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Postby Tech-gnosis » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:45 am

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Tech-gnosis wrote:What's the term for a guy who like a girl to anally penetrate him?

Awesome?


More specific.

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Postby Neesika » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:45 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
And I am sure that you have found that there are many men that just won't do it. About half of my guy friends that I have talked to about this are really anti-buttsex.

Not nearly as many men who aren't into it as women, but that makes sense. If you don't do it properly it's more likely to hurt the female in the equation than the man. It's true though, some men find the idea a real turn off, which is fine. Ditto with women. I don't get it, but it's not my job to get it.
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Postby Folk Metals » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:46 am

Tech-gnosis wrote:What's the term for a guy who like a girl to anally penetrate him?

Whatever it is....*raises hand*

I think the term my girl uses is, "You kinky bitch."

But that's a bit vulgar. :p

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:49 am

Neesika wrote:
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Neesika wrote:As someone who loves anal, and who loves to watch anal, I have to say that I LIKE the fact that anal is still somewhat taboo. I'm not sure I'd be so into it if it weren't. If it weren't a 'kink' it probably wouldn't turn my crank as much. Up with taboo!

Slight tangent, but I suspect some of the "anti-gay" crusaders have this same motivation...after all, so many of them turn out to be closeted homosexuals, and you've got to wonder if they're trying to keep homosexuality taboo because that way it's still dirty and thrilling for them. :D

I have considered this possibility many times!


Or even if they arent gay they use gays as the scapegoat for their own wickedness. Like look at me. I could say, hey I may be a buttrat but at least I am not gay. I probably do think that way a bit. You know, make myself feel better by looking down on others. It is nothing to be proud of but if it is there do not lie to yourself.

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Postby Mooseica » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:50 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:Does anybody else think it is a shame that there is a popular show "Will and Grace" that has openly gay characters, but no TV shows have openly straight anal sex oriented men as characters? We are apparently seen by society as something less acceptable than homosexual men and single (by choice) moms. What was that show that had the single mom? Oh heck even House has a powerful intelligent nice and feminine character who is a single mom.

We are lower than single moms. We are lower than homosexual men. We are probably higher than necrophiliacs, those who have relations with beasts, furries, and pedos. What is so bad about us?


Just a small note; the reason there probably aren't m/any shows based around the anal sex orientated straight male theme is probably because it doesn't lend itself so well to sitcom humour - once you've done the 'I'd only want to have sex with my female flatmate if it was up the bum', there's not really much else to go with.

With the obvious exception of the marvellous puns we've already thrown out.

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:55 am

I have actually worried that I would not be able to have children because I find the act of ejaculating into a woman's vagina to be so unpleasant. I have been working on it and I am getting to the point where I can do it but I dont really like it. The only female butt sex purist that I ever had asked me why I had sex with her vaginally once and came in her that way. I told her I though that this was the way I thought women wanted it when they wanted like really romantic sex.

As a buttrat, when I try to act like a normal man it just makes it all so awkward. I guess I was just meant to be me. It has taken a while to become so accepting of myself. Imagine being a teenager and going out on dates with girls and stuff and being so shy and ashamed of your sexual orientation. It really sucked. I know it is an awkward time for everyone but my sexual orientation made it much worse. Being a buttrat may seem like a joke or like no big deal to someone who is not one but it is really actually very difficult to be a buttrat. Now if all of the girls out there were anal sex nuts like me, and you were the wierdo who liked vaginas exclusively, you would feel really wierd about it too (I also know that this is impossible because there would be so little reproduction going on we would all be extinct).

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:01 am

Mooseica wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:Does anybody else think it is a shame that there is a popular show "Will and Grace" that has openly gay characters, but no TV shows have openly straight anal sex oriented men as characters? We are apparently seen by society as something less acceptable than homosexual men and single (by choice) moms. What was that show that had the single mom? Oh heck even House has a powerful intelligent nice and feminine character who is a single mom.

We are lower than single moms. We are lower than homosexual men. We are probably higher than necrophiliacs, those who have relations with beasts, furries, and pedos. What is so bad about us?


