Boobs invade Notre-Dame de Paris

[Nailed to the Perch]

Yeah, that's both the selling point of and the problem with FEMEN. On the one hand, they do successfully get a lot of attention. On the other hand, very little of that attention is actually paid to any particular cause they might support.

(I'm also troubled by the fact that I have yet to see even one FEMEN activist who's not white, skinny, young, and fairly conventionally attractive. I'd have a lot more faith that the toplessness was for a serious political point if women of a variety of ages, races, and body types were whipping their tits out alongside the skinny white girls.)

First picture in the article I believe, second one across from the right.

Okay, we've got one who's young, skinny, and of indeterminate race, then, heh.

My essential point still stands, though - the fact that the only women taking their tops off meet the conventional standards for "women we as a society want to see with their tops off" concerns me somewhat.

[Big Jim P]

Yeah, that's both the selling point of and the problem with FEMEN. On the one hand, they do successfully get a lot of attention. On the other hand, very little of that attention is actually paid to any particular cause they might support.

(I'm also troubled by the fact that I have yet to see even one FEMEN activist who's not white, skinny, young, and fairly conventionally attractive. I'd have a lot more faith that the toplessness was for a serious political point if women of a variety of ages, races, and body types were whipping their tits out alongside the skinny white girls.)

Who is going to take pictures of non-white, old, saggy, fat, tits? It is possible that some women are doing this, but the media isn't trying to picture them because they won't get page-views.

Media and pop-culture was responsible for putting 12 year old model on the runway. Why? She was the only one they could find that fit the dresses.

Who will like old saggy tits? Old saggy men.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Yeah, that's both the selling point of and the problem with FEMEN. On the one hand, they do successfully get a lot of attention. On the other hand, very little of that attention is actually paid to any particular cause they might support.

(I'm also troubled by the fact that I have yet to see even one FEMEN activist who's not white, skinny, young, and fairly conventionally attractive. I'd have a lot more faith that the toplessness was for a serious political point if women of a variety of ages, races, and body types were whipping their tits out alongside the skinny white girls.)

Who is going to take pictures of non-white, old, saggy, fat, tits? It is possible that some women are doing this, but the media isn't trying to picture them because they won't get page-views.

Ding ding ding.

That's the problem: what kind of protestors are giving the people what they WANT? Protests shouldn't be about titillating, they should be about making you pay attention.

[Individuality-ness]

The neoconservative GOP like to remind us that we're the communal property of males, of course. </sarcasm>

I wouldn't go as far as communal. Some ownership is possible. We males mark our territory with little gold rings actually. It's ever so much more civilized than the alternative of having to physcially confine our harems.

But what about the unmarked territories?

[Scholencia]

@TEDi don't

from FEMEN's english web page

EMEN: FEMEN - is a global women's movement
FEMEN - is the name of the scandal famous organization of topless women activists, who defend with their breast sexual and social equality in the world.
Activists of FEMEN - are morally and physically fit soldiers, who every day make civil actions of the high degree of difficulty and provocativity. FEMEN is the founder of a new wave of feminism of the third millennium and has followers all over the world. The symbol of the organization - a wreath of flowers that adorns the head of bold women on all five continents.


FEMEN - is the name of the new woman

FEMEN - is the new Amazons, capable to undermine the foundations of the patriarchal world by their intellect, sex, agility, make disorder, bring neurosis and panic to the men's world. FEMEN – is the ability to feel the problems of the world, beat it with the naked truth and bare nerve. FEMEN – is a hot boobs, a cool head and clean hands. Be FEMEN - means to mobilize every cell of your body on a relentless struggle against centuries of slavery of women!

FEMEN – is an ideology of SEXTREMISM.
FEMEN - is a new ideology of the women's sexual protest presented by extreme topless campaigns of direct action . FEMEN – is sextremism serving to protect women's rights, democracy watchdogs attacking patriarchy, in all its forms: the dictatorship, the church, the sex industry.

The magic of the body get your interested, the courage of the act make you want to riot.

