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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:44 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:I refuse to believe you drink as much water per day as a friggin' donkey.

I have three gallon jugs I bring to work, 14 hours later they are empty.

I make several trips to the restroom, whereupon I am forced to endure the humiliation of the communal toilet, and other than that I am fine.

You can refuse to believe if you wish, but that is up to you.


In the Army we were issued twenty gallons a day per man when we were in Iraq.

A bit less then in Afganistan.

For prolonged patrols we were expected to store even more water.

Trust me fourteen gallons is completely feasable for a single person to consume within a day.
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Postby YellowApple » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:46 pm

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Great Nepal wrote:You sure? That would be about 14 litres which is two litres more than amount healthy kidney can excrete (ignoring sleeping time, stress etc).

I'm in a quite warm environment all day, I sweat like a mofo at work.


If you're in a warm environment where you're losing water quickly as sweat, then it would be understandable to drink that much water; I know that if I'm spending a whole day of hard physical work and/or exercise (which was pretty common during my high school summers), I can easily go through a gallon every 2-3 hours. However, for people who don't live in that kind of an environment, 1 gallon should be more than enough water in a day.

Soda is a different story, particularly if it's caffeinated; caffeine is a diuretic, and thus will increase one's urination frequency, subsequently causing dehydration. Offsetting caffeine intake with water can help prevent adverse effects of dehydration. The sugars and other electrolytes in such drinks are not helpful, either.

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Postby Central Slavia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:54 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I have three gallon jugs I bring to work, 14 hours later they are empty.

I make several trips to the restroom, whereupon I am forced to endure the humiliation of the communal toilet, and other than that I am fine.

You can refuse to believe if you wish, but that is up to you.


In the Army we were issued twenty gallons a day per man when we were in Iraq.

A bit less then in Afganistan.

For prolonged patrols we were expected to store even more water.

Trust me fourteen gallons is completely feasable for a single person to consume within a day.

. . .
You were issued 75 litres of water per day, and went through, per day, 52 litres?
Wait what.
I'm seriously not finding the possibility of someone drinking, per day, as much water as an adult woman weighs believable. Unless you mean "go through" as in also use for other purposes.
I haven't been on patrols anywhere, however I have been digging potato during summer, and doing other such labour, I am a rather heavy person, sweat a lot, yet I don't think I ever drank more than five-six litres per day, even in such conditions.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:05 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
In the Army we were issued twenty gallons a day per man when we were in Iraq.

A bit less then in Afganistan.

For prolonged patrols we were expected to store even more water.

Trust me fourteen gallons is completely feasable for a single person to consume within a day.

. . .
You were issued 75 litres of water per day, and went through, per day, 52 litres?
Wait what.
I'm seriously not finding the possibility of someone drinking, per day, as much water as an adult woman weighs believable. Unless you mean "go through" as in also use for other purposes.
I haven't been on patrols anywhere, however I have been digging potato during summer, and doing other such labour, I am a rather heavy person, sweat a lot, yet I don't think I ever drank more than five-six litres per day, even in such conditions.



Physical activities in certain conditions require more amounts of liquid water to maintain peak condition in the elements.

Do you know what the average temperature is in August in Iraq? It be well over a hundred in ferinheit.

So image even the simple tasks of walking a few miles in such conditions, On bad roads or perhaps no roads, a dirt trail, a bed of gravel or ground stone.

Now imagine the extertion that would come actually engaging in extended combat in such conditions.

But you have a point, No doubt some of the issued water could be used for other taskes rather then consumption, but what i said was true every soldier was issued twenty gallons rationed to him per day. What that could be used for other then consumption though? Well i did note that some would clean equipment when given the chance, no doubt using water from personal stores.

Another point would be that you need to combat heat stroke and other weather related illness while operating in such area's.

So again believe me it is possible to use that much water in a single day.
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Postby Central Slavia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:08 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Central Slavia wrote: . . .
You were issued 75 litres of water per day, and went through, per day, 52 litres?
Wait what.
I'm seriously not finding the possibility of someone drinking, per day, as much water as an adult woman weighs believable. Unless you mean "go through" as in also use for other purposes.
I haven't been on patrols anywhere, however I have been digging potato during summer, and doing other such labour, I am a rather heavy person, sweat a lot, yet I don't think I ever drank more than five-six litres per day, even in such conditions.