Just a small note; the reason there probably aren't m/any shows based around the anal sex orientated straight male theme is probably because it doesn't lend itself so well to sitcom humour - once you've done the 'I'd only want to have sex with my female flatmate if it was up the bum', there's not really much else to go with.

With the obvious exception of the marvellous puns we've already thrown out.


I read somewhere that there was a French movie about some gay men that hated vaginas (I am uncomfortable with having penis-vagina sex and very uncomfortable with ejaculating in them but I am not a vagina hater like these characters and I am also not gay of course. One of these guys has a woman fall in love with him and they have some sort of a not very good relationship. They eventualluy have sex but only anally.

This French movie that I never saw and does not really 100% reflect me is the only cultural reference point I have to people even vaguely like me. I would LOVE to see a sit com where somebody acted like me and with whom I could relate to. It might not seem like a big deal to you but it would be huge for me and to any other fellow buttrats out there that are like me.

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Postby Little Jim P » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:03 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Well not calling your self a butt rat, may help a bit. :)


I agree, butt squirrel is so much better :)


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Postby Neesika » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:04 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:I have actually worried that I would not be able to have children because I find the act of ejaculating into a woman's vagina to be so unpleasant.
That sucks, sorry. I know of one other guy like that and it wasn't something he was very happy about. Seems like a fetish really, when that's the only way you can really get satisfaction. All in all a pretty mild one, to be honest. Just be glad you're not into other things that are much less likely to happen.
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Postby Sidebody » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:06 am

Tech-gnosis wrote:
Neesika wrote:
Tech-gnosis wrote:What's the term for a guy who like a girl to anally penetrate him?

Awesome?


More specific.


The act is 'pegging' so perhaps 'peggy' would fit?

Never really considered it to be honest. Just happy to be involved :p

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Postby Vault 10 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:08 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:My sexual orientation is that I am a straight male who only really likes anal sex.

Here's your mistake.

Ever considered that you could be just too homophobic to embrace your gay side?
There is a line most people say they will never cross. It is usually something they have done long ago when they thought no one was watching.




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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:12 am

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Glorious Freedonia wrote:My sexual orientation is that I am a straight male who only really likes anal sex.

Here's your mistake.

Ever considered that you could be just too homophobic to embrace your gay side?


Of course I do. But it is like the same sort of question that you ask yourself when you ask, "What if everything I ever known and remember is all just the dream of a madman locked up in a nuthouse. All of the people I ever met, all of the books I ever read, all the movies I ever saw were all just the dreams of a madman. Maybe I do not really exist."

The one girlfriend that I had who was the most sexually compaible with this buttrat even thought I was gay. It is the first thing that comes to mind when people think about a buttrat.

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Postby Neesika » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:13 am

Vault 10 wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:My sexual orientation is that I am a straight male who only really likes anal sex.

Here's your mistake.

Ever considered that you could be just too homophobic to embrace your gay side?

Here's your mistake.

Suggesting a sexual act is 'gay' or 'hetereosexual'.

I think part of the problem GF faces internally and externally is the idea that anal sex is gay. Notice he has a number of times affirmed he means only anal sex with women, and I think that's telling. He's suggested he might be trying to differentiate himself from gay men who engage in anal sex. I think he probably also does it because of comments like yours.

Just because he likes fucking women in the ass doesn't mean you could put a guy in front of him and he'd be all for it. Who the ass belongs to matters.
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Postby Mooseica » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:13 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Mooseica wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:Does anybody else think it is a shame that there is a popular show "Will and Grace" that has openly gay characters, but no TV shows have openly straight anal sex oriented men as characters? We are apparently seen by society as something less acceptable than homosexual men and single (by choice) moms. What was that show that had the single mom? Oh heck even House has a powerful intelligent nice and feminine character who is a single mom.

We are lower than single moms. We are lower than homosexual men. We are probably higher than necrophiliacs, those who have relations with beasts, furries, and pedos. What is so bad about us?


