Planned Parenthood doctor accused of doing forced abortion

[Condunum]

On that note, it is the hospital's fault when a surgeon fucks up a routine operation.

I don't think so. I think it would be the surgeon's fault.

In thins case, if the doctor at PP fucked up (and I won't say he did or didn't since we're still waiting on a court ruling), it's not PP's fault but the doctor in question.

Thats my point.

[Christian Democrats]

The woman had a change of heart on the operating table, yet they went ahead with the procedure anyway.

Planned Parenthood acted . . . no matter what.

And how far into the proceedure were they? Did they make an attempt to stop? Was it too late to stop? These things all matter, you know.

According to the complaint, they had not started the procedure yet.

Of course they did something wrong. The woman ended up in the emergency room.

On that note, it is the hospital's fault when a surgeon fucks up a routine operation.

The doctor in question works for a large Planned Parenthood clinic.

[Catness]

I don't think so. I think it would be the surgeon's fault.

In thins case, if the doctor at PP fucked up (and I won't say he did or didn't since we're still waiting on a court ruling), it's not PP's fault but the doctor in question.

Thats my point.

Oh, but you see. The OP already made up his mind. This is PP's fault so he blames PP for a doctor's alleged fuck up. Keep in mind that a court hasn't ruled on this. This is all CD's feelings on the subject.

[Condunum]

And how far into the proceedure were they? Did they make an attempt to stop? Was it too late to stop? These things all matter, you know.

According to the complaint, they had not started the procedure yet.

On that note, it is the hospital's fault when a surgeon fucks up a routine operation.

The doctor in question works for a large Planned Parenthood clinic.

Right. And that surgeon works for that hospital. Using your insane, stupid and infantile logic, that surgeon fucking up a tonsilectomy is the fault of the hospital.

[Desperate Measures]

And how far into the proceedure were they? Did they make an attempt to stop? Was it too late to stop? These things all matter, you know.

According to the complaint, they had not started the procedure yet.

On that note, it is the hospital's fault when a surgeon fucks up a routine operation.

The doctor in question works for a large Planned Parenthood clinic.

So hospitals should shut their doors if a single surgeon fucks up?

[Condunum]

According to the complaint, they had not started the procedure yet.


The doctor in question works for a large Planned Parenthood clinic.

So hospitals should shut their doors if a single surgeon fucks up?

Reasonable to me.

[Desperate Measures]

So hospitals should shut their doors if a single surgeon fucks up?

Reasonable to me.

In the end, there can be only one hospital.

[Catness]

According to the complaint, they had not started the procedure yet.


The doctor in question works for a large Planned Parenthood clinic.

So hospitals should shut their doors if a single surgeon fucks up?

If we follow the OP's childish logic? Fuck yeah. This wasn't the doctor's fault, no siree. This is all part of the great Planned Parenthood conspiracy to force abortions on women.

[Individuality-ness]

So hospitals should shut their doors if a single surgeon fucks up?

If we follow the OP's childish logic? Fuck yeah. This wasn't the doctor's fault, no siree. This is all part of the great Planned Parenthood conspiracy to force abortions on women.

It's called a cognitive dissonance for a reason.

[Catness]

If we follow the OP's childish logic? Fuck yeah. This wasn't the doctor's fault, no siree. This is all part of the great Planned Parenthood conspiracy to force abortions on women.

It's called a cognitive dissonance for a reason.

So be sure that a PP official will come by your home. Open your legs, he/she'll go in with a vac and force you to give up your fetus for the great fetus pie PP is planning on selling.

I can be absurd too, you know.

[Condunum]

If we follow the OP's childish logic? Fuck yeah. This wasn't the doctor's fault, no siree. This is all part of the great Planned Parenthood conspiracy to force abortions on women.

It's called a cognitive dissonance for a reason.

Oh, he's full of that. It's been well displayed in the past.
Edit: I was supposed to go to sleep after my last post.
Curse you indi, for giving me an opportunity for that xD

[Individuality-ness]

It's called a cognitive dissonance for a reason.

Oh, he's full of that. It's been well displayed in the past.
Edit: I was supposed to go to sleep after my last post.
Curse you indi, for giving me an opportunity for that xD

My pleasure Condy. My pleasure.

It's called a cognitive dissonance for a reason.

