A civilian weapon that apparently has not helped any law abiding citizen in the US in any way.
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by Liriena » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:06 am
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by Jentoan » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:06 am

by Sheltopolis » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:08 am
Liriena wrote:Conservative Idealism wrote:He said it, and I'm saying it. The past few presidents we've had are horrible - the last mediocre president we had was Clinton (more of a centrist than anything, astonishingly), and the last great president we had was Reagan. Obama and Bush have both been horribly wrong in thinking the government should spend any more than it already does - the federal budget must be strongly reconsidered and revised so that the people know what they're spending tax money on.
Yeah, Congress doesn't let much through conservative-wise anymore, what with all of the nominal-at-best Republicans and socialist-at-worst Democrats, so I'd say it's holding stuff up. Just look at the presidential administration - Obama might not look like much of a socialist (though I suspect he is), but the people he surrounds himself by are another matter.
If the current administration were, in any way, even remotely close to socialism, the state of labor laws would be quite different than it is today.
As for Reagan, remember that Reagan was the one that increased the debt at an absurd rate, increased overall spending with no justification or need, committed and promoted international law and human rights violations, and stood by while the early AIDS epidemic wiped out countless innocent gays and African Americans.

by Yes Im Biop » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:08 am
Liriena wrote:Wesibaden wrote:Let us not forget the democrats / Congress were the ones who forced banks to give out loans to people who could not pay them back
Also trying to disarm American Citizens from owning AR-15's which is a Civilian weapon
A civilian weapon that apparently has not helped any law abiding citizen in the US in any way.
[violet] wrote:Urggg... trawling through ads looking for roman orgies...
Idaho Conservatives wrote:FST creates a half-assed thread, goes on his same old feminist rant, and it turns into a thirty page dogpile in under twenty four hours. Just another day on NSG.
Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)

by Free Detroit » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:08 am
The Holy Roman Reich wrote:Politicians like Obama and "Republicans" like Bush and are holding the US back. This country needs less government and less taxes. America's problem isn't that the government isn't getting enough tax revenue, it's the fact that the money it gets through tax revenue is mismanaged. Currently, I think what's holding back the US is Congress and their inability to hold up the Constitution and a presidential administration that is hell bent on turning the US into a socialist "paradise".


by Liriena » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:10 am
Jentoan wrote:lower taxes (only for the wealthy), less spending (except in the military), and less government intervention in the free market (except for unnecessary subsidies for big corporations)
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by Sheltopolis » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:11 am
Liriena wrote:Jentoan wrote:lower taxes (only for the wealthy), less spending (except in the military), and less government intervention in the free market (except for unnecessary subsidies for big corporations)
Fixed.
And, again...their alleged economic ideals have been proven to be detrimental to an economy in times of crisis.

by Liriena » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:12 am
Sheltopolis wrote:Liriena wrote:
If the current administration were, in any way, even remotely close to socialism, the state of labor laws would be quite different than it is today.
As for Reagan, remember that Reagan was the one that increased the debt at an absurd rate, increased overall spending with no justification or need, committed and promoted international law and human rights violations, and stood by while the early AIDS epidemic wiped out countless innocent gays and African Americans.
Reagan is the reason the Cold War ended when it did. So yes, the spending did have justification.
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by Liriena » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:12 am
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by Yes Im Biop » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:14 am
[violet] wrote:Urggg... trawling through ads looking for roman orgies...
Idaho Conservatives wrote:FST creates a half-assed thread, goes on his same old feminist rant, and it turns into a thirty page dogpile in under twenty four hours. Just another day on NSG.
Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)

by Liriena » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:14 am
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by Free Detroit » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:15 am
Sheltopolis wrote:Reagan is the reason the Cold War ended when it did. So yes, the spending did have justification.

by Idaho Conservatives » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:16 am

by Wesibaden » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:17 am

by Unchecked Expansion » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:18 am
Liriena wrote:Not really. The increased military spending was minimal compared to the rest of the increased spending. And since the USSR itself did not react, spending-wise, to Reagan's increased military spending in any way, one could argue that Reagan's policies really didn't do much for the fall of the USSR.