Come out, Go topless and Win!

I hope they have a life and they are not frustrated.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I wouldn't go as far as communal. Some ownership is possible. We males mark our territory with little gold rings actually. It's ever so much more civilized than the alternative of having to physcially confine our harems.

But what about the unmarked territories?

Fair game, more or less. We actually hold contests to see who can get the ring on their fingers the quickest. I believe it's called "courting" or "dating", or something like that.

[Vitaphone Racing]

First picture in the article I believe, second one across from the right.

Okay, we've got one who's young, skinny, and of indeterminate race, then, heh.

My essential point still stands, though - the fact that the only women taking their tops off meet the conventional standards for "women we as a society want to see with their tops off" concerns me somewhat.

I think you're looking into this a little bit too deeply; I doubt these girls were selected to take part in this event because of their looks or personality or that FEMEN would discriminate against girls who didn't fit these standards. It is perhaps likely that some potential protestors were maybe turned off by low self-esteem I presume but I think norming to societal standards was the last thing FEMEN had on their minds.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Yeah, that's both the selling point of and the problem with FEMEN. On the one hand, they do successfully get a lot of attention. On the other hand, very little of that attention is actually paid to any particular cause they might support.

(I'm also troubled by the fact that I have yet to see even one FEMEN activist who's not white, skinny, young, and fairly conventionally attractive. I'd have a lot more faith that the toplessness was for a serious political point if women of a variety of ages, races, and body types were whipping their tits out alongside the skinny white girls.)

they are from the ukraine, skinny white girls is all they got, they are not all pretty, next week when the traffic dies down go to their web site

Heh, I'll give you the "white," but I'm pretty sure Ukraine contains fat people, disabled people, people over the age of 25, etc.

[Individuality-ness]

But what about the unmarked territories?

Fair game, more or less. We actually hold contests to see who can get the ring on their fingers the quickest. I believe it's called "courting" or "dating", or something like that.

But it seems that you males are only limited to one.

[Ethel mermania]

Who is going to take pictures of non-white, old, saggy, fat, tits? It is possible that some women are doing this, but the media isn't trying to picture them because they won't get page-views.

Ding ding ding.

That's the problem: what kind of protestors are giving the people what they WANT? Protests shouldn't be about titillating, they should be about making you pay attention.

again check their web page out, and watch the video's of the protest they are not all pretty, and they are all pretty fierce. It gets attention and there is nothing sexual about how they go about their business ..... unfortunately.

[Big Jim P]

I wouldn't go as far as communal. Some ownership is possible. We males mark our territory with little gold rings actually. It's ever so much more civilized than the alternative of having to physcially confine our harems.

But what about the unmarked territories?

Some of us men wear a small mark as well, often in the form of a small gold ring (in my case, silver, I will NOT wear gold as an ornament and cannot due to safety hazards at work). I do not need to lay claim on Roan. We claim each other.

[Calimera II]

Punish these disrespectfull, stupid people. They have the right to protest, but there are limits.

[Ethel mermania]

they are from the ukraine, skinny white girls is all they got, they are not all pretty, next week when the traffic dies down go to their web site

Heh, I'll give you the "white," but I'm pretty sure Ukraine contains fat people, disabled people, people over the age of 25, etc.

you need processed foods, and lots of regular food for fat. also lots of cars.


anyway its dinner time laterz

www.femen.org, they do have an english page somewhere

[G-Tech Corporation]

Fair game, more or less. We actually hold contests to see who can get the ring on their fingers the quickest. I believe it's called "courting" or "dating", or something like that.

But it seems that you males are only limited to one.

Oh no, most assuredly not. There's always time to get into mischief with the females that other men have claimed (it's even a lot of fun and quite socially respected amongst other males, as long as you aren't messing with their property), and when we get bored with our current females all you have to do is take the ring back. Then you can try and catch a different girlie, often with the same ring. It's a very efficient mindset, not even wasting the gold. Serial monogamy is a beautiful thing.

[Individuality-ness]

But what about the unmarked territories?

