Free Cellphones and minutes for Welfare

[Fartsniffage]

Au contraire Mr. Know-it-all. The Church, during the time I was unemployed, paid my rent, utilities and food. Now that I am able, I pay my 10 percent so that they can help people lilke they helped me.

This is how it is SUPPOSED to work. People volunteering to help other people, instead of being forced.

So you took unemployment and money from your church?

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

Fine if cell phones are so cheap, give them to everyone. Create a mandate that ALL citizens get free phones with certain basic services. If you want to add more then it is up to you.

*I* cant even afford the phones *I* have. And part of that is because the taxes and surcharges that I pay go for this stupid handout system. Ever hear of a PAYPHONE?

If you can't afford phones, how do you afford a computer and internet service?

3 phones, family plan $100/mo. Internet $60 month. Computer, gift.

Then why are you bitching about not being able to afford all that shit? You could switch to tracfone. Phones come free when you sign up for a plan. $16/month for all three phones.

I pay less than $60/month for internet and I have Fios which is a premium service at 15mbps. Why don't you downgrade to a cheaper dial up or satellite service? Hell, you don't have to go that far, Verizon offers plans for 1 mbps starting at $18/month. Very poor financial planning on your part.

[Jocabia]

Gift from a company for which I worked. They laid me off due to economic conditions. I negotiated with them for the computer in lieu of some benefits. So it is sort of a gift.

If you're so short that you're having difficulty paying your bills you could, you know, stop giving a tenth of your wage to the church.

Au contraire Mr. Know-it-all. The Church, during the time I was unemployed, paid my rent, utilities and food. Now that I am able, I pay my 10 percent so that they can help people lilke they helped me.

This is how it is SUPPOSED to work. People volunteering to help other people, instead of being forced.

Ah, but that puts all the burden on the good people. I'd prefer it be a shared burden. More fair. You're always complaining about things being unfair. Yay... solution!

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Fine if cell phones are so cheap, give them to everyone. Create a mandate that ALL citizens get free phones with certain basic services. If you want to add more then it is up to you.

*I* cant even afford the phones *I* have. And part of that is because the taxes and surcharges that I pay go for this stupid handout system. Ever hear of a PAYPHONE?

If you can't afford phones, how do you afford a computer and internet service?

3 phones, family plan $100/mo. Internet $60 month. Computer, gift.

Then why are you bitching about not being able to afford all that shit? You could switch to tracfone. Phones come free when you sign up for a plan. $16/month for all three phones.

I pay less than $60/month for internet and I have Fios which is a premium service at 15mbps. Why don't you downgrade to a cheaper dial up or satellite service? Hell, you don't have to go that far, Verizon offers plans for 1 mbps starting at $18/month. Very poor financial planning on your part.

I cant downgrade, I host porn sites in my living room. J/K, not really. I host nice websites in my living room.

[North Suran]

Gift from a company for which I worked. They laid me off due to economic conditions. I negotiated with them for the computer in lieu of some benefits. So it is sort of a gift.

If you're so short that you're having difficulty paying your bills you could, you know, stop giving a tenth of your wage to the church.

Au contraire Mr. Know-it-all. The Church, during the time I was unemployed, paid my rent, utilities and food. Now that I am able, I pay my 10 percent so that they can help people lilke they helped me.

This is how it is SUPPOSED to work. People volunteering to help other people, instead of being forced.

Wait, this actually just penetrated.

You're fine with people contributing money to help others - as long as its not the government forcing them to do it?

[Neo Art]

Au contraire Mr. Know-it-all. The Church, during the time I was unemployed, paid my rent, utilities and food. Now that I am able, I pay my 10 percent so that they can help people lilke they helped me.

So lemme make sure I understand this. You and others give money to an organization and, when one of the members of that organization falls into financial hardship, the organization gives some of that money to help them.

And this is different from taxpayer sponsored welfare....how?

[KiloMikeAlpha]

I have been bitching about the wrong things. I have been bitching that the poor want what I have.

That is totally wrong. I want what THEY get.

They get free food, free phones, free healthcare, free housing, free cadillacs, free internet, free cable.

What else is there. I WANNA BE POOR!

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Gift from a company for which I worked. They laid me off due to economic conditions. I negotiated with them for the computer in lieu of some benefits. So it is sort of a gift.

