Anal Kings or Lowly Buttrats?

[Glorious Freedonia]

How can they know if they never tried?

How do you know you're not gay if you've never tried?

Ummm...probably because you have no desire to try. That is like saying, "How do you know that you aren't a murderer if you never murdered?".

[Vault 10]

Hasn't he mentioned pegging as well? That is taking it in the ass, and definitely a gay act.

Direct prostate stimulation is only possible through anal penetration. Some people like direct prostate stimulation. There is nothing 'gay' or 'straight' about it.

It's what occurs in gay sex. So, there is everything gay about liking direct prostate stimulation.

Anyhow, though... Is there some fundamental anatomical difference between a male ass and a female ass?

Yes. One is on a man and one is on a woman.

What if you cover the rest of the body in both cases in heavy tarpaulin, or place it behind a wall with a hole?

Will there be any difference in the orgasm intensity? No, there won't.
It's just the homophobic psychological barrier.

[Glorious Freedonia]

Can women get anal orgasms...?

Why do you think women love butt sex? It makes them come like Krakatoa. Well not really but yes they do.

[Grave_n_idle]

It's what occurs in gay sex.

It occurs in some forms of 'straight' sex, too.

So, there is everything gay about liking direct prostate stimulation.

Not even vaguely.

What if you cover the rest of the body in both cases in heavy tarpaulin, or place it behind a wall with a hole?

Why would you be having sex with someone cavered in a tarpaulin?

Have you had sex with your mother? No? So you're not straight, then?

No - because it turns out that the person you have sex with can be important.

Will there be any difference in the orgasm intensity? No, there won't.
It's just the homophobic psychological barrier.

If you don't know what you're talking about, there's no actual pressure for you to keep saying stupid things.

[Sidebody]

How can they know if they never tried?

How do you know you're not gay if you've never tried?

Ummm...probably because you have no desire to try. That is like saying, "How do you know that you aren't a murderer if you never murdered?".

That's my point.

[Kalnisov]

How can they know if they never tried?

How do you know you're not gay if you've never tried?

Ummm...probably because you have no desire to try. That is like saying, "How do you know that you aren't a murderer if you never murdered?".

Do you actually lose an erection when hittin' vagina? Or do you just get less pleasure? You have to remember, you aren't the only one having sex and not many women (as far as I know) like anal sex.


I know I don't like murdering, that's for sure..... Oh damn, I said too much.

EDIT: Also, I can't really see anyone looking down on me for liking buttsex. Seriously, if they do, they are just looking for an excuse to place themselves higher than you.

[Flameswroth]

Can women get anal orgasms...?

Why do you think women love butt sex? It makes them come like Krakatoa. Well not really but yes they do.

I think it's whether or not women actually like buttsex that is the question, you treat it as a given. If the women on here are to be believed , both in being women and in liking the act, then all you can say for certain is that SOME women like it, and SOME women can be brought to orgasm with it.

It's a small distinction, but certainly not a trivial one.

[Glorious Freedonia]

How can they know if they never tried?

How do you know you're not gay if you've never tried?

Ummm...probably because you have no desire to try. That is like saying, "How do you know that you aren't a murderer if you never murdered?".

Do you actually lose an erection when hittin' vagina? Or do you just get less pleasure? You have to remember, you aren't the only one having sex and not many women (as far as I know) like anal sex.


I know I don't like murdering, that's for sure..... Oh damn, I said too much.

EDIT: Also, I can't really see anyone looking down on me for liking buttsex. Seriously, if they do, they are just looking for an excuse to place themselves higher than you.

My erection is not guaranteed. For best results during vaginal I will need to pretend it is a butt.

[Glorious Freedonia]

Can women get anal orgasms...?

Why do you think women love butt sex? It makes them come like Krakatoa. Well not really but yes they do.