Some of us men wear a small mark as well, often in the form of a small gold ring (in my case, silver, I will NOT wear gold as an ornament and cannot due to safety hazards at work). I do not need to lay claim on Roan. We claim each other.

D'awww...

Punish these disrespectfull, stupid people. They have the right to protest, but there are limits.

How are they disrespectful? How are they stupid? How did you judge? What are the limits then?

[Roan Cara]

But what about the unmarked territories?

Some of us men were a small mark as well, often in the form of a small gold ring (in my case, silver, I will NOT wear gold as an ornament and cannot due to safety hazzards at work). I do not need to lay claim on Roan. We claim each other.

exactly, to me it is more a point of having something physical on me to show that yes I am married and also I can look at it or touch it and think of Jim when we are not together. It is not really about laying a claim. I like to know he is wearing his because I like to think of having that connection and that he is proud to be married to me and this is a subtle way of showing that. I know it is not for everyone and more power to them but it does mean something to me.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Punish these disrespectfull, stupid people. They have the right to protest, but there are limits.

According to the law, no, there wasn't really.

[Costa Alegria]

I don't really give a flying fuck to be honest. I mean, it's not like the church has a squeaky clean record and I know most of those attending (which is fuck all, because the tourists outnumber those actually attending the service) wouldn't want a bunch of naked people running around their sacred place of worship, but it isn't like they aren't exposed to partial nudity when they go to the beach anyway.

[Vitaphone Racing]

But it seems that you males are only limited to one.

Oh no, most assuredly not. There's always time to get into mischief with the females that other men have claimed (it's even a lot of fun and quite socially respected amongst other males, as long as you aren't messing with their property), and when we get bored with our current females all you have to do is take the ring back. Then you can try and catch a different girlie, often with the same ring. It's a very efficient mindset, not even wasting the gold. Serial monogamy is a beautiful thing.

Yet the usual reaction amongst men when a woman is the serial monogamist tends to be vastly different.

[Calimera II]

Punish these disrespectfull, stupid people. They have the right to protest, but there are limits.

According to the law, no, there wasn't really.

With limits I was mentioning norms and values.

[Big Jim P]

Some of us men wear a small mark as well, often in the form of a small gold ring (in my case, silver, I will NOT wear gold as an ornament and cannot due to safety hazards at work). I do not need to lay claim on Roan. We claim each other.

D'awww...

the real mark is in my heart.

[The Emerald Dawn]

According to the law, no, there wasn't really.

With limits I was mentioning norms and values.

Who's norms and who's values? Certainly not many of the people who have posted herein.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Some of us men were a small mark as well, often in the form of a small gold ring (in my case, silver, I will NOT wear gold as an ornament and cannot due to safety hazzards at work). I do not need to lay claim on Roan. We claim each other.

exactly, to me it is more a point of having something physical on me to show that yes I am married and also I can look at it or touch it and think of Jim when we are not together. It is not really about laying a claim. I like to know he is wearing his because I like to think of having that connection and that he is proud to be married to me and this is a subtle way of showing that. I know it is not for everyone and more power to them but it does mean something to me.

Friggin adorable. Though, in my experience, couples that start out with rings and then 'transition' to not wearing them are not getting more comfortable with each other, but rather attempting to pass themselves off as single. Generally not a good sign.

[The Emerald Dawn]

D'awww...

the real mark is in my heart.

You shouldn't tattoo your heart, that's dangerous, and no one can see it.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Oh no, most assuredly not. There's always time to get into mischief with the females that other men have claimed (it's even a lot of fun and quite socially respected amongst other males, as long as you aren't messing with their property), and when we get bored with our current females all you have to do is take the ring back. Then you can try and catch a different girlie, often with the same ring. It's a very efficient mindset, not even wasting the gold. Serial monogamy is a beautiful thing.

Yet the usual reaction amongst men when a woman is the serial monogamist tends to be vastly different.

Think of the first word that comes to mind when you consider a name for a sexually active male.

Then do the same for a sexually active female.

Double standard, apparent.