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Cisgender, supportive of trans* people, recognize only two genders
112
21%
Cisgender, supportive of trans* people, recognize more than two genders
200
37%
Cisgender, unsupportive of trans* people
115
21%
Cisgender, indifferent
62
11%
Transgender, recognize only two genders
10
2%
Transgender, recognize more than two genders
47
9%
 
Total votes : 546

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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:10 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Sentinel Optik wrote:This is true, and it makes me resist equality for the transgenders. I do not want my normality marginalized. I am open to the legality of surgeries and whatnot and I might even be alright with TG's trying to fight for dignity. However, don't pretend that I am something less than normal. It's like how the Aspies refer to people like me as "neurotypical" as opposed to just being normal and not having an autism spectrum mental disorder.

... so people who are trans* are not "normal"? Define "normal".


Take all the people of the world. Scatter them across a Gaussian distribution. Everyone within 2σ of the mean is normal.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:11 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:... so people who are trans* are not "normal"? Define "normal".

Take all the people of the world. Scatter them across a Gaussian distribution. Everyone within 2σ of the mean is normal.

Stats nerd. :P

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Postby Olthar » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:48 am

Not at all. I hate them; I hate every one of them.

...

Oh, wait. No. That's the wrong word, sorry. Your English ways are so strange to me.
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:52 am

I only know one, and she is cool people.
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Postby Olthar » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:53 am

Big Jim P wrote:I only know one, and she is cool people.

Thank you. :)
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Postby Immoren » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:56 am

Olthar wrote:Not at all. I hate them; I hate every one of them.

...

Oh, wait. No. That's the wrong word, sorry. Your English ways are so strange to me.

Silly woman.

Big Jim P wrote:I only know one, and she is cool people.

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Postby Veceria » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:58 am

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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:59 am

Olthar wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:I only know one, and she is cool people.

Thank you. :)


OK, I am assuming I need to make that two (same cool factor), but I was talking IRL.
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Postby Olthar » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:07 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Olthar wrote:Thank you. :)


OK, I am assuming I need to make that two (same cool factor), but I was talking IRL.

"IRL?" What is that? Are you talking about that mythical "Real Life" that I sometimes hear people mention? Sorry, I'm an arealist. I don't believe in meatspace.
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:10 am

Olthar wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
OK, I am assuming I need to make that two (same cool factor), but I was talking IRL.

"IRL?" What is that? Are you talking about that mythical "Real Life" that I sometimes hear people mention? Sorry, I'm an arealist. I don't believe in meatspace.


LOL. I have an aunt, that had I married a few years earlier would have been an uncle. Sarah is cool people. So is her wife.
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Postby Immoren » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:11 am

Olthar wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
OK, I am assuming I need to make that two (same cool factor), but I was talking IRL.

"IRL?" What is that? Are you talking about that mythical "Real Life" that I sometimes hear people mention? Sorry, I'm an arealist. I don't believe in meatspace.

Mmm... Meatspace... *drools*
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:11 am

Sentinel Optik wrote:
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This is true, and it makes me resist equality for the transgenders. I do not want my normality marginalized. I am open to the legality of surgeries and whatnot and I might even be alright with TG's trying to fight for dignity. However, don't pretend that I am something less than normal. It's like how the Aspies refer to people like me as "neurotypical" as opposed to just being normal and not having an autism spectrum mental disorder.

sorry i can't help but read this as they're calling my brain typical instead of normal, why won't they think about how i feel, i want to be normal unlike them!
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:12 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Sentinel Optik wrote:
This is true, and it makes me resist equality for the transgenders. I do not want my normality marginalized. I am open to the legality of surgeries and whatnot and I might even be alright with TG's trying to fight for dignity. However, don't pretend that I am something less than normal. It's like how the Aspies refer to people like me as "neurotypical" as opposed to just being normal and not having an autism spectrum mental disorder.

sorry i can't help but read this as they're calling my brain typical instead of normal, why won't they think about how i feel, i want to be normal unlike them!


Ho about just redefining normal?
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Postby Olthar » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:17 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Olthar wrote:"IRL?" What is that? Are you talking about that mythical "Real Life" that I sometimes hear people mention? Sorry, I'm an arealist. I don't believe in meatspace.


LOL. I have an aunt, that had I married a few years earlier would have been an uncle. Sarah is cool people. So is her wife.

Ooo! Lesbians! Awesome. 8)
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:31 am

Olthar wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
LOL. I have an aunt, that had I married a few years earlier would have been an uncle. Sarah is cool people. So is her wife.

Ooo! Lesbians! Awesome. 8)


Really, I do not know. I know a relationship survived a very serious change, and for that, I gotta give some respect.

THAT is love. Demonstrated and lived.
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Postby Olthar » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:38 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Olthar wrote:Ooo! Lesbians! Awesome. 8)


Really, I do not know. I know a relationship survived a very serious change, and for that, I gotta give some respect.

THAT is love. Demonstrated and lived.

So she was in the relationship before her transition? And the other woman stuck with it? Wow. That's dedication worthy of respect and admiration. :bow:
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:03 pm

Olthar wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Really, I do not know. I know a relationship survived a very serious change, and for that, I gotta give some respect.

THAT is love. Demonstrated and lived.

So she was in the relationship before her transition? And the other woman stuck with it? Wow. That's dedication worthy of respect and admiration. :bow:


Indeed.

:clap: Good on both of them.
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Postby YellowApple » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:10 pm

Immoren wrote:
Olthar wrote:"IRL?" What is that? Are you talking about that mythical "Real Life" that I sometimes hear people mention? Sorry, I'm an arealist. I don't believe in meatspace.

Mmm... Meatspace... *drools*


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Postby Vareiln » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:11 pm

Olthar wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Really, I do not know. I know a relationship survived a very serious change, and for that, I gotta give some respect.

THAT is love. Demonstrated and lived.

So she was in the relationship before her transition? And the other woman stuck with it? Wow. That's dedication worthy of respect and admiration. :bow:

Indeed, they must truly love each other.

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Postby Immoren » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:17 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Immoren wrote:Mmm... Meatspace... *drools*


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Get ya mind outta gutter YA. Meatspace's obviously a name of some butcher's store. :p
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Postby Central European Commonwealth » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:45 pm

100% indifferent. Will refuse to have an opinion about anything but "people". Anyone in my opinion that works to limit anyone's civil rights, or acts to make anyone's life difficult because they feel "threatened" - due to someone's way of living their life the way they please needs to fucking grow up.
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Postby Wamitoria » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:49 pm

They're people. Assuming that a trans* person was nice to me I would not have a problem with them at all.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:50 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:Take all the people of the world. Scatter them across a Gaussian distribution. Everyone within 2σ of the mean is normal.

Stats nerd. :P

(Is it bad that I understood that?)


No.
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Postby Elmo Logic » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:53 pm

Despite saying in the last thread that I wouldn't have a relationship with a transgender person myself. I see no reason to stop other people if that's what they want to do. (Beyond the usual age and mental capacity restrictions)

I think that puts me in the indifferent category

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Postby Genericangst » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:56 pm

Transgender people are as awesome or terrible as the person you're talking about. I have had many awesome trans friends, but I know there are also nuts like JDR out there. But I can say the same if I omitted the prefix "trans" and just said people.
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