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H1N1 Vaccine: will you get it or not?

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Will you get the H1N1 vaccine? (or have already gotten it?)

Yes.
35
28%
No.
71
58%
Undecided.
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14%
 
Total votes : 123

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Fassitude
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Postby Fassitude » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:05 pm

Neesika wrote:The conspiracy theories I'm hearing are in regards to thimerosol (a mercury derivative). There have long been theories about vaccines with thimerosol causing autism in children. Of course, new vaccine, new batch of conspiracy theories.

Oh, don't get me started on that lunacy! There is no such link, it's been debunked over and over again... and besides, the mercury contents of this vaccine is less than the normal person ingests in three days as a part of their diet. Morons!

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Postby Diamagra » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:10 pm

Do we have a doctor or a biologist here on NS? Can someone recruit one. Some solid background would be helpful.
Again, isn't swine flu especially dangerous for young people?

At least wiki agrees:
In industrialized countries, severe illness and deaths occur mainly in the high-risk populations of infants, the elderly, and chronically ill patients,[14] although the swine flu outbreak (as well as the 1918 Spanish flu) differs in its tendency to affect younger, healthier people.
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Sumamba Buwhan
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Postby Sumamba Buwhan » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:15 pm

Meh, don't think I will get it. Too lazy. I'll just take my chances. I have a suspicion that I already got the pig flu anyway. If not then either I die or I get miserably sick.
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Postby Yenke-Bin » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:21 pm

No, because then Barack Obama would be able to control my mind!!!
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Postby The Horror Channel » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:22 pm

I'm moving from one college town to another, only the new one is much more densely populated. I'll have to decide if i'm getting it or not after I find work, basing my decision mostly on the kind of job I get.

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Les Drapeaux Brulants
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Postby Les Drapeaux Brulants » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:23 pm

Neesika wrote:The vaccine has become widely available here in Canukistan, and it's actually caused a lot of controversy among most of the people I know. Some aren't sure it's necessary and are really torn on getting it or not. There is also a lot of conflicting information out there on the possible dangers of the vaccine, and a lot of fear mongering on both sides.

On a practical level, this causes people confusion and muddies the waters. It's free here btw, for most people, so the only factor is 'is it necessary, is it safe' for many. I can understand cost being an additional factor that could change answers.

In any case, will you get the vaccine or not? Why or why not? Maybe we can get some good sources up about the pros/cons concerns/fears and so on.

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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:34 pm

Neesika wrote:The vaccine has become widely available here in Canukistan, and it's actually caused a lot of controversy among most of the people I know. Some aren't sure it's necessary and are really torn on getting it or not. There is also a lot of conflicting information out there on the possible dangers of the vaccine, and a lot of fear mongering on both sides.

On a practical level, this causes people confusion and muddies the waters. It's free here btw, for most people, so the only factor is 'is it necessary, is it safe' for many. I can understand cost being an additional factor that could change answers.

In any case, will you get the vaccine or not? Why or why not? Maybe we can get some good sources up about the pros/cons concerns/fears and so on.

No, because that would require going to a doctor which is something I do not do.
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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:08 pm

id like to get it today.

how i will feel when the time comes when i can actually get it, i dont know.
whatever

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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:09 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Neesika wrote:The vaccine has become widely available here in Canukistan, and it's actually caused a lot of controversy among most of the people I know. Some aren't sure it's necessary and are really torn on getting it or not. There is also a lot of conflicting information out there on the possible dangers of the vaccine, and a lot of fear mongering on both sides.

On a practical level, this causes people confusion and muddies the waters. It's free here btw, for most people, so the only factor is 'is it necessary, is it safe' for many. I can understand cost being an additional factor that could change answers.

In any case, will you get the vaccine or not? Why or why not? Maybe we can get some good sources up about the pros/cons concerns/fears and so on.