Just a small note; the reason there probably aren't m/any shows based around the anal sex orientated straight male theme is probably because it doesn't lend itself so well to sitcom humour - once you've done the 'I'd only want to have sex with my female flatmate if it was up the bum', there's not really much else to go with.

With the obvious exception of the marvellous puns we've already thrown out.


I read somewhere that there was a French movie about some gay men that hated vaginas (I am uncomfortable with having penis-vagina sex and very uncomfortable with ejaculating in them but I am not a vagina hater like these characters and I am also not gay of course. One of these guys has a woman fall in love with him and they have some sort of a not very good relationship. They eventualluy have sex but only anally.

This French movie that I never saw and does not really 100% reflect me is the only cultural reference point I have to people even vaguely like me. I would LOVE to see a sit com where somebody acted like me and with whom I could relate to. It might not seem like a big deal to you but it would be huge for me and to any other fellow buttrats out there that are like me.


I expect that if you could come up with sufficient material to fuel a TV series you could make a good go of it - bear in mind it'd have to be much more than you'd have for a film. Also, it if that was your basic premise you'd have to have enough material relating to that theme to make it different to all the other sitcoms.

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:14 am

Neesika wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:I have actually worried that I would not be able to have children because I find the act of ejaculating into a woman's vagina to be so unpleasant.
That sucks, sorry. I know of one other guy like that and it wasn't something he was very happy about. Seems like a fetish really, when that's the only way you can really get satisfaction. All in all a pretty mild one, to be honest. Just be glad you're not into other things that are much less likely to happen.


Wow! Thanks Neesika. You let me know that there is another buttrat out there. I feel a little less alone.

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Postby Folk Metals » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:18 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Neesika wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:I have actually worried that I would not be able to have children because I find the act of ejaculating into a woman's vagina to be so unpleasant.
That sucks, sorry. I know of one other guy like that and it wasn't something he was very happy about. Seems like a fetish really, when that's the only way you can really get satisfaction. All in all a pretty mild one, to be honest. Just be glad you're not into other things that are much less likely to happen.


Wow! Thanks Neesika. You let me know that there is another buttrat out there. I feel a little less alone.

Hey, I already said I was one too. :(

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Postby Flameswroth » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:19 am

Neesika wrote:I think part of the problem GF faces internally and externally is the idea that anal sex is gay. Notice he has a number of times affirmed he means only anal sex with women, and I think that's telling. He's suggested he might be trying to differentiate himself from gay men who engage in anal sex. I think he probably also does it because of comments like yours.

Well I think the gentlemen doth protest too much. :)
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That is the gayest fucking shit I've ever heard, and I had Barry Manilow perform at the White House in '82.



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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:19 am

Neesika wrote:
Vault 10 wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:My sexual orientation is that I am a straight male who only really likes anal sex.

Here's your mistake.

Ever considered that you could be just too homophobic to embrace your gay side?

Here's your mistake.

Suggesting a sexual act is 'gay' or 'hetereosexual'.

I think part of the problem GF faces internally and externally is the idea that anal sex is gay. Notice he has a number of times affirmed he means only anal sex with women, and I think that's telling. He's suggested he might be trying to differentiate himself from gay men who engage in anal sex. I think he probably also does it because of comments like yours.

Just because he likes fucking women in the ass doesn't mean you could put a guy in front of him and he'd be all for it. Who the ass belongs to matters.


Thanks again. I have had to deal with this whole question of "are you gay because you like buttsex" thing in the past and today on this forum. It does not really bother me when people ask about it on the forum but it really hurt my feelings when my then girlfriend wondered about it. I try to be honest with everyone and it hurt that she thought I was lying when I told her that I was not gay. This lack of trust of course led to our breakup.

Even more fundamentally, instead of wondering if I am gay (which I really do not do too much) I do wonder if I am a real man. After all, being a man is largely defined by the normal sex act. When you really are not into that act, it makes you wonder not if you are gay but if you are abnormal or not a real man.

