Dating advice... why can I never manage to date girls?

[EvilDarkMagicians]

We need picture to analyse your face for imperfections.
R U Ugly or Not?

[JuNii]

Women like adventure. Run up to her and in an alarmed and excited voice tell her that her life is in danger. Then throw her off a bridge. When she climbs out of the water, tell her that you mistook her for someone else and she's perfectly safe now. Invite her back to your place for some dry clothes and a home-cooked meal. You're in!

If a guy did this to me I don't think I would find it possible to be angry; possibly impressed at the level of effort.

I also wouldn't find it possible to be angry, mostly because I would very probably be dead. Therefore, I suggest making very sure the woman in question can swim first.

There are plenty of other fish in the sea.

Eh, it's all water under the bridge in the long run.

that's the other thing. make sure that there is water under the bridge and that it's deep enough. tossing her over into a dry riverbed will make for a not happy ending.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Women like adventure. Run up to her and in an alarmed and excited voice tell her that her life is in danger. Then throw her off a bridge. When she climbs out of the water, tell her that you mistook her for someone else and she's perfectly safe now. Invite her back to your place for some dry clothes and a home-cooked meal. You're in!

If a guy did this to me I don't think I would find it possible to be angry; possibly impressed at the level of effort.

I also wouldn't find it possible to be angry, mostly because I would very probably be dead. Therefore, I suggest making very sure the woman in question can swim first.

You could make sure it was one of those little bridges like in a park that aren't more than three feet high, and the water no more than a foot deep. I'm a little ssurprised LG didn't suggest pitching her into some mud, instead.

I save that for the second date.

[Rhodmhire]

We need picture to analyse your face for imperfections.
R U Ugly or Not?

Everyone on the Internet is as beautiful as they want to be.

I don't want to keep teaching you guys basic Internet assumption(s) theory, I have other students to lecture.

[JuNii]

I save that for the second date.

"Hi... yes, this is LG calling... we went out the other night... yeah... I'm glad you had a good time... listen... the reason why I'm calling... I was wondering... wanna go out tonight?

you do? great!... dress appropriately, because we're gonna get down and dirty tonight..."

[EvilDarkMagicians]

We need picture to analyse your face for imperfections.
R U Ugly or Not?

Everyone on the Internet is as beautiful as they want to be.

I don't want to keep teaching you guys basic Internet assumption(s) theory, I have other students to lecture.

He isn't implying he wants to internet date...

[Maurepas]

We need picture to analyse your face for imperfections.
R U Ugly or Not?

Everyone on the Internet is as beautiful as they want to be.

I don't want to keep teaching you guys basic Internet assumption(s) theory, I have other students to lecture.

He isn't implying he wants to internet date...

But I am,

[Rhodmhire]

I save that for the second date.

"Hi... yes, this is LG calling... we went out the other night... yeah... I'm glad you had a good time... listen... the reason why I'm calling... I was wondering... wanna go out tonight?

you do? great!... dress appropriately, because we're gonna get down and dirty tonight..."

Boom-pow!

[Rhodmhire]

We need picture to analyse your face for imperfections.
R U Ugly or Not?

Everyone on the Internet is as beautiful as they want to be.

I don't want to keep teaching you guys basic Internet assumption(s) theory, I have other students to lecture.

He isn't implying he wants to internet date...

You can't specify his disposition or beauty from a perspective on the Internet as basic Internet assumption(s) theory implies everyone on the Internet is as beautiful as they want; that doesn't transcend into real life implication(s).

[Rhodmhire]

We need picture to analyse your face for imperfections.
R U Ugly or Not?

Everyone on the Internet is as beautiful as they want to be.

I don't want to keep teaching you guys basic Internet assumption(s) theory, I have other students to lecture.

He isn't implying he wants to internet date...

But I am,

Shaka-boom-pow!

[Lunatic Goofballs]

I save that for the second date.

"Hi... yes, this is LG calling... we went out the other night... yeah... I'm glad you had a good time... listen... the reason why I'm calling... I was wondering... wanna go out tonight?

you do? great!... dress appropriately, because we're gonna get down and dirty tonight..."

What can I say? I'm a hopeless romantic.

[Metz-Lorraine]

Um, i hate to be a bit stereotypical here (As I dont really have these problems and others in my region dont either) but your asking the wrong crowd.

But here, find a women you like. Don't go by looks, but in who they are. This is the most important thing. You never know who you may find prettier than you thought.

To find a women first, there are a few ways to make "first contact"

-Get some friends together, and maybe have a few friends of your who are girls come along to and tell them to bring friends. There will come a chance when your friends will move away form you and only you and one other friend of your friends is left and then yall dance and get to know each other. I did this totally by accident once and fell in love.

