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H1N1 Vaccine: will you get it or not?

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Will you get the H1N1 vaccine? (or have already gotten it?)

Yes.
35
28%
No.
71
58%
Undecided.
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14%
 
Total votes : 123

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Fartsniffage
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:14 pm

Tunizcha wrote:Well, we still have H5N1.


That isn't scary either.

I'll worry when it actually mutates into a human to human disease, until then I'll just avoid rogering pigeons. It's a large sacrifice but I'm willing to make it.

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Walabamba
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Postby Walabamba » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:17 pm

What I don't get is people don't realize that the chance of getting a really bad case of Swine flu is A LOT higher than getting side effects from the vaccine which makes you 100% safe from the flu.
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Kharsus
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Postby Kharsus » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:18 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:Well, we still have H5N1.


That isn't scary either.

I'll worry when it actually mutates into a human to human disease, until then I'll just avoid rogering pigeons. It's a large sacrifice but I'm willing to make it.


Hahahaha............who honestly does that to pigeons?
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Walabamba
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Postby Walabamba » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:21 pm

Diamagra wrote: :palm:
Seriously, this is getting annoying.
a) The swine flu kills young and healthy people, not the old and already weak ones as the normal flu.
b) It's not about total numbers. The swine flu could just stay as it is right now and kill quite a few young people that would normally not have a problem with the flu. Tragic, sure, but not horrifying. The problem is that this virus could mutate and become way more dangerous. The seasonal flu mutates too, each year a little so some of us get sick again. Oh yeah, evolution at work, I love it. The difference with the swine flu is that nobody has any immunity. It has the potential to for a pandemic!

If the seasonal flu mutates, we get another seasonal flu, some get sick, most don't. Let's make this extra clear: Even if the seasonal flu gets more aggressive and has suddenly a higher mortality rate, this would not be that bad since a lot of people have a natural immunity.
If the swine flu mutates into something more aggressive, we are royally fucked.

Watch this! You don't even have to watch the whole 10 minutes.
But please, inform yourself. This is getting annoying...



This makes total sense, thank you! :hug:
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Dakini
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Postby Dakini » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:23 pm

Walabamba wrote:What I don't get is people don't realize that the chance of getting a really bad case of Swine flu is A LOT higher than getting side effects from the vaccine which makes you 100% safe from the flu.

...if you're in a high risk group.

If you don't have asthma, diabetes et c... then you're probably ok.

And well, getting the seasonal flu shot every year might put you at a higher risk of getting swine flu this year.

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Blouman Empire
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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:35 pm

Hydesland wrote:I'm young and (AFAIK) healthy, so I probably wont be needing it.


You do know that the swine flu has tended to target the young and fairly healthy people.
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Blouman Empire
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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:39 pm

Diamagra wrote:I'm not 100% sure, but isn't the swine flue especially dangerous for young people and not so much for the usual victims, the old and sick?


Yes that is true, the reason behind this theory based on the fact that it is mainly targeting young people and not the old is because it is believed that something similar spread around the world a few decades ago and so these people have already built up an immunity.
You know you've made it on NSG when you have a whole thread created around what you said.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:46 pm

No I won't be getting the vaccine any time soon. I went to Melbourne during the height of the hype, Melbourne being the city where the vast majority of confirmed cases in Australia are and never got it then, don't really see why I should get one now.

If I were to travel oversees then I would probably get a regular flu shot, along with any other recommended shots depending on where I was going.
You know you've made it on NSG when you have a whole thread created around what you said.
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States United as One
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Postby States United as One » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:46 pm

Heck no! No H1N1 Vacc. is comin' near me! Many people have gotten more sick then they would if the got the H1N1 FLU! A lady took it, and she can no longer function normally, she can't talk right anymore, and can't even walk right! It was rushed waaay to fast!

I'm young, and healthy too, also, I say NO to the H1N1 Vaccination!!!
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Kantria
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Postby Kantria » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:48 pm

States United as One wrote:Heck no! No H1N1 Vacc. is comin' near me! Many people have gotten more sick then they would if the got the H1N1 FLU! A lady took it, and she can no longer function normally, she can't talk right anymore, and can't even walk right! It was rushed waaay to fast!


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Fartsniffage
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:49 pm

States United as One wrote:Heck no! No H1N1 Vacc. is comin' near me! Many people have gotten more sick then they would if the got the H1N1 FLU! A lady took it, and she can no longer function normally, she can't talk right anymore, and can't even walk right! It was rushed waaay to fast!

I'm young, and healthy too, also, I say NO to the H1N1 Vaccination!!!


Where is the news story for that? It's a huge deal so someone must have reported it.

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Milks Empire
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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:51 pm

States United as One wrote:I'm young, and healthy too, also, I say NO to the H1N1 Vaccination!!! [/b][/size][/align]

:palm:
That's precisely the group most at risk for H1N1!
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Postby Dakini » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:56 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
States United as One wrote:I'm young, and healthy too, also, I say NO to the H1N1 Vaccination!!! [/b][/size][/align]

:palm:
That's precisely the group most at risk for H1N1!

Umm.. if by "healthy" you mean "has a previously existing health problem" then yes.