No, because that would require going to a doctor which is something I do not do.

oh i would never go to the doctor to get it, if i cant get it at walmart pharmacy i wont get it.
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Brajh
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Postby Brajh » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:38 pm

I'm not getting it. It's seriously a waste of time. If I get swine flu, I'll be fine after a few days. And honestly, I just don't give a shit about it.
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Postby Poliwanacraca » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:49 pm

I will almost certainly get it when it becomes available and if I can find the money. For some reason, flu and my body really, really don't get along. I've gotten dangerously ill more than once from the ordinary seasonal flu, and so letting myself get a worse-than-usual strain does not sound like a particularly good idea.
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Postby Neesika » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:20 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Neesika wrote:The conspiracy theories I'm hearing are in regards to thimerosol (a mercury derivative). There have long been theories about vaccines with thimerosol causing autism in children. Of course, new vaccine, new batch of conspiracy theories.

Oh, don't get me started on that lunacy! There is no such link, it's been debunked over and over again... and besides, the mercury contents of this vaccine is less than the normal person ingests in three days as a part of their diet. Morons!

Hence my comment about the tuna. It's sad seeing people who apparently missed the crazy 'vaccines give your kids autism' crap, who are now fearing it in regards to this vaccine. I'm getting tired of mocking people on Facebook for it.
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Postby Dakini » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:12 pm

Nope.

I don't think the vaccine is dangerous, but I also don't think that swine flu is particularly dangerous to me. I mean, yes, people in my age group have died of it, but usually they have underlying health issues.

In addition, they use gelatin from pigs as a stabilizing agent in the vaccine. If they want to start making unnecessary vaccines that don't kill pigs, I'll start taking them.

Not to mention that using pig gelatin is pretty stupid since anyone who keeps Kosher or Halal can't have them either.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:13 pm

I already caught H1N1. It was a bitch.
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:14 pm

No, I've basically decided that if I get it, I get it.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:14 pm

Dakini wrote:Not to mention that using pig gelatin is pretty stupid since anyone who keeps Kosher or Halal can't have them either.


So it is a conspiracy. :shock:

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Mexar
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Postby Mexar » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:16 pm

Nope! I don't get or need the seasonal flu shot, and I have little reason to worry about the pig flu.

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Dakini
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Postby Dakini » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:18 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Dakini wrote:Not to mention that using pig gelatin is pretty stupid since anyone who keeps Kosher or Halal can't have them either.


So it is a conspiracy. :shock:

Totally.

Although I heard that people who get the regular flu shot every year are more likely to get the swine flu... so there might be something to letting your immune system duke it out on its own.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:19 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Dakini wrote:Not to mention that using pig gelatin is pretty stupid since anyone who keeps Kosher or Halal can't have them either.


So it is a conspiracy. :shock:


It is? :blink:
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:21 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:It is? :blink:


Biological warfare against the muslims and jews.

Mexico is well known for colluding with the American government in this sort of thing. *nods*

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Bergnovinaia
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Postby Bergnovinaia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:21 pm

Never had the flu, never wil. I never get the vaccines either... What gets me though, is that the world freaks out becuase we add "swine" in front of a common illness that targets a different age group. News flash, the normal flu kills more people than the swine flu!
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:22 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:It is? :blink:


Biological warfare against the muslims and jews.

Mexico is well known for colluding with the American government in this sort of thing. *nods*


Oh my, I didn't know. Ebil 'mericans and shyte. :p
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:22 pm

Dakini wrote:Totally.

Although I heard that people who get the regular flu shot every year are more likely to get the swine flu... so there might be something to letting your immune system duke it out on its own.


I had what I'm assuming was swine flu, parents confirmed but not me, and knocked it out in 4 days so I'm not too worried by it.

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Postby Mirkana » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:26 pm

Got it on Saturday. My county's since run out.

If your area has any vaccine, and you are in a high-risk demographic, get vaccinated. If not for yourself, then to avoid spreading the infection to others.
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Postby Bergnovinaia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:27 pm

Mirkana wrote:Got it on Saturday. My county's since run out.

If your area has any vaccine, and you are in a high-risk demographic, get vaccinated. If not for yourself, then to avoid spreading the infection to others.


What's the point? As I have stated...

Bergnovinaia wrote:Never had the flu, never wil. I never get the vaccines either... What gets me though, is that the world freaks out becuase we add "swine" in front of a common illness that targets a different age group. News flash, the normal flu kills more people than the swine flu!
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