Are Republicans holding the US back?

[Latonos]

In a (slowly) modernising world,
Where Homosexuals can join in Marriage,
Where Mothers can choose to be Mothers,
Where Socialism is slowly becoming more popular, and people are slowly becoming tolerant of one another,
a country far away on distant shores is being held back by a group of child like adults where they refuse to just accept the future for what it is, for what it means...
Instead, they continue to argue against change, against the future.
Oh, they aren't alone in this conflict, but that will wait until another day.

The country?
The United States of America.
The group?
The Republicans (What a broad term. Let's stick with it for now)

WARNING: Moderately Long Read for some people ahead

The Republican Party of the United States of America is one of the most intolerant, ignorant and rather laughable political parties on the face of this planet, only because they are so well recognised by the international community for being so very thick.

It is an argument that the Republican Party is the cause for the United States' Debt Crisis, where overspending has led to a large debt crisis on the United States which people (Guess who?) blame the current President, Barrack Hussein Obama, for.
This is far, far from the truth.
The crises can be attributed to a large number of factors, primarily the bad Economic situation across the planet, US Congress and previous Presidents.
Let's start with US Congress.
For those of you that have at least a tiny bit of knowledge in US Politics, you'll know it isn't the President who assigns the budget directly.
It's the US Congress.^{A simple way to explain it.}
Lately, US Congress has been getting a little bit cocky with their budget allocation, and have started to WAY overspend the money they actually have to spend.
To those of you who are lost, I'm basically going over how Congress is OVERSPENDING US Income.
When the US Government Overspends, then basically it has to borrow money to get straight and not run out of money.
This creates Debt.
The Debt the US is infamous for.
The Debt that is ruining the US Economy.
And although the President can suggest budgets, they can be edited or scrapped entirely so that the congress can write a new one.
This creates an interesting problem in US politics, because the debt crisis can be blamed on the US President.

The following below is a bit crackpotty, you are free to ignore it:
It is possible that, since Congress is only slightly majority Republican, that they can purposely put out 'bad' budgets just so they can pin the blame on the president later, adding to their glorious bubble world that "LOL demicratz cant run an economy".


Socially, Republicans hate anyone that isn't a Republican for any reason.
Though I am a firm believer in state rights, RELIGION shouldn't be the leading cause of Homophobia in politics.
Really now, who are you to mix Religion and Politics!? Two things that SHOULDN'T BE MIXED. EVER.

Outright banning Gay Marriage because "it goes against my slightly dodgy, holy text that ONLY ON VERY RARE OCCASIONS Contradicts itself because of mistranslation and added information" is simply put, rather... ... what's a better word for stupid?
In a world that is emerging as tolerant 'peaceful' (LOL, why is that in there?) nationstates (I'm bad at puns) and gay people can join in state approved marriage, why must you deny them these rights?
How does this affect you in any way at all?
They're not FORCING heterosexual men to marry them...

Another argument against Gay Marriage is "letting two men (why is it always men... *sigh*) marry is like a man marrying a *Inset object, animal or child*".
First of all, the two men in question are consenting, loving adults.
Secondly, you're replacing the second consenting adult with something that cannot give consent; ie: A toaster.
Something that cannot possibly give consent, despite being a living thing, ie: A dog.
And finally, something that can give consent, but cannot fully think out the consequences because they are not mature, a child.

where 2 start dat:
2 Consenting Men (or Woman) =/= 1 Consenting Man (or Woman), and something that cannot give consent.
I'd like to finish this badly constructed point by saying something I've said before, "How does this affect you in any way".

The same goes to Abortion.
Reading a thread five minutes before that had a "unreliable republican source" (Cough cough, guess...) that said that woman was 'nearly killed' after not given anesthetic for an abortion in a Planned Parenthood Clinic in some other US State, I saw right through this for what it really was:
An article of a small, over exaggerated event made exaggerated to make people angry.

