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Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:08 pm**

You dispute the existence of gender as a social construct?

Also re: chromosomes, I'm really not seeing your point's relevance.

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:37 pm**

Individuality-ness wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:Take all the people of the world. Scatter them across a Gaussian distribution. Everyone within 2σ of the mean is normal.

Stats nerd.

(Is it bad that I understood that?)

You're Asian and autistic, it would be a miracle if you didn't understand it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:39 pm**

Xathranaar wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Stats nerd.

(Is it bad that I understood that?)

You're Asian and autistic, it would be a miracle if you didn't understand it.

Touche.

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:39 pm**

Individuality-ness wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:You're Asian and autistic, it would be a miracle if you didn't understand it.

Touche.

You're Autasian?

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:59 pm**

Coccygia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Haven't you heard about X0, XXY, etc.

I have indeed but these are pretty rare conditions, and have little relevance overall...just trying to keep to the main point.

Here's the question though. Why do you think that gender identity is somehow determined by chromosomes or sexual organs?

Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:
Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:?

In chase if anyone asks, this is my opinion.

Wow. A question mark. That really says a lot.

(in case you didn't pick up on the sarcasm, it tells us nothing.)

Coccygia wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:

Stop being terrible at basic high school biology.

In mammals the chromosomes pretty much determine the gonadal & phenotype sex, whether anyone knows about them or not. The cultural thing is exactly what I somewhat dispute.

There IS a difference between sex and gender, if that's what you're trying to say. The very fact that trans* people exist back it up. Also, CAIS women. If sex were truly gender, then they'd all identify as male.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:03 am**

The Emerald Dawn wrote:Triple X

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:06 am**

They are gross, disgusting, beautiful, cool, smelly, rude, kind, and thoughtful people. They also are great for surprising your drunken friends when they try and take them to bed. They also have strange voices.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:32 am**

Defensor wrote:They are gross, disgusting, beautiful, cool, smelly, rude, kind, and thoughtful people. They also are great for surprising your drunken friends when they try and take them to bed. They also have strange voices.

The myth that you're only disclosing when you're in bed with them is tired and needs to stop right about now.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:40 am**

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Defensor wrote:They are gross, disgusting, beautiful, cool, smelly, rude, kind, and thoughtful people. They also are great for surprising your drunken friends when they try and take them to bed. They also have strange voices.

The myth that you're only disclosing when you're in bed with them is tired and needs to stop right about now.

You mad bro?

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:41 am**

Defensor wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
The myth that you're only disclosing when you're in bed with them is tired and needs to stop right about now.

You mad bro?

Frankly? Yes, I am, because it's an asinine statement that has no bearing in fact, and significantly contributes to a decidedly negative perception of transgender people.

So stop it.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:43 am**

Defensor wrote:They are gross, disgusting, beautiful, cool, smelly, rude, kind, and thoughtful people. They also are great for surprising your drunken friends when they try and take them to bed. They also have strange voices.

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Defensor wrote:They are gross, disgusting, beautiful, cool, smelly, rude, kind, and thoughtful people. They also are great for surprising your drunken friends when they try and take them to bed. They also have strange voices.

The myth that you're only disclosing when you're in bed with them is tired and needs to stop right about now.

Nah, it needs to stop yesterday.

Defensor wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
The myth that you're only disclosing when you're in bed with them is tired and needs to stop right about now.

You mad bro?

I ain't even mad.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:49 am**

Defensor wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
The myth that you're only disclosing when you're in bed with them is tired and needs to stop right about now.

You mad bro?

When I establish my Reich, people who use this phrase will be the first to go. Along with NASCAR fans, and anyone who has ever actively initiated a high-five.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:52 am**

Defensor wrote:They also are great for surprising your drunken friends when they try and take them to bed.

this is a great way of getting people killed just sayin'

They also have strange voices.

i dunno, transmen seem to have awesome voices. fucking testosterone.

Xathranaar wrote:
Defensor wrote:You mad bro?

When I establish my Reich, people who use this phrase will be the first to go. Along with NASCAR fans, and anyone who has ever actively initiated a high-five.

did you just paraphrase charlie brooker

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:53 am**

Souseiseki wrote:
Defensor wrote:They also are great for surprising your drunken friends when they try and take them to bed.

this is a great way of getting people killed just sayin'

They also have strange voices.

i dunno, transmen seem to have awesome voices. fucking testosterone.

Xathranaar wrote:When I establish my Reich, people who use this phrase will be the first to go. Along with NASCAR fans, and anyone who has ever actively initiated a high-five.

did you just paraphrase charlie brooker

Did I? I would be enormously pleased if I did.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:54 am**

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Defensor wrote:You mad bro?