If you're so short that you're having difficulty paying your bills you could, you know, stop giving a tenth of your wage to the church.

Au contraire Mr. Know-it-all. The Church, during the time I was unemployed, paid my rent, utilities and food. Now that I am able, I pay my 10 percent so that they can help people lilke they helped me.

This is how it is SUPPOSED to work. People volunteering to help other people, instead of being forced.

Wait, this actually just penetrated.

You're fine with people contributing money to help others - as long as its not the government forcing them to do it?

DING DING DING we have a winner.

from IndyCons
I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

[Tech-gnosis]

I have been bitching about the wrong things. I have been bitching that the poor want what I have.

That is totally wrong. I want what THEY get.

They get free food, free phones, free healthcare, free housing, free cadillacs, free internet, free cable.

What else is there. I WANNA BE POOR!

*facepalm*

[Fartsniffage]

I have been bitching about the wrong things. I have been bitching that the poor want what I have.

That is totally wrong. I want what THEY get.

They get free food, free phones, free healthcare, free housing, free cadillacs, free internet, free cable.

What else is there. I WANNA BE POOR!

If you can't pay your bills then you are poor, or a bad financial planner.

[Jocabia]

Fine if cell phones are so cheap, give them to everyone. Create a mandate that ALL citizens get free phones with certain basic services. If you want to add more then it is up to you.

*I* cant even afford the phones *I* have. And part of that is because the taxes and surcharges that I pay go for this stupid handout system. Ever hear of a PAYPHONE?

If you can't afford phones, how do you afford a computer and internet service?

3 phones, family plan $100/mo. Internet $60 month. Computer, gift.

Then why are you bitching about not being able to afford all that shit? You could switch to tracfone. Phones come free when you sign up for a plan. $16/month for all three phones.

I pay less than $60/month for internet and I have Fios which is a premium service at 15mbps. Why don't you downgrade to a cheaper dial up or satellite service? Hell, you don't have to go that far, Verizon offers plans for 1 mbps starting at $18/month. Very poor financial planning on your part.

I cant downgrade, I host porn sites in my living room. J/K, not really. I host nice websites in my living room.

Uh-huh. You seem to be full of excuses.

Regardless, you're wildly overpaying. I use my internet to do my job and I don't pay anywhere near what you do for it. Nor for my phone which is a requirement for my job and I have limitless minutes. I carry several machines with me at any given time and I still don't take the hit you do. Maybe your beef isn't with the government. It's with whoever should have taught you how to financially plan a household.

[Farnhamia]

I have been bitching about the wrong things. I have been bitching that the poor want what I have.

That is totally wrong. I want what THEY get.

They get free food, free phones, free healthcare, free housing, free cadillacs, free internet, free cable.

What else is there. I WANNA BE POOR!

Well, your taxes will certainly go down. *nod*

[North Suran]

I have been bitching about the wrong things. I have been bitching that the poor want what I have.

That is totally wrong. I want what THEY get.

They get free food, free phones, free healthcare, free housing, free cadillacs, free internet, free cable.

What else is there. I WANNA BE POOR!

Then do it.

Become unemployed, apply for benefits and enjoy.

I'll be over here, enjoying a good quality of life.

[Neo Art]

I have been bitching about the wrong things. I have been bitching that the poor want what I have.

That is totally wrong. I want what THEY get.

They get free food, free phones, free healthcare, free housing, free cadillacs, free internet, free cable.

What else is there. I WANNA BE POOR!

And this, as always, is a demonstrable lie.

If it’s so easy to be on welfare, do it. You want it? Go get it.

No no, let me guess. It’s not that you’re LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH, it’s that you have “pride”. You have pride and won’t take all these free handouts.

Unlike the fact that you did.

So it seems you’re QUITE fine with taking handouts, you’re quite fine with getting unemployment, and charity from your church. You’re quite fine with taking other people’s money.

But you stopped.

Gee, I wonder why that is? You want to be poor, you're a few days of not showing up to work away. Go to it man.

[North Suran]

Gift from a company for which I worked. They laid me off due to economic conditions. I negotiated with them for the computer in lieu of some benefits. So it is sort of a gift.

If you're so short that you're having difficulty paying your bills you could, you know, stop giving a tenth of your wage to the church.

Au contraire Mr. Know-it-all. The Church, during the time I was unemployed, paid my rent, utilities and food. Now that I am able, I pay my 10 percent so that they can help people lilke they helped me.