-DO all the above, and just hang out with various people until you find one that will concstantly talk with you and you enjoy it. Its a good start. Also happened to me and it works, but this is only one of MILLIONS of ways to meeet someone.

-Clubs may seem a bit cliche to you, but at your age it is a perfect way to meet someone. Or maybe just some dancing place to dance and meet people. Preferably not drunk to gague whether they really actually like you better.

Now, these are just some thigns i got off teh top of my memory, usually its always by accident. You just need to know how to make the follow up come through if you want to ever have success. Maybe your friends were interested in you at first, but you didn't go that extra mile to make them actually like you so it could be something more. But you can't wait otherwise you'll just be friends and after that it would be akward which makes it almost impossible to date them.

[Astholm]

You claim you have female friends. Why not ask them instead of strangers on an internet forum ?

Second - stop caring if they lie to you about being single or any of the 7 million other excuses one can come up with. Just see what happens - you cannot predict the future, but you can enjoy the ride.
Oh, and while people always claim that men have "commitment issues" - most women in their early twenties don't like a guy that starts talking about how he wants a committed relationship with them on the first date. Or second date. Just a tip

I may do so, just work's been too stressful lately. As for commitment issues... well, I haven't reached that stage yet.

[Yousefria]

what country do u live in???difrent girls in difrernt countrys like to be treated diffrent
forget if she has a boy friend or do u want to get with him...
any ways try to get to know her well,take her out on a date,boom done
if u like her a lot then keep telling her stuff then declare to.if she dosent accept do it agian and agian till one of u get bored results:
u get bored then u lose her and if she gets bored she will accept u
ask her brother or sis or friends if she has a boyfriend
ask your friends that are girls if they can hook u up with one of there friends



i no a guy that got a girl friend in 3 weeks

[The Blaatschapen]

what country do u live in???difrent girls in difrernt countrys like to be treated diffrent

Umm, I think that pretty much all girls want to feel appreciated, respected etc. There are differences between countries, sure, but I found out that there is just as much difference between two girls from the same country as between countries

The above also goes for guys btw

[Barzan]

Problem number 1: you think of women as a thing to "get."

Problem number 2: you actually seriously consider statements like "you can't trust women these days" instead of laughing at them.

Summation of these problems: you seem not to have fully figured out yet that women are people. Once you master this concept, you'll find that having relationships with them becomes much easier, because it is, rather unsurprisingly, challenging to build a fulfilling relationship with someone you see as an object who shares a hivemind with anyone and everyone with the same chromosomal makeup.

Woah now. Did he ever say he viewed women as an "object" he must procure? Saying you wish you had/could get a girlfriend is not quite the same as "how do I get one of those ultra-Natashas?".

[Yousefria]

what country do u live in???difrent girls in difrernt countrys like to be treated diffrent

Umm, I think that pretty much all girls want to feel appreciated, respected etc. There are differences between countries, sure, but I found out that there is just as much difference between two girls from the same country as between countries

The above also goes for guys btw

no no i mean that somtime they like it when u act like u dont like them,or like when your slow at declaring others fast,ect

[Barzan]

what country do u live in???difrent girls in difrernt countrys like to be treated diffrent

Umm, I think that pretty much all girls want to feel appreciated, respected etc. There are differences between countries, sure, but I found out that there is just as much difference between two girls from the same country as between countries

The above also goes for guys btw

no no i mean that somtime they like it when u act like u dont like them,or like when your slow at declaring others fast,ect

Yeah, I call that "game playing", and I'd stay away from that if I were the OP. He should stick with people who are assimilated to his own culture. If he found that the dating customs of another culture were more comfortable for him, on the other hand, perhaps he might have luck with a different culture.

[The Blaatschapen]

what country do u live in???difrent girls in difrernt countrys like to be treated diffrent

Umm, I think that pretty much all girls want to feel appreciated, respected etc. There are differences between countries, sure, but I found out that there is just as much difference between two girls from the same country as between countries

The above also goes for guys btw

no no i mean that somtime they like it when u act like u dont like them,or like when your slow at declaring others fast,ect

Can you write it a bit more coherent? I don't get the 'declaring others fast, ect' bit

[Poliwanacraca]

Problem number 1: you think of women as a thing to "get."

Problem number 2: you actually seriously consider statements like "you can't trust women these days" instead of laughing at them.

Summation of these problems: you seem not to have fully figured out yet that women are people. Once you master this concept, you'll find that having relationships with them becomes much easier, because it is, rather unsurprisingly, challenging to build a fulfilling relationship with someone you see as an object who shares a hivemind with anyone and everyone with the same chromosomal makeup.

Woah now. Did he ever say he viewed women as an "object" he must procure? Saying you wish you had/could get a girlfriend is not quite the same as "how do I get one of those ultra-Natashas?".

