murder as a political tool.

Assassination as a political tool is utterly unacceptable. And the last thing one should do is stoop to the level of their opponents.

I hope that was a bad joke.

Because it reads like inciting violence into a post that does no such thing, and an endorsement of knee-jerk reactionism and fake outrage as a debate tool.

Mock outrage as a debating tool is utterly unacceptable, and the last thing one should do is stoop to the level of one's oppo-

Oh.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:24 pm

Intangelon wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
Intangelon wrote:It's about time. The Right shouldn't have the monopoly on armed loons.


I hope that was a bad joke. Because it reads like inciting violence and an endorsement of terrorism and murder as a political tool.

Assassination as a political tool is utterly unacceptable. And the last thing one should do is stoop to the level of their opponents.

I hope that was a bad joke.

Because it reads like inciting violence into a post that does no such thing, and an endorsement of knee-jerk reactionism and fake outrage as a debate tool.


If I correctly interpret "It's about time. The Right shouldn't have the monopoly on armed loons." as meaning "It's about time we had a left wing terrorist. The left should have its own armed loons." then my complaints would be valid and my outrage most certainly sincere.

If it was intended as a joke, then I have no issue with it beyond considering it a bad joke, but I already accounted for that possibility in my last post.

Mock outrage as a debating tool is utterly unacceptable, and the last thing one should do is stoop to the level of one's oppo-

Oh.


A parrot can repeat someone's words back at them. You've elevated yourself to something a bit more complex. Now do you want to try for a serious post?

Edited post to be less nasty. I don't really want a fight.
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"Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes" When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy." - President Abraham Lincoln.

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Postby Bunyippie » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:33 pm

Intangelon wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Topid wrote:I think it's lucky that Glenn Beck, Rush, Sarah Palin, or Newt are still standing, but I'm equally surprised that Obama, Olberman, and all the other nutjobs on that side's hearts are still beating as well. The hate talk is getting worse than ever, and which ever side takes the first bullet is sitting pretty in 2012 with a martyr in their pocket.

you mean they're of christian ideology?
(you know with a little figurine of jesus on his cross, tbh i don't think i would want to be remembered for the way i died. i mean if Jesus had suffocated to death under a bale of hay would they have a jesus suffocating under a big ball of hay?)

Kinda like if people had walked up to Jackie Kennedy wearing rifle pendants. "Just thinking of John...". Love me, but not THAT much. You think when Jesus comes back he even wants to SEE a cross?

odds are, jesus who walked among the exiled, would be with the gays, and women.
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