Frankly? Yes, I am, because it's an asinine statement that has no bearing in fact, and significantly contributes to a decidedly negative perception of transgender people.

So stop it.

Idk man, changing your parts out just seems...unnatural...

I honestly can't think of anything positive concerning transgendersto be honest. Sorry :meh:

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:01 am**

Defensor wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Frankly? Yes, I am, because it's an asinine statement that has no bearing in fact, and significantly contributes to a decidedly negative perception of transgender people.

So stop it.

Idk man, changing your parts out just seems...unnatural...

I honestly can't think of anything positive concerning transgendersto be honest. Sorry

Can you think of anything negative?

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:04 am**

Defensor wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Frankly? Yes, I am, because it's an asinine statement that has no bearing in fact, and significantly contributes to a decidedly negative perception of transgender people.

So stop it.

Idk man, changing your parts out just seems...unnatural...

I honestly can't think of anything positive concerning transgendersto be honest. Sorry

"If you have nothing positive to say, best remain silent."

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:07 am**

Suicune wrote:
Defensor wrote:Idk man, changing your parts out just seems...unnatural...

I honestly can't think of anything positive concerning transgendersto be honest. Sorry

Can you think of anything negative?

Yeah, they're a transgeneder? Meaning he was a male but is now a female? Even though there are clearly parts of his/it's body that are not natural. So in essence, he's still not a female, just fucking kind of looks like one from a distance. I find that negative, disgusting, and just plain old weird.

I'm not saying I hate they guy, he/she whatever is probably a cool...whatever...but that doesn't mean it's a natural or a "right" thing to do, so to say.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:07 am**

Defensor wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Frankly? Yes, I am, because it's an asinine statement that has no bearing in fact, and significantly contributes to a decidedly negative perception of transgender people.

So stop it.

Idk man, changing your parts out just seems...unnatural...

I honestly can't think of anything positive concerning transgendersto be honest. Sorry

First off, changing your 'parts' isn't always a part of being transgender.

Secondly fuck nature.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:07 am**

Immoren wrote:
Defensor wrote:Idk man, changing your parts out just seems...unnatural...

I honestly can't think of anything positive concerning transgendersto be honest. Sorry

"If you have nothing positive to say, best remain silent."

This is true Immoren

Ty!

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Defensor wrote:Idk man, changing your parts out just seems...unnatural...

I honestly can't think of anything positive concerning transgendersto be honest. Sorry

First off, changing your 'parts' isn't always a part of being transgender.

Secondly fuck nature.

I mean, what's to say that I can't go "Well, I really feel like I should've been a dog. Doctor, make me into a female dog!" While I know not all transgenders require "parts swapping", it still is weird changing who you are.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:11 am**

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Defensor wrote:Idk man, changing your parts out just seems...unnatural...

I honestly can't think of anything positive concerning transgendersto be honest. Sorry

First off, changing your 'parts' isn't always a part of being transgender.

Secondly fuck nature.

Nature. From the people who brought you Yersinia pestis and aging.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:14 am**

Defensor wrote:
Immoren wrote:"If you have nothing positive to say, best remain silent."

This is true Immoren Ty!

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
First off, changing your 'parts' isn't always a part of being transgender.

Secondly fuck nature.

I mean, what's to say that I can't go "Well, I really feel like I should've been a dog. Doctor, make me into a female dog!" While I know not all transgenders require "parts swapping", it still is weird changing who you are.

So do you also have a problem with breast enlargements/reductions? What about nose jobs? Or heck, tanning?
All are changes to parts of your body after all....

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:15 am**

Defensor wrote:I mean, what's to say that I can't go "Well, I really feel like I should've been a dog. Doctor, make me into a female dog!" While I know not all transgenders require "parts swapping", it still is weird changing who you are.

Gender/sex=/=species.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:16 am**

Pillea wrote:
Defensor wrote:This is true Immoren Ty!

I mean, what's to say that I can't go "Well, I really feel like I should've been a dog. Doctor, make me into a female dog!" While I know not all transgenders require "parts swapping", it still is weird changing who you are.

So do you also have a problem with breast enlargements/reductions? What about nose jobs? Or heck, tanning?
All are changes to parts of your body after all....

I wouldn't say problem, but I don't that's natural either. I mean, if the future is "let's all just make ourselves be whoever we wanna be through science", then I'm not in. Just doesn't sit right with me. But you know, it's whatever. People will do what they will.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:17 am**

Immoren wrote:
Defensor wrote:I mean, what's to say that I can't go "Well, I really feel like I should've been a dog. Doctor, make me into a female dog!" While I know not all transgenders require "parts swapping", it still is weird changing who you are.

Gender/sex=/=species.

I know, just, over dramatizing

Sorry!

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