I think it's whether or not women actually like buttsex that is the question, you treat it as a given. If the women on here are to be believed , both in being women and in liking the act, then all you can say for certain is that SOME women like it, and SOME women can be brought to orgasm with it.

It's a small distinction, but certainly not a trivial one.

Yes some women and some men like buttsex and some do not.

[CIB EMPIRE]

How can they know if they never tried?

How do you know you're not gay if you've never tried?

Ummm...probably because you have no desire to try. That is like saying, "How do you know that you aren't a murderer if you never murdered?".

Do you actually lose an erection when hittin' vagina? Or do you just get less pleasure? You have to remember, you aren't the only one having sex and not many women (as far as I know) like anal sex.


I know I don't like murdering, that's for sure..... Oh damn, I said too much.

EDIT: Also, I can't really see anyone looking down on me for liking buttsex. Seriously, if they do, they are just looking for an excuse to place themselves higher than you.

My erection is not guaranteed. For best results during vaginal I will need to pretend it is a butt.

wow, i dont know about you

[Tubbsalot]

What the fuck, how did this thread get to five pages.

Honestly I suspect that the reason there are no "anal kings" (aside from that being a really creepy name) is because desiring anal sex is pretty ordinary among guys. You don't stand out. You're not at all unusual. It is kind of weird that you aren't interested in regular sex at all, but who cares?

There are "anal queens" because women, being the receivers, and not getting guaranteed pleasure out of it, are naturally more picky about having anal sex. So they get a nice title to indicate that they do it. Because it's actually rare.

(And, of course, the standard audience for porn doesn't really want to know if there are anal kings around, because in general they're not gay. But that's only part of it.)

[Robarya]

This thread is a spin off from the "Does porn degrade anybody?" thread.

My sexual orientation is that I am a straight male who only really likes anal sex. Ever since I was a prebuscent it was all I really wanted to do sexually. Growing up I knew I was different. I also never felt that my sexual orientation was respected in society.

There will never be an article in Maxim or Ladies Home Journal about guys like me. We are tabboo.

It was not until I met girls who were also oriented exclusively south of their vaginas that I started to feel like I was a real person and not some kind of freak.

It seems that even the homosexual man is more accepted today than guys like me. There are no Biblical prohibitions against my kind of sex. Yet, we are looked down upon. I do not think I will ever see the day of a straight anal sexual orientation pride parade in any city.

Even in porn, we are not celeberated at all. Female anal sex enthusiasts are respectfully referred to as "Anal Queens". Yet, there are no "Anal Kings". We are the lowly "buttrats". We are freaks.

I hope that I am not the only Buttratt on NSG. C'mon gentleman, cast aside your shame and disgrace. Step up proudly and acknowledge that you have human worth and that our sexual orientation is a good and noble one. Sure, we may never see an article in Ladies Home Journal about anal intimacy, but maybe we can at least have a refuge here.

Ladies of the anal persuasion, you are the flower and we are your bees. Our symbiosis is beautiful and should be celeberated.

Maybe instead of referring to ourselves as nasty buttrats, maybe we should refer to ourselves as anal bees. Our female equivalents, "anal flowers". Our sweet lovemaking, "anal honey"?

So let today be the humble beginning of the movement for social equality for the buttfuckers. Buttfuckers of the world, unite. All that we have to lose is our shame!

Actually, there are biblical condemnations against it. Sorry. Not preaching, you just said that it wasn't condemned in the Bible. It is.

Is it in the New Testament or the Old? I am not an expert on the New Testament. Are you sure that this is not a condemnation of man on man anal?

Sodomy is considered a sin, whether it is between a female and male or a male and male. Sodomy also includes oral sex, for the record.

Personally, I'm very turned on by (heterosexual) anal, and I have not noticed this oppression that you speak of. Some friends of mine think that it is disgusting, but I don't care or think any less of them because of that.

[Robarya]

Myself, I could never really get into that sort of thing. I mean, if you prefer that even to the point of excluding all else, you might as well be doing a dude. There's just too many other fun parts of females to play with to focus on that piece we have in common. But that's just my opinion.