So be sure that a PP official will come by your home. Open your legs, he/she'll go in with a vac and force you to give up your fetus for the great fetus pie PP is planning on selling.

I can be absurd too, you know.

I know. The "anti-choice" position (I refuse to call them "pro-life", for they're anything but that) is ridiculous.

[Catness]

Oh, he's full of that. It's been well displayed in the past.
Edit: I was supposed to go to sleep after my last post.
Curse you indi, for giving me an opportunity for that xD

My pleasure Condy. My pleasure.

So be sure that a PP official will come by your home. Open your legs, he/she'll go in with a vac and force you to give up your fetus for the great fetus pie PP is planning on selling.

I can be absurd too, you know.

I know. The "anti-choice" position (I refuse to call them "pro-life", for they're anything but that) is ridiculous.

I find that most of them are just plain dishonest, aside from, as you pointed, ridiculous.

[Individuality-ness]

I know. The "anti-choice" position (I refuse to call them "pro-life", for they're anything but that) is ridiculous.

I find that most of them are just plain dishonest, aside from, as you pointed, ridiculous.

You should have read the earlier pages of the thread, Nid was being totally intellectually dishonest.

[Catness]

I find that most of them are just plain dishonest, aside from, as you pointed, ridiculous.

You should have read the earlier pages of the thread, Nid was being totally intellectually dishonest.

I participated on the first few pages. Then got disgusted because, well, you know how that goes.

Who's Nid?

[Individuality-ness]

You should have read the earlier pages of the thread, Nid was being totally intellectually dishonest.

I participated on the first few pages. Then got disgusted because, well, you know how that goes.

Who's Nid?

Nidaria, because I can't spell for shit.

[Menassa]

You should have read the earlier pages of the thread, Nid was being totally intellectually dishonest.

I participated on the first few pages. Then got disgusted because, well, you know how that goes.

Who's Nid?

A Catholic....

[Catness]

I participated on the first few pages. Then got disgusted because, well, you know how that goes.

Who's Nid?

Nidaria, because I can't spell for shit.

Oh, I don't know who that is.

I participated on the first few pages. Then got disgusted because, well, you know how that goes.

Who's Nid?

A Catholic....

I was raised as a Catholic myself and I don't, thankfully, hold these ridiculous views. Intellectual dishonesty isn't always a side effect of your chosen creed. Or at least, that's how I see it.

[Menassa]

A Catholic....

I was raised as a Catholic myself and I don't, thankfully, hold these ridiculous views. Intellectual dishonesty isn't always a side effect of your chosen creed. Or at least, that's how I see it.

It's all about reading the Bible... and correctly appropriating it... there are two kinds of people in the world.. those who can... and those who cannot.

[Individuality-ness]

Nidaria, because I can't spell for shit.

Oh, I don't know who that is.

You'll like this then:

Nidaria's Thinking

Foetusus have souls > Why? Because religion taught me morality > Abortion is immoral > When a scientific study says otherwise it is "biased" > Do I need a source to support my claim? No, sources are "illogical" > Foetusus have souls > Why? Because religion taught me morality > Abortion is immoral > When a scientific study says otherwise it is "biased" > Do I need a source to support my claim? No, sources are "illogical"

Foetusus have souls > Why? Science demonstrates that they are individuals, and individuals have souls > Killing an individual is murder > Murder is immoral > Why? It is forbidden by morality > Others attack my morality > I respond with logic > They want an un-biased source > I do not use a source > Why? Every published source is inherently unbiased > I do not need a source, and use logic instead.

Nothing circular about it.

[Cannot think of a name]

despite the fact that the courts haven't ruled on this, you're convinced PP did something wrong.

Here's my prediction, for what it's worth. The courts will never see this. PP of wherever won't ever get served with the lawsuit, it will never go to court, the case will never be made. Planned Parenthood, by law and by their own ethic, will never publicly discuss what happened to their patient while in their care unless they're forced to in a court of law-again, a place this will never see.

This story is as developed as it will ever be. A comically bad lawyer (look up Gravlen's posts) made a complaint and gave it to friendly media sources (FOX, pro-life blogs dressed up like news sites) and this story was created. All that was needed, all they were after, is that headline. Then good little soldiers like our intrepid OP go and spread this fiction like wildfire, sprinkling that little headline out wherever they can.