This is how it is SUPPOSED to work. People volunteering to help other people, instead of being forced.

Wait, this actually just penetrated.

You're fine with people contributing money to help others - as long as its not the government forcing them to do it?

DING DING DING we have a winner.

from IndyCons
I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

Yet the Church does not consult its parish when using the money to support you.

How is this any different from a government collecting taxes and using it to support those who have fallen on hard times?

Short answer: It isn't.

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Au contraire Mr. Know-it-all. The Church, during the time I was unemployed, paid my rent, utilities and food. Now that I am able, I pay my 10 percent so that they can help people lilke they helped me.

So lemme make sure I understand this. You and others give money to an organization and, when one of the members of that organization falls into financial hardship, the organization gives some of that money to help them.

And this is different from taxpayer sponsored welfare....how?

One is voluntary, the other is forced through the threat of jail time.

[Neo Art]

I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

Oh, I fear you're quite mistaken about that one.

[Neo Art]

One is voluntary, the other is forced through the threat of jail time.

But if you're such a good person, that you WANT to donate, then it shouldn't bother you. No no, let me guess, it's the "principle" of it

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

I have been bitching about the wrong things. I have been bitching that the poor want what I have.

That is totally wrong. I want what THEY get.

They get free food, free phones, free healthcare, free housing, free cadillacs, free internet, free cable.

What else is there. I WANNA BE POOR!

Again, go right ahead. While you're at it, you might as well go out with a bang. Take out a loan, run up your credit card debt, blow all that money in Vegas. You're on welfare, what do you need a good credit score for? Oh wait, being poor isn't all it's cracked up to be, and you know it, so your full of shit.

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Gift from a company for which I worked. They laid me off due to economic conditions. I negotiated with them for the computer in lieu of some benefits. So it is sort of a gift.

If you're so short that you're having difficulty paying your bills you could, you know, stop giving a tenth of your wage to the church.

Au contraire Mr. Know-it-all. The Church, during the time I was unemployed, paid my rent, utilities and food. Now that I am able, I pay my 10 percent so that they can help people lilke they helped me.

This is how it is SUPPOSED to work. People volunteering to help other people, instead of being forced.

Wait, this actually just penetrated.

You're fine with people contributing money to help others - as long as its not the government forcing them to do it?

DING DING DING we have a winner.

from IndyCons
I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

Yet the Church does not consult its parish when using the money to support you.

How is this any different from a government collecting taxes and using it to support those who have fallen on hard times?

Short answer: It isn't.

The money is voluntary. Keep trying to rationalize forcing me to pay for others upkeep.

[Jocabia]

Gift from a company for which I worked. They laid me off due to economic conditions. I negotiated with them for the computer in lieu of some benefits. So it is sort of a gift.

If you're so short that you're having difficulty paying your bills you could, you know, stop giving a tenth of your wage to the church.

Au contraire Mr. Know-it-all. The Church, during the time I was unemployed, paid my rent, utilities and food. Now that I am able, I pay my 10 percent so that they can help people lilke they helped me.

This is how it is SUPPOSED to work. People volunteering to help other people, instead of being forced.

Wait, this actually just penetrated.

You're fine with people contributing money to help others - as long as its not the government forcing them to do it?

DING DING DING we have a winner.

from IndyCons
I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

Yet the Church does not consult its parish when using the money to support you.

How is this any different from a government collecting taxes and using it to support those who have fallen on hard times?

Short answer: It isn't.

You don't understand. His church only gives money to the "right" kind of people. Duh.

[Fartsniffage]

Oh, I fear you're quite mistaken about that one.

Palpatine?

[The_pantless_hero]

I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

Disorganized charity is not charity. Charity does not cover all the needs of other people all the time, or even most of the time.

[KiloMikeAlpha]

One is voluntary, the other is forced through the threat of jail time.

But if you're such a good person, that you WANT to donate, then it shouldn't bother you. No no, let me guess, it's the "principle" of it

Yeah, I want my charity to go to whomever I see fit. You should do the same.

[Neo Art]

The money is voluntary. Keep trying to rationalize forcing me to pay for others upkeep.

Didn't you JUST admit to collecting unemployment benefits?

It's like "the only moral abortion is my abortion" bullshit, but with welfare.