Your opinion of transgender people

[Reggae Magmia]

What is "cisgender"?

Those whose gender conforms to their sex.

What is "cisgender"?

The opposite of transgender; someone whose gender identity is the same as their assigned biological sex at birth.

Ah, I'm 'cisgender' then...

Thank you both.

[Desperate Measures]

It's really interchangeable, too.

It's a crime against dessert.
It's a crime against inert gasses.
It's a crime against cats.

Crime against pudding?

Most things are.

[Immoren]

Term Cisgendered reminds me of cispolymers from high school chmistry. I am not sure if that's good or not.

[Saiwania]

I'm cisgender and I only recognize two genders, male and female. I also don't recognize sex changes as being genuine if the person was born male or female. It is something that is as permanent as the race you are born into.

[Desperate Measures]

I'm cisgender and I only recognize two genders, male and female. I also don't recognize sex changes as being genuine if the person was born male or female. It is something that is as permanent as the race you are born into.

Are you familiar with the fluid gender theory? Is this just personal opinion or do you support laws discriminating against the transgendered community?

[Immoren]

I'm cisgender and I only recognize two genders, male and female. I also don't recognize sex changes as being genuine if the person was born male or female. It is something that is as permanent as the race you are born into.

That's nice sweetie.

[Souseiseki]

I'm cisgender and I only recognize two genders, male and female. I also don't recognize sex changes as being genuine if the person was born male or female. It is something that is as permanent as the race you are born into.

[Saiwania]

Are you familiar with the fluid gender theory? Is this just personal opinion or do you support laws discriminating against the transgendered community?

I'm not, but I don't support transgender people being persecuted by the legal system. I think they should have the same rights as other people, but I recognize that my rejection of fully accepting them personally; might be de facto prejudice on my part. But oh well, I think that even without my approval, they can live good lives.

*picture of Michael Jackson*

But... that was Michael Jackson! He was one of a kind and his changing skin color was a fluke. Surely that doesn't count?

[Skogland (Ancient)]

I'm cisgender and I only recognize two genders, male and female. I also don't recognize sex changes as being genuine if the person was born male or female. It is something that is as permanent as the race you are born into.

Yup, nose surgeries and changes in skin tone change everything.

[Desperate Measures]

Are you familiar with the fluid gender theory? Is this just personal opinion or do you support laws discriminating against the transgendered community?

I'm not, but I don't support transgender people being persecuted by the legal system. I think they should have the same rights as other people, but I recognize that my rejection of fully accepting them personally; might be de facto prejudice on my part. But oh well, I think that even without my approval, they can live good lives.

I hope someone can change your mind but otherwise totally fine.

[Skogland (Ancient)]

I'm not, but I don't support transgender people being persecuted by the legal system. I think they should have the same rights as other people, but I recognize that my rejection of fully accepting them personally; might be de facto prejudice on my part. But oh well, I think that even without my approval, they can live good lives.

I hope someone can change your mind but otherwise totally fine.

Could you enlighten me about the fluid gender theory?

[Wind in the Willows]

Deleted.

[Desperate Measures]

I hope someone can change your mind but otherwise totally fine.

Could you enlighten me about the fluid gender theory?

This does a pretty good job as a broad overview.

"Genderqueer (GQ; alternatively non-binary) is a catch-all category for gender identities other than man and woman, thus outside of the gender binary and cisnormativity.[1] People who identify as genderqueer may think of themselves as one or more of the following:

having an overlap of, or blurred lines between, gender identity and sexual and romantic orientation.[2][3]
both man and woman (bigender, trigender, pangender);
neither man nor woman (nongendered, genderless, agender);
moving between genders (genderfluid);[4]
third gender or other-gendered; includes those who do not place a name to their gender;[5]

Some genderqueer people[6][7] also desire physical modification or hormones to suit their preferred expression. Many genderqueer people see gender and sex as separable aspects of a person and sometimes identify as a male woman, a female man, or a male/female/intersex genderqueer person.[8] Gender identity is defined as one's internal sense of being a woman, man, both, or neither, while sexual identity refers to an individual's enduring physical, romantic, and/or emotional attraction to others.[7] As such, genderqueer people may have a variety of sexual orientations, as with transgender and cisgender people.[9]

In addition to being an umbrella term, genderqueer has been used as an adjective to refer to any people who transgress distinctions of gender, regardless of their self-defined gender identity, i.e. those who "queer" gender, expressing it non-normatively.[10] Androgynous is frequently used as a descriptive term for people in this category, though genderqueer people may express a combination of masculinity and femininity, or neither, in their gender expression and not all identify as androgynous. However, the term has been applied by those describing what they see as a gender ambiguity.[11]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer

[Ploon (Ancient)]

I find the human brain to be fascinating. It's amazing how different we all are.

[Desperate Measures]

I find the human brain to be fascinating. It's amazing how different we all are.

It's a shame some are afraid to celebrate that.

[Skogland (Ancient)]

Could you enlighten me about the fluid gender theory?

This does a pretty good job as a broad overview.

