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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:30 am

Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadillacs? Then we will make lawyers all kinds of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:32 am

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadilacs? Then we will make lawyers all kids of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.

You do that.
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Postby Jocabia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:36 am

It really is. You're oppressed, you poor thing.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:37 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadilacs? Then we will make lawyers all kids of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.

You do that.

Yes, but remember, the Welfare Reform Act passed in the 90s set a limit of 60 months lifetime benefits on the Federal level and some states have imposed more stringent restrictions. This program also has a number of qualifications that have to be met, which differ state by state.
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Postby NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:49 am

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadillacs? Then we will make lawyers all kinds of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.

I can't imagine 68 minutes/month on what is probably a recycled phone costs the government that much. The way I see it, you need a working phone number to put on a job application so you can get OFF of welfare. The government probably saves more money than it spends, but your outrage is cute.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:54 am

NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadillacs? Then we will make lawyers all kinds of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.

I can't imagine 68 minutes/month on what is probably a recycled phone costs the government that much. The way I see it, you need a working phone number to put on a job application so you can get OFF of welfare. The government probably saves more money than it spends, but your outrage is cute.

Pretty much. Being reachable facilitates getting work, which facilitates getting off welfare.

So the question is, do we want to punish people who need welfare or do we want to get them off? If the latter than they'll need the tools to do so.

Especially if you consider the whole 68 minutes a month. You're not really going to be able to use that to ask 'where you at?'
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Postby North Suran » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:10 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

Then go for it.

'Cause Christ knows, if you actually knew how little quality of life people on benefits enjoyed, maybe you'd shut up with you generic free-rider rants.

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:This is the final straw.

Telephones.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:15 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadillacs? Then we will make lawyers all kinds of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.

I can't imagine 68 minutes/month on what is probably a recycled phone costs the government that much. The way I see it, you need a working phone number to put on a job application so you can get OFF of welfare. The government probably saves more money than it spends, but your outrage is cute.

Pretty much. Being reachable facilitates getting work, which facilitates getting off welfare.

So the question is, do we want to punish people who need welfare or do we want to get them off? If the latter than they'll need the tools to do so.

Especially if you consider the whole 68 minutes a month. You're not really going to be able to use that to ask 'where you at?'

Especially since text messages cost 0.3 minutes each. So ...

"Where U at?"
"Home, U?"
"Yeah"
"Wanna do something?"
"like what?"
"Idk"
"me neither"

That's 2.1 minutes right there.
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:19 pm

Fine if cell phones are so cheap, give them to everyone. Create a mandate that ALL citizens get free phones with certain basic services. If you want to add more then it is up to you.

*I* cant even afford the phones *I* have. And part of that is because the taxes and surcharges that I pay go for this stupid handout system. Ever hear of a PAYPHONE?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:20 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Fine if cell phones are so cheap, give them to everyone. Create a mandate that ALL citizens get free phones with certain basic services. If you want to add more then it is up to you.

*I* cant even afford the phones *I* have. And part of that is because the taxes and surcharges that I pay go for this stupid handout system. Ever hear of a PAYPHONE?


Get a better job.

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Postby NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:21 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Fine if cell phones are so cheap, give them to everyone. Create a mandate that ALL citizens get free phones with certain basic services. If you want to add more then it is up to you.

*I* cant even afford the phones *I* have. And part of that is because the taxes and surcharges that I pay go for this stupid handout system. Ever hear of a PAYPHONE?

How would giving rich people phones save the government any money?
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Postby Neo Art » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:21 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadillacs? Then we will make lawyers all kinds of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.


yup, you should definitly quit your job (which, incidentally, would disqualify you from unemployment benefits) and take you free phone (which you won't actually get because, again, you quit, but let's ignore that) and your 60 whole free minutes a month and live it up on easy street

:roll:
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:22 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Fine if cell phones are so cheap, give them to everyone. Create a mandate that ALL citizens get free phones with certain basic services. If you want to add more then it is up to you.

*I* cant even afford the phones *I* have. And part of that is because the taxes and surcharges that I pay go for this stupid handout system. Ever hear of a PAYPHONE?


Get a better job.


Umm. What should I get a better job if everything is free anyways?
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:22 pm

Mobile Phones can be as cheap as £5....... ;)

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:23 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Fine if cell phones are so cheap, give them to everyone. Create a mandate that ALL citizens get free phones with certain basic services. If you want to add more then it is up to you.

*I* cant even afford the phones *I* have. And part of that is because the taxes and surcharges that I pay go for this stupid handout system. Ever hear of a PAYPHONE?

You need to review your plans and cut back if you can't afford them. And it's sort of hard to receive calls on a PAY PHONE when it's out pn the street or in a shop or somewhere like that.
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:23 pm

Neo Art wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadillacs? Then we will make lawyers all kinds of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.


yup, you should definitly quit your job (which, incidentally, would disqualify you from unemployment benefits) and take you free phone (which you won't actually get because, again, you quit, but let's ignore that) and your 60 whole free minutes a month and live it up on easy street

:roll:


You dont have to "quit" to quit, you know.
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Postby North Suran » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:23 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Fine if cell phones are so cheap, give them to everyone. Create a mandate that ALL citizens get free phones with certain basic services. If you want to add more then it is up to you.

