Republican vs Conservative vs Democrat

[Allanea]

The Republican suspended her campaign.

[Milks Empire]

The Republican suspended her campaign.

We got there half a page ago.

To the subject of the thread: Scozzafava suspended her campaign today. She'll remain on the ballot, of course, but she has told her supporters they can vote for either the Democrat or the Conservative.

While this makes a Conservative victory much more likely, because Scozzafava was a very, very liberal Republican, it wouldn't be a shock to see at least a portion of her 16% in the lastest poll break for the Democrat. Moderate Republicans oftentimes have a hard time voting for conservative Republicans because of their horribly dissimilar views on social issues.

(To distill "the US was founded so people could have freedom of religion" is malarky. That ones one of many, many things people enjoyed about the colonies, but the idea of self-determination and the lack of a god-chosen national leader was the philosophy that drove the revolution. Oh, and not having any say in the taxes levied on them, that one upset folk, too).

[Chazicaria]

I don't live in New York, bu I would like to see the Conservative win, maybe he could turn NYC around.

[Mount Kip]

socialism leads to communism!!!

[Chazicaria]

socialism leads to communism!!!

We established that years ago...

[The Movie of the Book]

Well, no, not so much. Communism has never been implemented on a national level. There is no historical indication that socialist policies will inevitably lead to communist policies.

Before you go on about the USSR or China, is the DPRK democratic?

[The Tofu Islands]

socialism leads to communism!!!

No, it doesn’t.

This is also completely and utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand. Would you like to post something on-topic?

[Chazicaria]

Well, no, not so much. Communism has never been implemented on a national level. There is no historical indication that socialist policies will inevitably lead to communist policies.

Before you go on about the USSR or China, is the DPRK democratic?

I'm not sure it is...

[The Movie of the Book]

Well, no, not so much. Communism has never been implemented on a national level. There is no historical indication that socialist policies will inevitably lead to communist policies.

Before you go on about the USSR or China, is the DPRK democratic?

I'm not sure it is...

Since the DPRK is the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, the answer is a resounding no. The USSR was not communist. China is not communist. Socialism does not automatically lead to communism.

[Teccor]

Regarding Timesjoke's post on page one:

Timesjoke is possibly the most intelligent person i've seen on the internet. You know the best part? No one offered a valid arguement. Not one.

A mod, who obviously disagreed with him, as a later post showed, warned him for 'flaming', and someone said he was stupid, or rather "Has more beliefs than knowledge." Yet this person gave no proof as to why, because he couldn't, and besides that, no one else directly replied to his post.

Now, i'll probably get warned/banned for bashing a mod, but I feel that this needed to be said. Now, to ward off cries of 'threadjacking' by someone who disagrees with me, i'll post some relevant info.

If conservatism makes a real comeback, America's economy, reputation, and standards for human rights will likely improve.

Fixed!

BTW, conservatives have always held better human right standards, better economic policies and always kept a good reputation, especially during Reagan years.

It is better to be thought to be good than to actually do good, no?

No, you should do good first.

Then why the hullabulloo about having a good reputation?

...Are you serious? A good reputation means that the public smart people like what you've done in the past, and what you're currently doing.

A bad reputation means that smart people don't like what you're doing.

Thus, someone with a good reputation would seem to be a better leader than someone without a good reputation.

[The Movie of the Book]

...Are you serious? A good reputation means that the public smart people like what you've done in the past, and what you're currently doing.

A bad reputation means that smart people don't like what you're doing.

Thus, someone with a good reputation would seem to be a better leader than someone without a good reputation.

Why do you think that only smart people make evaluations of politicians?

[Teccor]

...Are you serious? A good reputation means that the public smart people like what you've done in the past, and what you're currently doing.

A bad reputation means that smart people don't like what you're doing.

Thus, someone with a good reputation would seem to be a better leader than someone without a good reputation.

Why do you think that only smart people make evaluations of politicians?

I never said that. I simply implied that only smart peoples' opinions matter, because who in their right mind would listen to a dumb person?

[The Movie of the Book]

...Are you serious? A good reputation means that the public smart people like what you've done in the past, and what you're currently doing.

A bad reputation means that smart people don't like what you're doing.

Thus, someone with a good reputation would seem to be a better leader than someone without a good reputation.

Why do you think that only smart people make evaluations of politicians?

I never said that. I simply implied that only smart peoples' opinions matter, because who in their right mind would listen to a dumb person?

It remains that you can have a good reputation, or a bad one, without doing good or bad things.

Death panels, for instance.

[Teccor]

...Are you serious? A good reputation means that the public smart people like what you've done in the past, and what you're currently doing.