Really now, there is little evidence to support the foetus as a 'living, thinking creature' the GOP and other like minded people make it out to be.
Really, it is half the mother's DNA, and half of the father's. A collection of Cells building and arranging themselves, preparing for Birth.
People asking "What if you were/going to be aborted! How would you feel!?"
This is how I always, forever will respond:

"I wouldn't be alive to complain."

It just doesn't make sense to me.
Why (and HOW) Republicans are against Abortion.
If a women can't have a baby, as in can't afford it or cannot have it without medical problems, then shouldn't be allowed to 'opt' out?
I mean, if a women is threatened by her pregnancy, is she not ENTITLED to have an abortion to save her life?
I can think of one recent case in Ireland where this has happened.
It could possibly happen in the United States.

What if she's a rape victim?
How would the child grow up psychologically, knowing it was a rape child?
How would the child feel if they found this out on their own after a coverup since birth!?
How would the mother afford this child is she's POOR!?

There. Not only are the Republicans holding the US back socially, they have no care in the world for people who cannot live up to their standards.

Another thing - Republicans act like this is COMPULSORY, not a choice.
Let's finish this once and for all, shall we?

Gay Marriage - Not Compulsory, a Choice.
Abortion - Not Compulsory, a Choice.
Euthanasia - Not Compulsory, a Choice.

Let's clear up some Right Wing clutter while we're here...

Sexuality - Not a choice.
Gender - Not a choice.
Pregnancy (from Rape or any other occasion you don't intentionally conceive) - Not a choice.
Other peoples actions upon you - Not a choice...

Republicans need to understand this. Sometimes, I think they don't.
Once we put these pesky social problems behind us, we can move forward as a society and actually focus on what is important right now:
- The Economy,
- Medical Technologies,
- Agriculture Technologies,
- The Debt Problem...
- DPRK

Inside the spoiler, you'll find:
A poorly constructed argument that states that the Republicans are holding the US back Socially, Economically.
If I could word things properly, I would be a much more effective speaker.


So, NS, I'm presuming you already have a political bias against the GOP, my question to you is this...
Is the Republican Party holding the United States back from progression into a better world?

Poll included for your enjoyment.

[Ostroeuropa]

Yes, and the tories are holding back the UK.

[Ermarian]

Yes, but shifting demographics will render their efforts futile within the next few years.

[Grassroots (Ancient)]

Yes. Holy freaking yes.

[Ashmoria]

(pretending that they are conservative)

its what conservatives do.

[The Spiral Future]

Essentially yes......since they are conservative party they conserve things.

Surprise

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Where Mothers can choose to be Mothers...

Hooray for murdering babies! Or, as the liberals call it, 'the right to a woman's body' [is to be able to murder a baby].

[Duvniask]

Seems pretty apparent, that they are.

[Nidaria]

They are holding the U.S. back, but not in the way you specified. The Republicans are helping to break the country through quarrelling, corruption, and intervention overseas. However, the Democrats (like liberals in other countries) are attempting to throw their nation down into a precipice of immorality and death, with no apparent way to escape. It is in times like these I am proud to be a reactionary, stepping back into safety instead of running forward off a cliff.

[Communist Wollongong]

Yes and No. The two party idea is ruining America. They need more third party candidates. A lot of Americans either run towards the left or the right.

[Thafoo]

Yes and no. We need balance in the U.S. no matter how idiotic the GOP is. But they are keeping the country in a bad social and economic sphere.

[Ifreann]

Yes, and the tories are holding back the UK.

Isn't that kinda the point of conservative political parties?

[Duvniask]

Yes, and the tories are holding back the UK.

Isn't that kinda the point of conservative political parties?

Yes, and they almost always favor conservation of the worst elements of society.

[Thafoo]

Isn't that kinda the point of conservative political parties?

Yes, and they almost always favor conservation of the worst elements of society.

"Jack the Ripper wasn't all that bad!"

[Wallonochia]

Essentially yes......since they are conservative party they conserve things.