Physical activities in certain conditions require more amounts of liquid water to maintain peak condition in the elements.

Do you know what the average temperature is in August in Iraq? It be well over a hundred in ferinheit.

So image even the simple tasks of walking a few miles in such conditions, On bad roads or perhaps no roads, a dirt trail, a bed of gravel or ground stone.

Now imagine the extertion that would come actually engaging in extended combat in such conditions.

But you have a point, No doubt some of the issued water could be used for other taskes rather then consumption, but what i said was true every soldier was issued twenty gallons rationed to him per day. What that could be used for other then consumption though? Well i did note that some would clean equipment when given the chance, no doubt using water from personal stores.

Another point would be that you need to combat heat stroke and other weather related illness while operating in such area's.

So again believe me it is possible to use that much water in a single day.


Use,yes - there's no dispute I have there. Not drink, though. Even if you did it to replace sweating losses, which somehow ran that high, you would have insane trouble not passing out from lack of salts, and possibly other effects.
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You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.

Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions

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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:16 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:

Physical activities in certain conditions require more amounts of liquid water to maintain peak condition in the elements.

Do you know what the average temperature is in August in Iraq? It be well over a hundred in ferinheit.

So image even the simple tasks of walking a few miles in such conditions, On bad roads or perhaps no roads, a dirt trail, a bed of gravel or ground stone.

Now imagine the extertion that would come actually engaging in extended combat in such conditions.

But you have a point, No doubt some of the issued water could be used for other taskes rather then consumption, but what i said was true every soldier was issued twenty gallons rationed to him per day. What that could be used for other then consumption though? Well i did note that some would clean equipment when given the chance, no doubt using water from personal stores.

Another point would be that you need to combat heat stroke and other weather related illness while operating in such area's.

So again believe me it is possible to use that much water in a single day.


Use,yes - there's no dispute I have there. Not drink, though. Even if you did it to replace sweating losses, which somehow ran that high, you would have insane trouble not passing out from lack of salts, and possibly other effects.


Indeed and most modern militaries have counter a to the loss of vital bodily fluids that escape during intense heat.

It's why they store so much excess protein, salts and other needed components for the body to operate peak effiency during even the worst conditions.

Honestly the most i probably ever drank while out on a patrol would probably 62 liters and that was over a three day period; It was an extended clearing operation along highway 4; Occasionally being issued twenty gallons of water will come in handy when you do nearly drink it all over a period.

Hence why i don't fault the issuing of such resources to the forces there, it allows them to clean and maintain equipment and keep themselves alive. Heck i have seen some even use it to do laundry so to speak, if you can call washing your clothes in a basin laundry anyway.
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Postby Central Slavia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:32 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:
Use,yes - there's no dispute I have there. Not drink, though. Even if you did it to replace sweating losses, which somehow ran that high, you would have insane trouble not passing out from lack of salts, and possibly other effects.


Indeed and most modern militaries have counter a to the loss of vital bodily fluids that escape during intense heat.

It's why they store so much excess protein, salts and other needed components for the body to operate peak effiency during even the worst conditions.

Honestly the most i probably ever drank while out on a patrol would probably 62 liters and that was over a three day period; It was an extended clearing operation along highway 4; Occasionally being issued twenty gallons of water will come in handy when you do nearly drink it all over a period.

Hence why i don't fault the issuing of such resources to the forces there, it allows them to clean and maintain equipment and keep themselves alive. Heck i have seen some even use it to do laundry so to speak, if you can call washing your clothes in a basin laundry anyway.


Okay. 62 liters over three days in intense heat, that *is* believable - makes for 20l per day, which is a lot, but just about doable in very very hot conditions, on occassion.
See, it's this sort of detail that makes the difference between something sounding valid, and sounding like bullshit.
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You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.

Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:34 pm

I thought you meant Cocaine. :meh: But I drink Coke occasionally and it does me no harm.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:35 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
Indeed and most modern militaries have counter a to the loss of vital bodily fluids that escape during intense heat.

It's why they store so much excess protein, salts and other needed components for the body to operate peak effiency during even the worst conditions.