Not everyone is unemployed.

Owning a phone is rather integral when taking a job interview, etc.

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:*I* cant even afford the phones *I* have. And part of that is because the taxes and surcharges that I pay go for this stupid handout system. Ever hear of a PAYPHONE?

I'm sure they can just pick up a payphone from the street and drag it home with them.

Seriously, if you want to look at the people who are really sponging off the state, you need only look up.

Middle-class elites who cheat the system by dodging taxes and hiding their expenses account for more capital than those on benefits.

Incidentally, they're also the same people who espouse this "Wellfare state allows lazy bums to have champagne baths" propaganda, in order to scapegoat public attention.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:23 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm. What should I get a better job if everything is free anyways?


Then shit or get off the pot.

It's easy to quit your job you know, just stop going to work. Have fun on welfare.

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Postby North Suran » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:24 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadillacs? Then we will make lawyers all kinds of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.


yup, you should definitly quit your job (which, incidentally, would disqualify you from unemployment benefits) and take you free phone (which you won't actually get because, again, you quit, but let's ignore that) and your 60 whole free minutes a month and live it up on easy street

:roll:


You dont have to "quit" to quit, you know.

Really?

I thought that was rather integral.
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Postby Neo Art » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:24 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
yup, you should definitly quit your job (which, incidentally, would disqualify you from unemployment benefits) and take you free phone (which you won't actually get because, again, you quit, but let's ignore that) and your 60 whole free minutes a month and live it up on easy street

:roll:


You dont have to "quit" to quit, you know.


That’s certainly true, however if your employer decides to claim that you were let go for lack of work, and then suffer all relevant unemployment charges to their balance, then I suppose that’s up to them.

You’ll find few employers willing to have their tax rate go up for YOUR benefit, however.
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:25 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Are you FREAKING kidding me? Free phone for welfare recipients? What's next, free cadillacs? Then we will make lawyers all kinds of rich litigating "driving while calling" for the poor.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx

I am SERIOUSLY thinking about quitting my job, applying for welfare and spending my time playing video games and being with my wife.

This is the final straw.


yup, you should definitly quit your job (which, incidentally, would disqualify you from unemployment benefits) and take you free phone (which you won't actually get because, again, you quit, but let's ignore that) and your 60 whole free minutes a month and live it up on easy street

:roll:


You dont have to "quit" to quit, you know.

Well you go ahead and 'quit' your job and commence this grand experiment and make a documentary about how you are an uninformed, feeling-entitled git who quite his job to live on welfare that no one will care about.
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:26 pm

Neo Art wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
yup, you should definitly quit your job (which, incidentally, would disqualify you from unemployment benefits) and take you free phone (which you won't actually get because, again, you quit, but let's ignore that) and your 60 whole free minutes a month and live it up on easy street

:roll:


You dont have to "quit" to quit, you know.


That’s certainly true, however if your employer decides to claim that you were let go for lack of work, and then suffer all relevant unemployment charges to their balance, then I suppose that’s up to them.

You’ll find few employers willing to have their tax rate go up for YOUR benefit, however.


I have been asked to resign for "not fitting in". By "not fitting in" they meant that I was unwilling to charge my clients for 8 hours when I only worked 4. I resigned. I said that on the Unemployment insuracne application. I got my UI.
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Postby Neo Art » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:27 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
I have been asked to resign for "not fitting in". By "not fitting in" they meant that I was unwilling to charge my clients for 8 hours when I only worked 4. I resigned. I said that on the Unemployment insuracne application. I got my UI.


I find a certain amount of irony in someone who has collected unemployment benefits bitching about people "leeching off welfare"
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Postby North Suran » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:28 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:You dont have to "quit" to quit, you know.


That’s certainly true, however if your employer decides to claim that you were let go for lack of work, and then suffer all relevant unemployment charges to their balance, then I suppose that’s up to them.

You’ll find few employers willing to have their tax rate go up for YOUR benefit, however.


I have been asked to resign for "not fitting in". By "not fitting in" they meant that I was unwilling to charge my clients for 8 hours when I only worked 4. I resigned. I said that on the Unemployment insuracne application. I got my UI.

Your anecdotal evidence touches me at the bottom of my heart.
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:28 pm

Neo Art wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
I have been asked to resign for "not fitting in". By "not fitting in" they meant that I was unwilling to charge my clients for 8 hours when I only worked 4. I resigned. I said that on the Unemployment insuracne application. I got my UI.


I find a certain amount of irony in someone who has collected unemployment benefits bitching about people "leeching off welfare"

Especially in the irony that he CONSTANTLY bitches about it. Why did he bother getting a new job?
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