A bad reputation means that smart people don't like what you're doing.

Thus, someone with a good reputation would seem to be a better leader than someone without a good reputation.

Why do you think that only smart people make evaluations of politicians?

I never said that. I simply implied that only smart peoples' opinions matter, because who in their right mind would listen to a dumb person?

It remains that you can have a good reputation, or a bad one, without doing good or bad things.

Death panels, for instance.

Meh. Good and Bad are subjective. Good and Evil are subjective, and even Conservative and Liberal are subjective. It's all based on opinions.

The only thing set it stone are morals.

I digress. I also tire of this arguement. Political debates are Tic-Tac-Toe games: No one ever wins and everyone feels dumber afterwards.

Ciao

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Doug Hoffman FTW

Conservatives UNITE. Lets take back our beloved America.

[Saritus]

Sure vote Democrat higher taxes insane regulations and a a world that says hey look at the cowards.

[Indo-Iran]

Take back America from the nigras! Oh, wait...facepalm.

[Timesjoke]

Regarding Timesjoke's post on page one:

Timesjoke is possibly the most intelligent person i've seen on the internet. You know the best part? No one offered a valid arguement. Not one.

Thank you very much for the compliment, I do not consider myself smart though, just wise enough to see past the political games on both sides and see what is really there. Both the Republicans and the Democrats have their own agendas, but "most" of the time the Republicans and the conservatives (not the same thing most of the time) tend to lean to business and self reliance for their answers while the Democrats/liberals/socialists tend to look to Government for theirs.

I don't want or need the Government to "fix" my life for me. The more the Government gets involved, the worse everyone's lives become.

[Joannalandia]

I vote for a large scale land invasion of the United States by North Korea or China.
Let me tell you, nothing would pull this country back into a cohesive force like a clear threat on American soil.

[Indo-Iran]

If that was so, explain the bailouts and corporate welfare. Yeah, real self-reliance.

Both parties are whores for different interest groups. I just vote for whoever might throw me a bigger bone here and there without devastating everything else.

[Greenyville]

...Are you serious? A good reputation means that the public smart people like what you've done in the past, and what you're currently doing.

A bad reputation means that smart people don't like what you're doing.

Thus, someone with a good reputation would seem to be a better leader than someone without a good reputation.

Why do you think that only smart people make evaluations of politicians?

I never said that. I simply implied that only smart peoples' opinions matter, because who in their right mind would listen to a dumb person?

only listen to smart people. sounds like a pretty undemocratic ideal to me.
automatically assuming that your belief is superior to others... because you are "smart".
thats a pretty damn stupid sentiment right there, maybe i dont consider you smart so dont want to hear your opinion. maybe different people have different definitions of smart - maybe if i define it as iq and mine is a point higher, my opinion wins automatically... nope. sounds like shit.

[Goath]

...Are you serious? A good reputation means that the public smart people like what you've done in the past, and what you're currently doing.

A bad reputation means that smart people don't like what you're doing.

Thus, someone with a good reputation would seem to be a better leader than someone without a good reputation.

Why do you think that only smart people make evaluations of politicians?

I never said that. I simply implied that only smart peoples' opinions matter, because who in their right mind would listen to a dumb person?

only listen to smart people. sounds like a pretty undemocratic ideal to me.
automatically assuming that your belief is superior to others... because you are "smart".
thats a pretty damn stupid sentiment right there, maybe i dont consider you smart so dont want to hear your opinion. maybe different people have different definitions of smart - maybe if i define it as iq and mine is a point higher, my opinion wins automatically... nope. sounds like shit.

Don't listen to the "smart" people- they're just trying to be superior! Don't listen to "experts"- they're just trying to put us down!

Please.

If nothing else is wrong with conservatives in the United States today, THAT sentiment is. The idea isn't that you automatically agree with the opinions of "smart" people or experts in a field or whatever, it is that you weight those opinions a different way than a regular old folk's opinion. If you have a marine biologist and a plumber both telling you about the status of the Bering Sea, it doesn't make any sense at all to assume going in the biologist is wrong because they're just superior.

[Vervaria]

On a more OT subject, the Republican endorsed the Democrat. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... -democrat/

[Goath]

On a more OT subject, the Republican endorsed the Democrat. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... -democrat/

Holy God! While I thought she might personally vote for Owens instead of Hoffman...I'm amazed she's telling her supporters to!

[Mount Kip]

socialism leads to communism!!!

Capitalism-Socialism-Monarchy-Communism

Yes it does, because it means more govt to CONTROL your lives.