Your opinion of transgender people

[The Blaatschapen]

Where is the option for less than two genders?

One gender to rule them all?

In my defense, my dangly bits are preciousssss.

[Ostroeuropa]

If you think the entire concept of masculinity and femininity is bullshit from the get go you can't really believe in gender. At least that definition of it.
If you mean gender/sex then sure. I recognize more than two.


By this definition I can't be cisgender either.



The key word being acceptance. I don't accept that those categories have any real baring on identity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_abolitionism

I am physically a male. I wouldn't consider myself male gendered in anything but the physical sense. If anything I have more traditional feminine characteristics. If by gender identity you mean "Do you feel ok with having a penis or would you prefer not to?" then it seems like nobody should really care and it's down to whatever the individual wants to do. It's their body. It seems like a lot of effort to go through but then it doesn't really bother me, I suppose if it did I would get it changed. If someone were to tell me they were a transsexual my response would be "Ok." while privately thinking "So what?" which would be my same response if someone angrily declared "That person is a transsexual!" though it that case i'd add "Why do you care exactly?"

I understood, the phrase just entered my head and I had to type it and it wasn't meant to mean anything that wasn't lighthearted.

Ah, sorry. I just thought i'd clarify.
Secretly ofcourse there is one gender to rule them all, and it is Womale. All of our political leaders are womales, they just pretend to be various other genders.

[Scholencia]

is this because they always make it fun or because you think they're freaks

It is because, it is funny.

[Souseiseki]

is this because they always make it fun or because you think they're freaks

It is because, it is funny.

it is? how so? o:

[Autismiah]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

[Heinzinton]

I'm personally cisgendered, but I am supportive of trans* individuals. I think that gender is largely a social construct, but with roots in evolutionary biology that lend it some legitimacy. Thus, I think there are two concrete genders, and a lot of gray area in-between.

[Souseiseki]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

so you want us to find a transgender person and know them well enough to know the intimate details of their childhood but not know them well enough to be their friends is what you're saying here

[Scholencia]

It is because, it is funny.

it is? how so? o:

It makes such a visual effect, besides carnival is the only time I have a chance to see them. I am sorry if my opinion offends your feelings.

[Ostroeuropa]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

Two google searches later.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_ ... d_theories

[Souseiseki]

it is? how so? o:

It makes such a visual effect, besides carnival is the only time I have a chance to see them. I am sorry if my opinion offends your feelings.

i can't tell if your opinion offends me feelings because i can hardly even figure out what it is

[Pillea]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

Me absolutely is applicable in this instance. You said find you one.
I am one. I had a relatively happy childhood, my parents are to this day happily married and involved in my life as much as I allow them. I never had some major childhood crisis that scarred nor marred me. I just am who I am, and that me happens to suffer from major dysphoria due to a lack of similarity in my anatomy and gender. The scientific community is also changing its mind on this, it's not classified as such in the new DSM 5 standards. Don't forget, homosexuality was once a mental illness....

[Ostroeuropa]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

Me absolutely is applicable in this instance. You said find you one.
I am one. I had a relatively happy childhood, my parents are to this day happily married and involved in my life as much as I allow them. I never had some major childhood crisis that scarred nor marred me. I just am who I am, and that me happens to suffer from major dysphoria due to a lack of similarity in my anatomy and gender. The scientific community is also changing its mind on this, it's not classified as such in the new DSM 5 standards. Don't forget, homosexuality was once a mental illness....

It typically goes:
"Possessed by demons"
->
"Mental illness"
->
"Has psychological triggers." (Like your favourite colour, incidentally. But we don't round up the damn mauvists just because they are minority...Even if liking mauve as a color is far more debilitating to your sanity and health than being a transgender person)
->
"Sometimes has psychological triggers, sometimes biological in origin."

[Scholencia]

It makes such a visual effect, besides carnival is the only time I have a chance to see them. I am sorry if my opinion offends your feelings.

i can't tell if your opinion offends me feelings because i can hardly even figure out what it is

I can tell you but I might become a warning. So, better not. Besides, I understand if you as a transgender want to be accept in the society, it is just that there is some limits of normal.

[Desperate Measures]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

I don't think you'll accept any response.

[Ifreann]

Me absolutely is applicable in this instance. You said find you one.
I am one. I had a relatively happy childhood, my parents are to this day happily married and involved in my life as much as I allow them. I never had some major childhood crisis that scarred nor marred me. I just am who I am, and that me happens to suffer from major dysphoria due to a lack of similarity in my anatomy and gender. The scientific community is also changing its mind on this, it's not classified as such in the new DSM 5 standards. Don't forget, homosexuality was once a mental illness....