You know, with that reasoning one can might aswell say that "if you like getting your **** sucked, you can might aswell let a dude do it". Both males and females have mouths after all.

[Grave_n_idle]

Myself, I could never really get into that sort of thing. I mean, if you prefer that even to the point of excluding all else, you might as well be doing a dude. There's just too many other fun parts of females to play with to focus on that piece we have in common. But that's just my opinion.

You know, with that reasoning one can might aswell say that "if you like getting your **** sucked, you can might aswell let a dude do it". Both males and females have mouths after all.

And again, it hinges on the idea that there's no preference involved in sex. Like - if you like blowjobs, you don't care WHO does it.

By the same logic, those who make those 'you might as well be' arguments might like screwing sheep. After all, sheep have vaginas, right? So what's the difference?

[Pevisopolis]

OK dude, I've always seen buttsex as weird, but I've never seen your type as weird. I never even thought you adhered to a "Type". I just considered some people to like the ass.

[Vault 10]

Myself, I could never really get into that sort of thing. I mean, if you prefer that even to the point of excluding all else, you might as well be doing a dude. There's just too many other fun parts of females to play with to focus on that piece we have in common. But that's just my opinion.

You know, with that reasoning one can might aswell say that "if you like getting your **** sucked, you can might aswell let a dude do it". Both males and females have mouths after all.

I consider myself straight, but I wouldn't mind having my cock cleaned by a male.


BTW, there was a thread sometime ago that oral sex is actually a biological imperative, because females can subconsciously determine male's likelihood of producing children with them by components found in their fluids. And there surely is a reason their lips look so much like the other lips.

[Grave_n_idle]

Myself, I could never really get into that sort of thing. I mean, if you prefer that even to the point of excluding all else, you might as well be doing a dude. There's just too many other fun parts of females to play with to focus on that piece we have in common. But that's just my opinion.

You know, with that reasoning one can might aswell say that "if you like getting your **** sucked, you can might aswell let a dude do it". Both males and females have mouths after all.

I consider myself straight, but I wouldn't mind having my cock cleaned by a male.

Yeah - you're pretty obviously trolling, now - someone getting something in their ass (boy or girl) means you're 'gay', but having your dick sucked by a dude still qualifies as 'straight'.

Troll.

[Folk Metals]

Agreed with "Grave_n_idle".

He's either a troll, or a moron.

[Robarya]

You can, strictly speaking, perform a homosexual act w/o being a homosexual, since homosexuality is simply an attraction towards the same gender. Personally, I don't mind seeing other males naked in the locker room, etc., but I would consider a homosexual act repulsive.

[Flameswroth]

Myself, I could never really get into that sort of thing. I mean, if you prefer that even to the point of excluding all else, you might as well be doing a dude. There's just too many other fun parts of females to play with to focus on that piece we have in common. But that's just my opinion.

You know, with that reasoning one can might aswell say that "if you like getting your **** sucked, you can might aswell let a dude do it". Both males and females have mouths after all.

The key phrase was "excluding all else". The OP made it clear that not only does he enjoy the anal sex, he likes it best of anything else. It could be surmised then that he would be perfectly happy having ONLY anal sex, which in turn does not mandate that the receiving partner be a woman.

The same could be said if someone ONLY liked blowjobs, this is true. And if someone came on here saying, "I hate sex, I just like being blown" then I would probably make a similar assertion, with the one caveat being that at least you're looking at a woman's face as she does that, and you could have a preference as to who you like to watch as they perform fellatio on you.

As part of a larger regime of sexual experience, including convention vaginal intercourse, statements such as "you like anal/blowjob? why don't you just make love to men" are, admittedly, ridiculous. But when excluding gender specific sexual interaction, one can indeed question the necessity of a specific gender in the act.