by Frisivisia » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:19 am
Wesibaden wrote:Frisivisia wrote:Source, and source.
My guess is you hardly ever watch congress live?? http://www.c-span.org/ you can actually tell by cspan that House is doing more good then the senete its quite sad really
As for the AR-15 it is a civilian version of the M-16 not one military force on this planet uses it
And it is not a Assault rifle the AR stands for ArmaLite rifle http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01 ... demonized/ I also happened to purchase a AR-15 back in Feb 2012

by Sheltopolis » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:19 am
Liriena wrote:Sheltopolis wrote:
Republicans do not advocate for increasing taxes on the poor/middle class. I don't even know how liberals/democrats/progressivists get such ideas.
Did I say Republicans increased taxes on the poor/middle class? No.
But you cannot deny that the Republicans have made it their duty in life to ensure that the weight of the nation's necessities rests mostly on the shoulders of the poor and the middle class, and that the wealthiest get exempted from contributing much to the development of the nation.

by Liriena » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:19 am
Wesibaden wrote:Frisivisia wrote:Source, and source.
My guess is you hardly ever watch congress live?? http://www.c-span.org/ you can actually tell by cspan that House is doing more good then the senete its quite sad really
As for the AR-15 it is a civilian version of the M-16 not one military force on this planet uses it
And it is not a Assault rifle the AR stands for ArmaLite rifle http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01 ... demonized/ I also happened to purchase a AR-15 back in Feb 2012
Seriously? I'm going to read it anyway...but...the Blaze? The only "news" source in the world that was willing to hire Glenn Beck?| I am: A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist An aspiring writer and journalist | Political compass stuff: Economic Left/Right: -8.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92 For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism, cynicism ⚧Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧ |

by Frisivisia » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:21 am
Sheltopolis wrote:Liriena wrote:
Did I say Republicans increased taxes on the poor/middle class? No.
But you cannot deny that the Republicans have made it their duty in life to ensure that the weight of the nation's necessities rests mostly on the shoulders of the poor and the middle class, and that the wealthiest get exempted from contributing much to the development of the nation.
-Yes, I won't deny they fight to keep taxes the same for everyone
-However, it is not true Republicans want the nation's necessities to rest on the poor and middle class. When you want lower government spending (as Republicans do), there is no need for the weight to be put on the poor and middle class

by Sheltopolis » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:22 am
Frisivisia wrote:Sheltopolis wrote:
-Yes, I won't deny they fight to keep taxes the same for everyone
-However, it is not true Republicans want the nation's necessities to rest on the poor and middle class. When you want lower government spending (as Republicans do), there is no need for the weight to be put on the poor and middle class
Why is it that you want less spending? What good does that do?

by Liriena » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:22 am
Sheltopolis wrote:Liriena wrote:
Did I say Republicans increased taxes on the poor/middle class? No.
But you cannot deny that the Republicans have made it their duty in life to ensure that the weight of the nation's necessities rests mostly on the shoulders of the poor and the middle class, and that the wealthiest get exempted from contributing much to the development of the nation.
1) Yes, I won't deny they fight to keep taxes the same for everyone
2) However, it is not true Republicans want the nation's necessities to rest on the poor and middle class. When you want lower government spending (as Republicans do), there is no need for the weight to be put on the poor and middle class
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by Frisivisia » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:23 am

by Wesibaden » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:23 am
Frisivisia wrote:Wesibaden wrote:My guess is you hardly ever watch congress live?? http://www.c-span.org/ you can actually tell by cspan that House is doing more good then the senete its quite sad really
As for the AR-15 it is a civilian version of the M-16 not one military force on this planet uses it
And it is not a Assault rifle the AR stands for ArmaLite rifle http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01 ... demonized/ I also happened to purchase a AR-15 back in Feb 2012
You still haven't provided a source for your claims that "democrats / Congress were the ones who forced banks to give out loans to people who could not pay them back" and that the democrats are "Also trying to disarm American Citizens from owning AR-15's which is a Civilian weapon".
have you been living under a rock?? AR-15 is on the ban list and as for Democrats / Congress that happened to be one of the video on Cspan
by Frisivisia » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:24 am
Wesibaden wrote:Frisivisia wrote:You still haven't provided a source for your claims that "democrats / Congress were the ones who forced banks to give out loans to people who could not pay them back" and that the democrats are "Also trying to disarm American Citizens from owning AR-15's which is a Civilian weapon".
have you been living under a rock?? AR-15 is on the ban list and as for Democrats / Congress that happened to be one of the video on Cspan

by Liriena » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:24 am
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