Your opinion of transgender people

by **Tennliness** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:03 pm

Ploon wrote:
Tennliness wrote:
Soap? Here in manly manland, we don't bathe! We're far too manly for it.

More women for me

All the women in manly manland do as the manly men say. For we are manly man.

...okay, I'm just a tad bored of the joke, now. I'm beating a dead horse :unsure:

by **Immoren** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:04 pm

Tennliness wrote:
Ploon wrote:
You stay in manly manland where there is only men. But remember this, Chicks dig me because I rarely wear underwear and when I do, it's usually something exotic.

Here in manly manland, we all go commando.

Here's my phone number. *nudgenudgewinkwink*

by **Tennliness** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:05 pm

Immoren wrote:
Tennliness wrote:
Here in manly manland, we all go commando.

Here's my phone number. *nudgenudgewinkwink*

Well, I can't deny such a gracious offer~

by **Eleutheria** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:07 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Eleutheria wrote:
That is very very interesting. But as far as I can tell that only applies to one neurological difference which is white matter and not grey matter (which men have more of), the corpus callosum which is bigger in women and allows trans-hemispheric data transfer, or the sheer size of the brain (10% bigger in men) or the fact that those with female brains will always have greater cellular connections and be better communicators as a result of that and their greater integration of the right-hemisphere. Those are the things that make the biggest difference in how the genders think.

So the whole white matter microstructure seems a bit paltry in light of the other differences, in my opinion.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19341803

this one is slightly less conclusive

Results revealed that regional gray matter variation in MTF transsexuals is more similar to the pattern found in men than in women. However, MTF transsexuals show a significantly larger volume of regional gray matter in the right putamen compared to men. These findings provide new evidence that transsexualism is associated with distinct cerebral pattern, which supports the assumption that brain anatomy plays a role in gender identity.

so the grey matter is also affected, and since you were talking about the right-side of the brain it seemed relevant

Well that one interests me a lot more than the one you previously cited, as though the right putamen exhibits more grey matter than in men the amount of grey matter is on par with men instead of women. This suggest a neurological configuration different to both men and women (though still closer to the original biological gender). This suggest that transgender people should be viewed, neurologically speaking, as a different gender or as a mutation of the original one. However this makes me slightly reserved about celebrating transgender operations if they have an impact like that on the brain which hasn't really be quantified or studied yet. Who knows what adverse effects could result from someone's brain chemistry and structure being re-written that late into their adulthood. It could be very dangerous.

by **Mariopolis** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:07 pm

They are a crime against humanity.

by **The Daktanese Technocracy** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:08 pm

Mariopolis wrote:They are a crime against humanity.

Well that escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand fast!

by **Nadkor** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:13 pm

Mariopolis wrote:They are a crime against humanity.

Hmmm...

"crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:

(a) Murder;
(b) Extermination;
(c) Enslavement;
(d) Deportation or forcible transfer of population;
(e) Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of fundamental rules of international law;
(f) Torture;
(g) Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity;
(h) Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court;
(i) Enforced disappearance of persons;
(j) The crime of apartheid;
(k) Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health;

Nope, sorry.

by **Desperate Measures** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:15 pm

Mariopolis wrote:They are a crime against humanity.

Why?

by **Risottia** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:54 pm

Azande wrote:
Tsuntion wrote:
When someone is born as the wrong sex, meaning that their sex does not always line up with their gender.

But if you're born with either male or female sex organs, how do those parts not make you a member of that gender?

Gender =/= sex.

by **Threlizdun** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:54 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Mariopolis wrote:They are a crime against humanity.

Why?

Because they don't like them, and the world should be subjected to their bigotry.

by **Vareiln** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:56 pm

I support transgender rights. Whether I'm supportive of an individual transgender depends entirely on that individual, as I do with everyone else in this world.

by **Nailed to the Perch** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:57 pm

Cessa wrote:I'm a little confused. I was under the impression that there were only two genders, and transgenders were people who switched either male-to-female or female-to-male (and in my opinion there's no problem with that). Call me an ignorant old fool if you will, but could someone please explain what the other genders are? Thanks.

These links might help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender

by **Desperate Measures** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:02 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:Why?

Because they don't like them, and the world should be subjected to their bigotry.

I keep hoping for some new and fun and hopefully involving space pigs.

by **Immoren** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:03 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Mariopolis wrote:They are a crime against humanity.

Why?

Because people like being melodramatic and/or hammy.

by **The Steel Magnolia** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:05 pm

Well this thread will be interesting.

by **Immoren** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:06 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:Well this thread will be interesting.

It hasn't already been?

by **The Steel Magnolia** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:10 pm

Mariopolis wrote:They are a crime against humanity.

Oh I missed this gem.

by **Immoren** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:12 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Mariopolis wrote:They are a crime against humanity.

Oh I missed this gem.

People like to be overdramatic, don't they sweetie?

by **Desperate Measures** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:14 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Mariopolis wrote:They are a crime against humanity.

Oh I missed this gem.

It's really interchangeable, too.

It's a crime against dessert.
It's a crime against inert gasses.
It's a crime against cats.

by **Harkonna** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:20 pm

As a transgendered individual, I think I'm pretty neat. Oh, and other people who are also transgender(ed) are neat too.

by **Immoren** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:20 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Oh I missed this gem.

It's really interchangeable, too.

It's a crime against dessert.
It's a crime against inert gasses.
It's a crime against cats.

Crime against pudding?

by **Reggae Magmia** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:21 pm

What is "cisgender"?

My opinion of transgender people is that they are people, and should be treated as such. Simple as that really.

by **Threlizdun** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:22 pm

Reggae Magmia wrote:What is "cisgender"?

Those whose gender conforms to their sex.

by **Nailed to the Perch** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:23 pm

Reggae Magmia wrote:What is "cisgender"?

The opposite of transgender; someone whose gender identity is the same as their assigned biological sex at birth.

by **Ploon (Ancient)** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:24 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Reggae Magmia wrote:What is "cisgender"?

The opposite of transgender; someone whose gender identity is the same as their assigned biological sex at birth.

Wow I never knew that. I learn something new each day.

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