Because it's not the we who see through the completely transparent bullshit that makes up this bullshit story...it's the people who see the headline and take it at face value, it's the good little soldiers who drop this horror story in casual conversation..."Did you know..." "No, I didn't, and since I'm not invested in politics or Planned Parenthood I'm going to now casually accept this dubious story as truth. I always thought PP provided valuable women's health services but if what you say is true..." and this little germ spreads.

What's the worst thing that can happen to this story? Going to court. Where things like 'facts' and shit might get in the way of histrionics. Where if something was indeed done wrong it falls on an individual doctor and not an entire institution.

So there will be no further development, no follow up on this story. It will descend into e-mails from that uncle who forwards shit and dropped as stink bombs in debates over abortion and Planned Parenthood funding. Because no legitimate news agency is following this, so even when it goes nowhere or is dropped or just not even fucking mentioned anymore there won't be much of a headline, just a story that goes away with no answer. Until some pro-life proponent whips it out as their trump card.

[Catness]

I was raised as a Catholic myself and I don't, thankfully, hold these ridiculous views. Intellectual dishonesty isn't always a side effect of your chosen creed. Or at least, that's how I see it.

It's all about reading the Bible... and correctly appropriating it... there are two kinds of people in the world.. those who can... and those who cannot.

The problem here is that some people ''apply'' Bible principles (or so they claim to be doing) when considering this subject. And I don't think they do it properly (if one can use such terminology).

Besides, why must one use such a text to deal with an issue like unwanted pregnancy? I think religion should stay the fuck out of this issue. Ideally, that is. But I know it won't.

[Menassa]

It's all about reading the Bible... and correctly appropriating it... there are two kinds of people in the world.. those who can... and those who cannot.

The problem here is that some people ''apply'' Bible principles (or so they claim to be doing) when considering this subject. And I don't think they do it properly (if one can use such terminology).

Besides, why must one use such a text to deal with an issue like unwanted pregnancy? I think religion should stay the fuck out of this issue. Ideally, that is. But I know it won't.

If one believes religion governs all life... aborting fetuses happens in life...

[Catness]

despite the fact that the courts haven't ruled on this, you're convinced PP did something wrong.

Here's my prediction, for what it's worth. The courts will never see this. PP of wherever won't ever get served with the lawsuit, it will never go to court, the case will never be made. Planned Parenthood, by law and by their own ethic, will never publicly discuss what happened to their patient while in their care unless they're forced to in a court of law-again, a place this will never see.

This story is as developed as it will ever be. A comically bad lawyer (look up Gravlen's posts) made a complaint and gave it to friendly media sources (FOX, pro-life blogs dressed up like news sites) and this story was created. All that was needed, all they were after, is that headline. Then good little soldiers like our intrepid OP go and spread this fiction like wildfire, sprinkling that little headline out wherever they can.

Because it's not the we who see through the completely transparent bullshit that makes up this bullshit story...it's the people who see the headline and take it at face value, it's the good little soldiers who drop this horror story in casual conversation..."Did you know..." "No, I didn't, and since I'm not invested in politics or Planned Parenthood I'm going to now casually accept this dubious story as truth. I always thought PP provided valuable women's health services but if what you say is true..." and this little germ spreads.

What's the worst thing that can happen to this story? Going to court. Where things like 'facts' and shit might get in the way of histrionics. Where if something was indeed done wrong it falls on an individual doctor and not an entire institution.

So there will be no further development, no follow up on this story. It will descend into e-mails from that uncle who forwards shit and dropped as stink bombs in debates over abortion and Planned Parenthood funding. Because no legitimate news agency is following this, so even when it goes nowhere or is dropped or just not even fucking mentioned anymore there won't be much of a headline, just a story that goes away with no answer. Until some pro-life proponent whips it out as their trump card.

Succinctly put.

Still, this BS makes my blood boil a bit. This is the way misinformation spreads. But I can rest easy, I suppose, because perhaps what you predict will happen. This will stay relegated to emails and the boogeyman stories that sometimes you hear some people tell and no one with a shred of intelligence will buy it.

[Zweite Alaje]

I hope her lawsuit will encourage more women to report PP's terrible practices, death to Planned "Parenthood".