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Are the Republicans holding back the social and economic progress of the United States?

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Trotskylvania
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Postby Trotskylvania » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:39 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Missing the point yet again, huh?


You can't call the Tea Partiers 'racist" when the Democrats are equally as racist.

Oh darn......someone remind me, "It's not racism when black people do it...."

The problem is that you think that "cracker" (being called a slave foreman) or "whitey" is in anyway comparable to the legacy of racial domination inherent in the word "nigger". If you're called any of these things for not supporting Obama, it's probably the way you went about it. If indeed it happened at all.
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The New Sea Territory
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:40 pm

Die Oranje-Vrystaat wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:Then you haven't been paying attention for the past few years

As for my own experiences, they are irrelevant. But let's get one thing straight: I live in rural Montana, where there are no shortage of Tea Partiers of all kinds: NWO conspiracy theorists, birthers, Ron Paul goldbugs, "concerned citizens", Militia movement and "second amendment solution" types, and people who use "nigger" in casual conversation.


That's cool, I've always liked Montana. Not everyone there is racist, second amendment types aren't bad people, as far as I'm concerned, and militia activity isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's just a bunch of guys who get together, shoot guns and pretty much do legal legitimate stuff. As far as my experience. I'm sorry you hate rural Montana so bad. I liked Montana.


*Liberalspeak-*

Oh, mane...they just som razizt azzholes!

*Translation*

They are just a bunch of racist, hateful, oppressive white nationalists with big scary guns. And they don't like Obama. That's racism!
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The New Sea Territory
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:41 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
You can't call the Tea Partiers 'racist" when the Democrats are equally as racist.

Oh darn......someone remind me, "It's not racism when black people do it...."

The problem is that you think that "cracker" (being called a slave foreman) or "whitey" is in anyway comparable to the legacy of racial domination inherent in the word "nigger". If you're called any of these things for not supporting Obama, it's probably the way you went about it. If indeed it happened at all.


Yes it has, on multiple occasions.

I'm not saying that any racist slurs are more profound than others, I'm just pointing out that everyone talks about whites hating blacks, and no one looks at the flip side.
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Postby Valtakuntia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:42 pm

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:No it's the US problem of only 2 parties.

And also Republicans elect the wrong candidates like Mitt Romney. They should choose candidates that are equal too great Republican presidents like Ronald Reagan.

If Republicans want to win the Elections in 2016 they need a wider support more than just White People.


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Lemanrussland
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Postby Lemanrussland » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:42 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
You can't call the Tea Partiers 'racist" when the Democrats are equally as racist.

Oh darn......someone remind me, "It's not racism when black people do it...."

The problem is that you think that "cracker" (being called a slave foreman) or "whitey" is in anyway comparable to the legacy of racial domination inherent in the word "nigger". If you're called any of these things for not supporting Obama, it's probably the way you went about it. If indeed it happened at all.

Cracker hurts my feelings though :(

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Postby Trotskylvania » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:42 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Missing the point yet again, huh?


No, Mavorpen. You missed the point. Racism, in the modern sense, is defined as: White Supremacy, Nazis, Republicans and the KKK. But, If I do remember correctly, the Black Panthers were not considered a terrorist group? But the KKK is.

Modern society never stops black-on-white racism, because it's "ok". Where if a white man said "White Power", he'd be sued. That's racism. Stop supporting racism. Stop supporting Democrats.

Racism wasn't a major issue until Democrats used BO's "race" (he is white, legally) as a weapon.

Which Black Panther's are you talking about? The original group, which were most definitely treated as terrorists up to the moment they chose to voluntarily disband, having achieved a point where they considered themselves no longer necessary? Or the modern "New Black Panthers", which are disavowed by members of the original party, and classified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group?

Most importantly, groups like the New Black Panthers are actively opposed by the Democratic Party, and have no sympathy with their aims.
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Postby Die Oranje-Vrystaat » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:44 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
You can't call the Tea Partiers 'racist" when the Democrats are equally as racist.

Oh darn......someone remind me, "It's not racism when black people do it...."

The problem is that you think that "cracker" (being called a slave foreman) or "whitey" is in anyway comparable to the legacy of racial domination inherent in the word "nigger". If you're called any of these things for not supporting Obama, it's probably the way you went about it. If indeed it happened at all.


There really aren't many African Americans here. I guess that's why there aren't so many racists. But seriously Trotskylvania, are you serious that you believe NWO theorists and racists are the Tea Party's core? Sure it's easy to judge a few people that you consider Tea Partiers (who probably aren't) where you live to be representative of all Tea Partiers?
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:45 pm

Die Oranje-Vrystaat wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The problem is that you think that "cracker" (being called a slave foreman) or "whitey" is in anyway comparable to the legacy of racial domination inherent in the word "nigger". If you're called any of these things for not supporting Obama, it's probably the way you went about it. If indeed it happened at all.


There really aren't many African Americans here. I guess that's why there aren't so many racists.

That was unnecessarily rude.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:46 pm

Valtakuntia wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:No it's the US problem of only 2 parties.

And also Republicans elect the wrong candidates like Mitt Romney. They should choose candidates that are equal too great Republican presidents like Ronald Reagan.

If Republicans want to win the Elections in 2016 they need a wider support more than just White People.


xkcd.

http://xkcd.com/661/

Funny, but the two party system is a serious problem, it stifles democracy quite a lot and makes the vast majority of people unhappy. The reason it's there is because our voting system is quite old and outdated (hardly surprising for the country with the oldest Constitution still in force in the world). If we switched off of "first past the post" for something more modern like mixed member proportional representation (what the Federal Republic of Germany uses), we would have more political diversity in this country.