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:21 am

Folk Metals wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Neesika wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:I have actually worried that I would not be able to have children because I find the act of ejaculating into a woman's vagina to be so unpleasant.
That sucks, sorry. I know of one other guy like that and it wasn't something he was very happy about. Seems like a fetish really, when that's the only way you can really get satisfaction. All in all a pretty mild one, to be honest. Just be glad you're not into other things that are much less likely to happen.


Wow! Thanks Neesika. You let me know that there is another buttrat out there. I feel a little less alone.

Hey, I already said I was one too. :(


You are a buttrat if you at least remarkably prefer anal to vaginal intercourse. High five and welcome to the club if you are one. Simply engaging in butt sex is probably not enough to gain you entrance into the "club".
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Postby Neesika » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:25 am

Flameswroth wrote:Well I think the gentlemen doth protest too much. :)

Your comment is bigoted and unhelpful.
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Postby Folk Metals » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:28 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Folk Metals wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Neesika wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:I have actually worried that I would not be able to have children because I find the act of ejaculating into a woman's vagina to be so unpleasant.
That sucks, sorry. I know of one other guy like that and it wasn't something he was very happy about. Seems like a fetish really, when that's the only way you can really get satisfaction. All in all a pretty mild one, to be honest. Just be glad you're not into other things that are much less likely to happen.


Wow! Thanks Neesika. You let me know that there is another buttrat out there. I feel a little less alone.

Hey, I already said I was one too. :(


You are a buttrat if you at least remarkably prefer anal to vaginal intercourse. High five and welcome to the club if you are one. Simply engaging in butt sex is probably not enough to gain you entrance into the "club".

I do prefer it. But I'm not as against vaginal sex as you are. o.O

Though I've done it a lot now, so I'm getting used to it.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:30 am

Glorious Freedonia wrote:You are a buttrat if you at least remarkably prefer anal to vaginal intercourse. High five and welcome to the club if you are one. Simply engaging in butt sex is probably not enough to gain you entrance into the "club".


WTF?

You spend half the thread begging for acceptance and then when someone says they're like you, you start making up rules for membership in your "club".

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Postby Folk Metals » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:32 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:You are a buttrat if you at least remarkably prefer anal to vaginal intercourse. High five and welcome to the club if you are one. Simply engaging in butt sex is probably not enough to gain you entrance into the "club".


WTF?

You spend half the thread begging for acceptance and then when someone says they're like you, you start making up rules for membership in your "club".

That's how kinky taboo cults work my friend. (lolz)

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Postby Neesika » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:33 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
WTF?

You spend half the thread begging for acceptance and then when someone says they're like you, you start making up rules for membership in your "club".

Seemed pretty clear that what GT was talking about from post one is that there seem to be few straight guys who prefer butt-only sex. As in anal over vaginal always. Most guys like a mix, but GT only likes anal. I like anal, but I'm not a 'buttrat' by GT's definition. I'm not seeing the problem here.
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:34 am

Folk Metals wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Folk Metals wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:
Neesika wrote:
Glorious Freedonia wrote:I have actually worried that I would not be able to have children because I find the act of ejaculating into a woman's vagina to be so unpleasant.
That sucks, sorry. I know of one other guy like that and it wasn't something he was very happy about. Seems like a fetish really, when that's the only way you can really get satisfaction. All in all a pretty mild one, to be honest. Just be glad you're not into other things that are much less likely to happen.


Wow! Thanks Neesika. You let me know that there is another buttrat out there. I feel a little less alone.

Hey, I already said I was one too. :(


You are a buttrat if you at least remarkably prefer anal to vaginal intercourse. High five and welcome to the club if you are one. Simply engaging in butt sex is probably not enough to gain you entrance into the "club".

I do prefer it. But I'm not as against vaginal sex as you are. o.O

Though I've done it a lot now, so I'm getting used to it.


Dear Fellow Buttrat,

Welcome to the club. I too am working on being able to endure the vaginal sex because I am 32 and it is time to at least think about procreating. I figure that if I am able to ejaculate into a vagina I should be able to avoid the expense of in vitro fertilization. Plus there is something wierd about having to ejaculte into a dixie cup at the doctor's office. Do they really make you do that or is that just the way it is depicted on TV?

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