The people who are at most risk for complications or serious illness with this flu are under 50 with pre-existing health problems like diabetes and asthma.
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States United as One
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Postby States United as One » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:57 pm

My mistake ALL, I it was on the news that this happend to the woman, BUT the news also had a correction, they said Swine Flu Shot, the ment to say REGULAR Flue shot...But still, I am not going to get it! People are more sick that H1N1 Flu! Heck no!
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Milks Empire
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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:57 pm

Dakini wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:
States United as One wrote:I'm young, and healthy too, also, I say NO to the H1N1 Vaccination!!! [/b][/size][/align]

:palm:
That's precisely the group most at risk for H1N1!

Umm.. if by "healthy" you mean "has a previously existing health problem" then yes.

The people who are at most risk for complications or serious illness with this flu are under 50 with pre-existing health problems like diabetes and asthma.

Minor fix for accuracy.

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States United as One
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Postby States United as One » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:59 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Dakini wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:
States United as One wrote:I'm young, and healthy too, also, I say NO to the H1N1 Vaccination!!! [/b][/size][/align]

:palm:
That's precisely the group most at risk for H1N1!

Umm.. if by "healthy" you mean "has a previously existing health problem" then yes.

The people who are at most risk for complications or serious illness with this flu are under 50 with pre-existing health problems like diabetes and asthma.

Minor fix for accuracy.


I'm only 15...nd yes, young, and healthy....healthy because I went to the Doctors last week with him saying "You are the healthiest kid I've seen in a while these days.." Jeez...It was just a comment I made..no need to go crazy guys..
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government, and I'm here to help'"-President Reagan
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"A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a Depression is when you lose yours, and Recovery, is when [President] Jimmy Carter looses his."-Ronald Reagan
Here is my version of this quote "A recession is when your neighbor looses his job, a Depression is when you loose yours, and Recovery, is when [President] Barack Obama looses his."-States United

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:00 pm

States United as One wrote:My mistake ALL, I it was on the news that this happend to the woman, BUT the news also had a correction, they said Swine Flu Shot, the ment to say REGULAR Flue shot...But still, I am not going to get it! People are more sick that H1N1 Flu! Heck no!


What people are more ill after the vaccine than after having swine flu?

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States United as One
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Postby States United as One » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:00 pm

AND, I have NO asthma..
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"A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a Depression is when you lose yours, and Recovery, is when [President] Jimmy Carter looses his."-Ronald Reagan
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Kantria
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Postby Kantria » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:00 pm

States United as One wrote:My mistake ALL, I it was on the news that this happend to the woman, BUT the news also had a correction, they said Swine Flu Shot, the ment to say REGULAR Flue shot...But still, I am not going to get it! People are more sick that H1N1 Flu! Heck no!


Well, at least you corrected yourself. Still, I think you're being just a tad paranoid. There are risks associated with every vaccine. The vast majority of those vaccinated will experience only minor complications, if any.
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Postby Takaram » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:00 pm

States United as One wrote:My mistake ALL, I it was on the news that this happend to the woman, BUT the news also had a correction, they said Swine Flu Shot, the ment to say REGULAR Flue shot...But still, I am not going to get it! People are more sick that H1N1 Flu! Heck no!


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Postby Dakini » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:01 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Dakini wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:
States United as One wrote:I'm young, and healthy too, also, I say NO to the H1N1 Vaccination!!! [/b][/size][/align]

:palm:
That's precisely the group most at risk for H1N1!

Umm.. if by "healthy" you mean "has a previously existing health problem" then yes.

The people who are at most risk for complications or serious illness with this flu are under 50 with pre-existing health problems like diabetes and asthma.

Minor fix for accuracy.

Except that the young and healthy person who doesn't have other health problems is not really at risk for this. So no, the young and healthy are not precisely the most at risk.

edit: Except pregnant women and those who recently gave birth... they're also at risk.
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Postby States United as One » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:01 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
States United as One wrote:My mistake ALL, I it was on the news that this happend to the woman, BUT the news also had a correction, they said Swine Flu Shot, the ment to say REGULAR Flue shot...But still, I am not going to get it! People are more sick that H1N1 Flu! Heck no!


What people are more ill after the vaccine than after having swine flu?


Do any of you guys NOT watch the news?! Many have died from it here in CA, also, I pregnant woman died from the Swine FLU, not the shot...she and the baby both died.. :/
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"A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a Depression is when you lose yours, and Recovery, is when [President] Jimmy Carter looses his."-Ronald Reagan
Here is my version of this quote "A recession is when your neighbor looses his job, a Depression is when you loose yours, and Recovery, is when [President] Barack Obama looses his."-States United

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Postby Justorica » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:02 pm

I will not be getting it as I don't believe I need it. If I get it I will treat it as the regular flu, and by teating it as the average flu, it will act as the average flu. That's MY version of logic.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:02 pm

States United as One wrote:I'm only 15...nd yes, young, and healthy....healthy because I went to the Doctors last week with him saying "You are the healthiest kid I've seen in a while these days.." Jeez...It was just a comment I made..no need to go crazy guys..


I'm assuming you're British from your flag.

Thankfully it isn't your choice, you're under 16 so the choice sits with your parents. Hopefully they have more sense than you.

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Postby Ajax Prime » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:02 pm

i think the media is just making it sound worse than it is. and its a trust thing, i trust others to wash their hands.
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