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Postby Alekera » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:46 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Die Oranje-Vrystaat wrote:
There really aren't many African Americans here. I guess that's why there aren't so many racists.

That was unnecessarily rude.


But what if it true? just sayin..... :meh:

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:47 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Valtakuntia wrote:
xkcd.

http://xkcd.com/661/

Funny, but the two party system is a serious problem, it stifles democracy quite a lot and makes the vast majority of people unhappy. The reason it's there is because our voting system is quite old and outdated (hardly surprising for the country with the oldest Constitution still in force in the world). If we switched off of "first past the post" for something more modern like mixed member proportional representation (what the Federal Republic of Germany uses), we would have more political diversity in this country.

That's nice. What are you doing to make that happen? It'll take work and new laws in the states.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:47 pm

Alekera wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That was unnecessarily rude.


But what if it true? just sayin..... :meh:

That African Americans tend to be racists, and their small numbers here is the reason we don't see more overt racism?
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Postby Die Oranje-Vrystaat » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:49 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Die Oranje-Vrystaat wrote:
There really aren't many African Americans here. I guess that's why there aren't so many racists.

That was unnecessarily rude.


What? Why would racism occur where there aren't other races? In the South, particularly Alabama, is where I see racism occur. Why? Because there are minorities. I'm not saying racism is good but why else would it occur somewhere else, rather than somewhere where there are minorities. Might not have worded it the best way, but I had no intention of being rude.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:49 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Lemanrussland wrote:Funny, but the two party system is a serious problem, it stifles democracy quite a lot and makes the vast majority of people unhappy. The reason it's there is because our voting system is quite old and outdated (hardly surprising for the country with the oldest Constitution still in force in the world). If we switched off of "first past the post" for something more modern like mixed member proportional representation (what the Federal Republic of Germany uses), we would have more political diversity in this country.

That's nice. What are you doing to make that happen? It'll take work and new laws in the states.

I've written to my state Senators and local Congressman about it, but got no reply. I could do more, but I'm not much of a political activist.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:50 pm

Die Oranje-Vrystaat wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That was unnecessarily rude.


What? Why would racism occur where there aren't other races? In the South, particularly Alabama, is where I see racism occur. Why? Because there are minorities. I'm not saying racism is good but why else would it occur somewhere else, rather than somewhere where there are minorities. Might not have worded it the best way, but I had no intention of being rude.

Yes, I believe I misunderstood you.
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Postby Die Oranje-Vrystaat » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Alekera wrote:
But what if it true? just sayin..... :meh:

That African Americans tend to be racists, and their small numbers here is the reason we don't see more overt racism?


Who said African Americans are all racist?
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:50 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That's nice. What are you doing to make that happen? It'll take work and new laws in the states.

I've written to my state Senators and local Congressman about it, but got no reply. I could do more, but I'm not much of a political activist.

So you're giving up? I don't want to see you complaining about the political system ever again. *makes a note on a hand-held device* Ever.
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Postby Latonos » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:51 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Alekera wrote:
But what if it true? just sayin..... :meh:

That African Americans tend to be racists, and their small numbers here is the reason we don't see more overt racism?


I think he was making the notion that white members would be racist to the black ones, not that black members are racist.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:51 pm

Die Oranje-Vrystaat wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That African Americans tend to be racists, and their small numbers here is the reason we don't see more overt racism?


Who said African Americans are all racist?

No one, I misunderstood your post.
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Postby Alekera » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:53 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Alekera wrote:
But what if it true? just sayin..... :meh:

That African Americans tend to be racists, and their small numbers here is the reason we don't see more overt racism?


Oh, i thought he was saying 'the reason why there are few [white] racists here is because there are few black Americans here'...

I think I may have walked into the wrong part of this conversation.... :unsure:

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Postby Die Oranje-Vrystaat » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:54 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Die Oranje-Vrystaat wrote:
Who said African Americans are all racist?

No one, I misunderstood your post.


I'm not saying black people or white people are inherently racist. The blacks I do know are good people, ironically they're Republicans.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:54 pm

Alekera wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That African Americans tend to be racists, and their small numbers here is the reason we don't see more overt racism?


Oh, i thought he was saying 'the reason why there are few [white] racists here is because there are few black Americans here'...

I think I may have walked into the wrong part of this conversation.... :unsure:

Since I've already apologized twice, yes, I think you have.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:55 pm

Die Oranje-Vrystaat wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:No one, I misunderstood your post.


I'm not saying black people or white people are inherently racist. The blacks I do know are good people, ironically they're Republicans.

You could have just said, "Oh, okay, no worries." :roll:
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Postby Die Oranje-Vrystaat » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:55 pm

Alekera wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That African Americans tend to be racists, and their small numbers here is the reason we don't see more overt racism?


Oh, i thought he was saying 'the reason why there are few [white] racists here is because there are few black Americans here'...

I think I may have walked into the wrong part of this conversation.... :unsure:


No, I was saying, that discrimination against minorities is proportional to their presence in a certain area.
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Postby Die Oranje-Vrystaat » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:57 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Die Oranje-Vrystaat wrote:
I'm not saying black people or white people are inherently racist. The blacks I do know are good people, ironically they're Republicans.

You could have just said, "Oh, okay, no worries." :roll:


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