"Genderqueer (GQ; alternatively non-binary) is a catch-all category for gender identities other than man and woman, thus outside of the gender binary and cisnormativity.[1] People who identify as genderqueer may think of themselves as one or more of the following:

having an overlap of, or blurred lines between, gender identity and sexual and romantic orientation.[2][3]
both man and woman (bigender, trigender, pangender);
neither man nor woman (nongendered, genderless, agender);
moving between genders (genderfluid);[4]
third gender or other-gendered; includes those who do not place a name to their gender;[5]

Some genderqueer people[6][7] also desire physical modification or hormones to suit their preferred expression. Many genderqueer people see gender and sex as separable aspects of a person and sometimes identify as a male woman, a female man, or a male/female/intersex genderqueer person.[8] Gender identity is defined as one's internal sense of being a woman, man, both, or neither, while sexual identity refers to an individual's enduring physical, romantic, and/or emotional attraction to others.[7] As such, genderqueer people may have a variety of sexual orientations, as with transgender and cisgender people.[9]

In addition to being an umbrella term, genderqueer has been used as an adjective to refer to any people who transgress distinctions of gender, regardless of their self-defined gender identity, i.e. those who "queer" gender, expressing it non-normatively.[10] Androgynous is frequently used as a descriptive term for people in this category, though genderqueer people may express a combination of masculinity and femininity, or neither, in their gender expression and not all identify as androgynous. However, the term has been applied by those describing what they see as a gender ambiguity.[11]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer

That was pretty confusing for me. I'll have to read more on this. Where is the scientific backing?
What do you personally think about the following words: demisexual, polyromantic, neutrois (femme presenting)

[Ploon (Ancient)]

I find the human brain to be fascinating. It's amazing how different we all are.

It's a shame some are afraid to celebrate that.

Exactly.

[Immoren]

I find the human brain to be fascinating. It's amazing how different we all are.

It's a shame some are afraid to celebrate that.

I'll drink to that.

[Ploon (Ancient)]

It's a shame some are afraid to celebrate that.

I'll drink to that.

*Raises glass*

[The Daktanese Technocracy]

I'm cisgender and I only recognize two genders, male and female. I also don't recognize sex changes as being genuine if the person was born male or female. It is something that is as permanent as the race you are born into.

* Michael Jackson*

This is perhaps the funniest thing I've seen on these forums

[Desperate Measures]

This does a pretty good job as a broad overview.

"Genderqueer (GQ; alternatively non-binary) is a catch-all category for gender identities other than man and woman, thus outside of the gender binary and cisnormativity.[1] People who identify as genderqueer may think of themselves as one or more of the following:

having an overlap of, or blurred lines between, gender identity and sexual and romantic orientation.[2][3]
both man and woman (bigender, trigender, pangender);
neither man nor woman (nongendered, genderless, agender);
moving between genders (genderfluid);[4]
third gender or other-gendered; includes those who do not place a name to their gender;[5]

Some genderqueer people[6][7] also desire physical modification or hormones to suit their preferred expression. Many genderqueer people see gender and sex as separable aspects of a person and sometimes identify as a male woman, a female man, or a male/female/intersex genderqueer person.[8] Gender identity is defined as one's internal sense of being a woman, man, both, or neither, while sexual identity refers to an individual's enduring physical, romantic, and/or emotional attraction to others.[7] As such, genderqueer people may have a variety of sexual orientations, as with transgender and cisgender people.[9]

In addition to being an umbrella term, genderqueer has been used as an adjective to refer to any people who transgress distinctions of gender, regardless of their self-defined gender identity, i.e. those who "queer" gender, expressing it non-normatively.[10] Androgynous is frequently used as a descriptive term for people in this category, though genderqueer people may express a combination of masculinity and femininity, or neither, in their gender expression and not all identify as androgynous. However, the term has been applied by those describing what they see as a gender ambiguity.[11]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer

That was pretty confusing for me. I'll have to read more on this. Where is the scientific backing?
What do you personally think about the following words: demisexual, polyromantic, neutrois (femme presenting)

There are a lot of sources on the bottom of that wiki. Kate Bornstein is an excellent resource. There is a large output of genderqueer theory out there.

I'm in a polyromantic relationship. I get kind of bogged down by all the different terms and subterms but as far as what those stand for - it is all good.

[Dumb Ideologies]

One day I will finally stick on a fixed gender identity. Then I shall be unstoppable.

[Desperate Measures]

One day I will finally stick on a fixed gender identity. Then I shall be unstoppable.

I get the feeling it's too much fun to do something as boring as that.

[Ikea]

I'm cisgender and I only recognize two genders, male and female. I also don't recognize sex changes as being genuine if the person was born male or female. It is something that is as permanent as the race you are born into.

As a complete transsexual, I'd like to ask if trying to be who you be on the outside who you are on the inside (man feels like a woman, vice-versa) is wrong. Nobody, at least nobody I've come in to contact to since my change, has noticed. Does that make me better or worse than other people?

Comparing gender to race is two completely different things. One is about identity through gender roles, the other is about identity through culture.

[Virgo]

I believe transgender people should have the same freedoms of everyone else. I have nothing against gays, it is hard though to keep up with the changing labels and having to keep up with the different terms. There are only 2 genders because a man cannot have a baby. Anything that can is a female. It is fine for equal rights and marriage for transgenders but recognizing multiple new genders gets into controversial/gray area and does not have enough scientific backing to verify. One is either male or female based on reproductive parts.