Surprise

Most factions in the GOP are not conservative. Conservatives want to push the brakes in the car of state but the Republicans want to put it in R and push the gas pedal through the floor boards.

[Paupa-Moresby]

(The GOP does not signify balance. It is the only political party of its kind in the entirety of the developed that is that radical. I might be able to accept the Tories of Canada or the UK as a balancing force, but, by Jove, not the GOP.)

While I don't necessarily concur with the statement that it is the GOP's fault there is such overspending... One of their few redeeming qualities is that they adhere to some tenants of libertarianism, which is an ideology I can at least accept the validity of, even if I don't adhere to it. But, then, what you stated was that it was a poorly organized argument, and, in any case, I largely agree with you.

The GOP's social stances are incredibly, depressingly abhorrent While I don't necessarily concur with the statement that it is the GOP's fault there is such overspending... One of their few redeeming qualities is that they adhere to some tenants of libertarianism, which is an ideology I can at least accept the validity of, even if I don't adhere to it. But, then, what you stated was that it was a poorly organized argument, and, in any case, I largely agree with you.

The GOP's social stances are incredibly, depressingly abhorrent.

[Communist Wollongong]

Isn't that kinda the point of conservative political parties?

Yes, and they almost always favor conservation of the worst elements of society.

They appeal to conservative voters. If Republican Party did go liberal, conservatives would vote for Herman Cain's third party option.

[Ifreann]

They are holding the U.S. back, but not in the way you specified. The Republicans are helping to break the country through quarrelling, corruption, and intervention overseas. However, the Democrats (like liberals in other countries) are attempting to throw their nation down into a precipice of immorality and death, with no apparent way to escape. It is in times like these I am proud to be a reactionary, stepping back into safety instead of running forward off a cliff.

I expect I'd be as well arguing with the wall, but surely you can accept that people who disagree with you aren't actively trying to destroy the US, right?

[Corvus Metallum]

My very short (and possibly bad) counter argument

1.While yes the Republicans are slowing down the nation socially, economically, they have the right idea. Spending cuts save money, not higher taxes.

2.Sexuality IS A choice, one that I don't like, but am willing to accept and let them have the option to marry or not.

3.Obama may not have that much control over the budget, but he needs to grow some balls and push the budget through, edited or not.

End of short, bad, counter argument.

[Fessleria]

Where Socialism is slowly becoming more popular

And where stupid people think that Socialism might even have the smallest chance of working!

[Afalia]

Scarily so. What is it about US conservatives? British and Canadian Conservatives are almost the complete opposite. Darn American Exceptionalism I suppose.

[Unchecked Expansion]

They are holding the U.S. back, but not in the way you specified. The Republicans are helping to break the country through quarrelling, corruption, and intervention overseas.

Are you saying quarrelling and corruption are good things?

[Thafoo]

My very short (and possibly bad) counter argument

1.While yes the Republicans are slowing down the nation socially, economically, they have the right idea. Spending cuts save money, not higher taxes.

2.Sexuality IS A choice, one that I don't like, but am willing to accept and let them have the option to marry or not.

3.Obama may not have that much control over the budget, but he needs to grow some balls and push the budget through, edited or not.

End of short, bad, counter argument.

sexuality is not a goddamn choice

[Nidaria]

They are holding the U.S. back, but not in the way you specified. The Republicans are helping to break the country through quarrelling, corruption, and intervention overseas. However, the Democrats (like liberals in other countries) are attempting to throw their nation down into a precipice of immorality and death, with no apparent way to escape. It is in times like these I am proud to be a reactionary, stepping back into safety instead of running forward off a cliff.

I expect I'd be as well arguing with the wall, but surely you can accept that people who disagree with you aren't actively trying to destroy the US, right?

I realize that. Obviously that is not their intention, I was simply stating the predicted result.

[Alexander Sothis]

I answered yes and no, because Yes for Social Progress and no for Economic Progress.

Many democrats prefer the Republican model of government (smaller, spend less, tax less), if only the latest round of Republican would actually abide by their own platform in that aspect.