[Sidebody]

As part of a larger regime of sexual experience, including convention vaginal intercourse, statements such as "you like anal/blowjob? why don't you just make love to men" are, admittedly, ridiculous. But when excluding gender specific sexual interaction, one can indeed question the necessity of a specific gender in the act.

You never look at a sexual partner? I'm very attracted to the female form but not so much the male

[Robarya]

Myself, I could never really get into that sort of thing. I mean, if you prefer that even to the point of excluding all else, you might as well be doing a dude. There's just too many other fun parts of females to play with to focus on that piece we have in common. But that's just my opinion.

You know, with that reasoning one can might aswell say that "if you like getting your **** sucked, you can might aswell let a dude do it". Both males and females have mouths after all.

The key phrase was "excluding all else". The OP made it clear that not only does he enjoy the anal sex, he likes it best of anything else. It could be surmised then that he would be perfectly happy having ONLY anal sex, which in turn does not mandate that the receiving partner be a woman.

The same could be said if someone ONLY liked blowjobs, this is true. And if someone came on here saying, "I hate sex, I just like being blown" then I would probably make a similar assertion, with the one caveat being that at least you're looking at a woman's face as she does that, and you could have a preference as to who you like to watch as they perform fellatio on you.

In the same fashion, you look at a woman's butt when you perform anal. I personally lean to think that the fetish towards anal sex is linked to the attraction to the female ass. Either way, as a straight male with a preference towards anal or oral sex, having these forms of sex but with a male instead is simply not actual.

[Flameswroth]

Myself, I could never really get into that sort of thing. I mean, if you prefer that even to the point of excluding all else, you might as well be doing a dude. There's just too many other fun parts of females to play with to focus on that piece we have in common. But that's just my opinion.

You know, with that reasoning one can might aswell say that "if you like getting your **** sucked, you can might aswell let a dude do it". Both males and females have mouths after all.

The key phrase was "excluding all else". The OP made it clear that not only does he enjoy the anal sex, he likes it best of anything else. It could be surmised then that he would be perfectly happy having ONLY anal sex, which in turn does not mandate that the receiving partner be a woman.

The same could be said if someone ONLY liked blowjobs, this is true. And if someone came on here saying, "I hate sex, I just like being blown" then I would probably make a similar assertion, with the one caveat being that at least you're looking at a woman's face as she does that, and you could have a preference as to who you like to watch as they perform fellatio on you.

In the same fashion, you look at a woman's butt when you perform anal. I personally lean to think that the fetish towards anal sex is linked to the attraction to the female ass. Either way, as a straight male with a preference towards anal or oral sex, having these forms of sex but with a male instead is simply not actual.

Well, I suppose I will concede on that notion. In fact, in a rather embarrassing fashion, I seem to have forgotten that 'anal sex' need not mean 'doggy-style anal sex'. In my mind (dirty a place as it is) I figured they just liked the anal sex, and their view only consisted of the back of a woman's head/her back. But that's not the only position they may be focused on, and could be doing other things in direct relation to the feminine body in another position, which in turn mandates that the person be female.

Fair enough, but I still don't see 'pure anal straight guys' as being any sort of socially distinguishable group that they would be highlighted on TV, as is asserted they should be in the OP.

[Domminus]

<snip OP>

I'm seeing your avatar in a whole new light now.

[Folk Metals]

You can, strictly speaking, perform a homosexual act w/o being a homosexual, since homosexuality is simply an attraction towards the same gender. Personally, I don't mind seeing other males naked in the locker room, etc., but I would consider a homosexual act repulsive.

That is referred to as bisexual then.

I was never able to change in the locker room because it plainly disgusted me. I can't even stand to watch two men kiss.

So no. If you do a homosexual act, you yourself are some what homosexual. No matter how much you try to deny and play it off.

Though it's not a bad thing to be. So you playing it off is kind of a slap in the face of gays everywhere. Ironic, me thinks.