The fact that there are worse ways to think about things does not actually mean that thinking of women in terms of "how do I get one?" is not indicative of why he might be having problems. (The OP himself seems to have realized this, seeing as the title of this thread has since been edited.) I'm not saying, "ZOMG, OP, you are the most horrible sexist ever!!!1!" He's not. He's a pretty normal young guy, in fact. I'm simply saying that even asking for advice on how to "get women" indicates that you are not really approaching women as individual people for whom there would obviously be no one-size-fits-all strategy, but rather as mysterious not-exactly-human beings totally unlike men, about whom one can make universal generalizations, and that this may very well be a big part of the problem.

[Barzan]

Problem number 1: you think of women as a thing to "get."

Problem number 2: you actually seriously consider statements like "you can't trust women these days" instead of laughing at them.

Summation of these problems: you seem not to have fully figured out yet that women are people. Once you master this concept, you'll find that having relationships with them becomes much easier, because it is, rather unsurprisingly, challenging to build a fulfilling relationship with someone you see as an object who shares a hivemind with anyone and everyone with the same chromosomal makeup.

Woah now. Did he ever say he viewed women as an "object" he must procure? Saying you wish you had/could get a girlfriend is not quite the same as "how do I get one of those ultra-Natashas?".

The fact that there are worse ways to think about things does not actually mean that thinking of women in terms of "how do I get one?" is not indicative of why he might be having problems. (The OP himself seems to have realized this, seeing as the title of this thread has since been edited.) I'm not saying, "ZOMG, OP, you are the most horrible sexist ever!!!1!" He's not. He's a pretty normal young guy, in fact. I'm simply saying that even asking for advice on how to "get women" indicates that you are not really approaching women as individual people for whom there would obviously be no one-size-fits-all strategy, but rather as mysterious not-exactly-human beings totally unlike men, about whom one can make universal generalizations, and that this may very well be a big part of the problem.

Touché. Well, anyway I thought your advice, as well as that MSN article, had some great ideas. I do believe I see what you meant to say, as opposed to what I thought you said. Yes, he should not approach women using methods described by "pick-up artists" nor should he become a hipster/emo/goth because he meets a cute girl who happens to be one of those three things. Would you agree that his primary goal, given his stated desires, should be to "make friends" instead of using friendship as a means?

[Yousefria]

what country do u live in???difrent girls in difrernt countrys like to be treated diffrent

Umm, I think that pretty much all girls want to feel appreciated, respected etc. There are differences between countries, sure, but I found out that there is just as much difference between two girls from the same country as between countries

The above also goes for guys btw

no no i mean that somtime they like it when u act like u dont like them,or like when your slow at declaring others fast,ect

Yeah, I call that "game playing", and I'd stay away from that if I were the OP. He should stick with people who are assimilated to his own culture. If he found that the dating customs of another culture were more comfortable for him, on the other hand, perhaps he might have luck with a different culture.

call it what ever u want but it works because if u act like u dont like them then they somtime star to like u making them weaker.the idea is to make them like u

[Maurepas]

I'm simply saying that even asking for advice on how to "get women" indicates that you are not really approaching women as individual people for whom there would obviously be no one-size-fits-all strategy, but rather as mysterious not-exactly-human beings totally unlike men, about whom one can make universal generalizations, and that this may very well be a big part of the problem.

This is why everyone should come with an instruction manual,

[Barzan]

Yeah, I call that "game playing", and I'd stay away from that if I were the OP. He should stick with people who are assimilated to his own culture. If he found that the dating customs of another culture were more comfortable for him, on the other hand, perhaps he might have luck with a different culture.

call it what ever u want but it works because if u act like u dont like them then they somtime star to like u making them weaker.the idea is to make them like u

What do you mean, though? Are you saying that some cultures have demure women who want to be "conquered" or something, as opposed to the West where they usually want to be treated like equals (even though you find different attitudes in all cultures)? I don't quite get where you're going.

[Yousefria]

Yeah, I call that "game playing", and I'd stay away from that if I were the OP. He should stick with people who are assimilated to his own culture. If he found that the dating customs of another culture were more comfortable for him, on the other hand, perhaps he might have luck with a different culture.

call it what ever u want but it works because if u act like u dont like them then they somtime star to like u making them weaker.the idea is to make them like u

What do you mean, though? Are you saying that some cultures have demure women who want to be "conquered" or something, as opposed to the West where they usually want to be treated like equals (even though you find different attitudes in all cultures)? I don't quite get where you're going.

for exaple in nicaragua we are vulgar,ect people.some girl are intersed if u have a morterbike or car,ect others like to be conquered.others may not know your intensions and have a low defence if u do it slowly others somtime will declare to u.i no a girl theat declared to me...