It typically goes:
"Possessed by demons"
->
"Mental illness"
->
"Has psychological triggers." (Like your favourite colour, incidentally. But we don't round up the damn mauvists just because they are minority...Even if liking mauve as a color is far more debilitating to your sanity and health than being a transgender person)
->
"Sometimes has psychological triggers, sometimes biological in origin."

I could easily believe that most of the transpeople I know are possessed by demons.

[Central Slavia]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

This.
I am supportive of them getting treatment and whatever, even up to reassignment surgery on the state's funds, but there's two genders, and that's it. Anything else is a very,very minor percentage of cases, and definite anomalies that don't have a place in the definition of normal, much like people born with excess limbs don't make us define that a healthy person has "two hands but sometimes three".

[Immoren]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

This.
I am supportive of them getting treatment and whatever, even up to reassignment surgery on the state's funds, but there's two genders, and that's it. Anything else is a very,very minor percentage of cases, and definite anomalies that don't have a place in the definition of normal, much like people born with excess limbs don't make us define that a healthy person has "two hands but sometimes three".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gend ... _societies

[Anarcho-Leftist States of Horseflip]

Oh, I do.

Well then we're done here, brah. We're playing two different games with an irreconcilable difference in the goals. Moreover, most of the rest of your last post was simply a leaning back on the points you have made before, giving me the feeling that they were the big guns with which my mind was supposed to be changed. The fact that your arguments come from feeling and empathy based roots which you wholeheartedly and unabashedly proclaim in good faith in order to argue for state intervention is simply the opposite of my libertarian argument with, perhaps mildly worded for how you might view it, a more hard-nosed view.

Godspeed, comrade.

[Linux and the X]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

This.
I am supportive of them getting treatment and whatever, even up to reassignment surgery on the state's funds, but there's two genders, and that's it. Anything else is a very,very minor percentage of cases, and definite anomalies that don't have a place in the definition of normal, much like people born with excess limbs don't make us define that a healthy person has "two hands but sometimes three".

"[Transgender people] may describe their gender identity in specific terms such as transgender, bigender, or genderqueer, affirming their unique experiences that may transcend a male/female binary understanding of gender." (WPATH Standards of Care v7, p. 9)

"Mental health professionals should not impose a binary view of gender." (WPATH Standards of Care v7, p. 16)

"Gender is not as simple as 'this or that'. [...] There are not two distinct genders." (Carothers, B.J. and Reis, H.T. (2013) Men and women are from Earth: Examining the latent structure of gender. J Pers & Soc Psych, 104(2), 385-407. doi:10.1037/a0030437)

[Desperate Measures]

I honestly don't think that the crux of the transgender issue is sexual reassignment surgery funded by the state and it's kind of annoying that that is such a main argument here. Maybe I'm wrong. Paying for the surgery is an issue and so is the question of whether it should be covered under insurance plans or under public healthcare but I feel like that should be separate from acceptance of transgendered individuals in society.

[Cuba Liberty]

To be or not to be ? That is NOT the question, But rather a choice that clearly must be your own. Respecting the rights of others ,Is the only clear road to peace.

[Oneracon]

I honestly don't think that the crux of the transgender issue is sexual reassignment surgery funded by the state and it's kind of annoying that that is such a main argument here. Maybe I'm wrong. Paying for the surgery is an issue and so is the question of whether it should be covered under insurance plans or under public healthcare but I feel like that should be separate from acceptance of transgendered individuals in society.

Especially since being trans =/= wanting SRS

[Desperate Measures]

I honestly don't think that the crux of the transgender issue is sexual reassignment surgery funded by the state and it's kind of annoying that that is such a main argument here. Maybe I'm wrong. Paying for the surgery is an issue and so is the question of whether it should be covered under insurance plans or under public healthcare but I feel like that should be separate from acceptance of transgendered individuals in society.

Especially since being trans =/= wanting SRS

Exactly.

[YellowApple]

To be or not to be ? That is NOT the question, But rather a choice that clearly must be your own. Respecting the rights of others ,Is the road to peace.

That was deep, man. *begins snapping in applause*

[Distruzio]

I support the World Health Organisation in its view of gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. This is generally accepted by the scientific community.

Find me one transgender person who didn't have serious problems in childhood, usually due to a parent leaving. Saying ''me'' or ''a friend'' is not an appropriate answer.

I know several, personally, who do not fit this trope.