Honestly the most i probably ever drank while out on a patrol would probably 62 liters and that was over a three day period; It was an extended clearing operation along highway 4; Occasionally being issued twenty gallons of water will come in handy when you do nearly drink it all over a period.

Hence why i don't fault the issuing of such resources to the forces there, it allows them to clean and maintain equipment and keep themselves alive. Heck i have seen some even use it to do laundry so to speak, if you can call washing your clothes in a basin laundry anyway.


Okay. 62 liters over three days in intense heat, that *is* believable - makes for 20l per day, which is a lot, but just about doable in very very hot conditions, on occassion.
See, it's this sort of detail that makes the difference between something sounding valid, and sounding like bullshit.


I always tell people they could expreince what i have fairly easily, It's just signing a paper and months of training and then deployment, or leave and then deployment.

You can see if the Desert and Plains are as hot and dry as i recollect.
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Postby Great Holy Prussia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:36 pm

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IT ISN'T COCA COLA'S FAULT FOR THE PERSON'S DEATH, IT WAS THE PERSON FOR DRINKING TOO MUCH COKE YOU FUCKING DUMBASSES THAT THINK THAT SHE DIED BECAUSE OF COKE. SHE DID, BECAUSE SHE DRANK TOO MUCH!!!
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:38 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I'm in a quite warm environment all day, I sweat like a mofo at work.

I refuse to believe you drink as much water per day as a friggin' donkey.


I drink 3 Mason Canning jars of water before sleeping usually (Explains why i wake up at midnight every night...)
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:39 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I thought you meant Cocaine. :meh: But I drink Coke occasionally and it does me no harm.

Do you drink ten litres of coke per day?
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:39 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:I refuse to believe you drink as much water per day as a friggin' donkey.


I drink 3 Mason Canning jars of water before sleeping usually (Explains why i wake up at midnight every night...)


:lol2:

At least you have the bladder control to awake.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:40 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I thought you meant Cocaine. :meh: But I drink Coke occasionally and it does me no harm.

Do you drink ten litres of coke per day?

No.
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:41 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Do you drink ten litres of coke per day?

No.

So, you should be safe as long as coke isn't mixed with coke...
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Postby YellowApple » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:42 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:No.

So, you should be safe as long as coke isn't mixed with coke...


Yo dawg, I heard you like Coke...

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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:43 pm

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Great Nepal wrote:So, you should be safe as long as coke isn't mixed with coke...


Yo dawg, I heard you like Coke...

I prefer coke when coke is not mixed with coke... impurity.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:44 pm

Great Holy Prussia wrote:IT ISN'T COCA COLA'S FAULT FOR THE PERSON'S DEATH, IT WAS THE PERSON FOR DRINKING TOO MUCH COKE YOU FUCKING DUMBASSES THAT THINK THAT SHE DIED BECAUSE OF COKE. SHE DID, BECAUSE SHE DRANK TOO MUCH!!!

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:44 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
I drink 3 Mason Canning jars of water before sleeping usually (Explains why i wake up at midnight every night...)


:lol2:

At least you have the bladder control to awake.


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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:44 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
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Yo dawg, I heard you like Coke...

I prefer coke when coke is not mixed with coke... impurity.


I prefered my Coke uncut.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:45 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I prefer coke when coke is not mixed with coke... impurity.


I prefered my Coke uncut.

I prefer mine African style, with gunpowder.
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The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
I prefered my Coke uncut.

I prefer mine African style, with gunpowder.


Sounds stupid.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:48 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I prefer mine African style, with gunpowder.


Sounds stupid.

Actually many Africans who use cocaine actually do mix it with gunpowder.
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Postby Central Slavia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:48 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:
Okay. 62 liters over three days in intense heat, that *is* believable - makes for 20l per day, which is a lot, but just about doable in very very hot conditions, on occassion.
See, it's this sort of detail that makes the difference between something sounding valid, and sounding like bullshit.


I always tell people they could expreince what i have fairly easily, It's just signing a paper and months of training and then deployment, or leave and then deployment.

You can see if the Desert and Plains are as hot and dry as i recollect.


Not an US citizen here, sorry XD
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:52 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
Sounds stupid.

Actually many Africans who use cocaine actually do mix it with gunpowder.


Brown Brown isn't exactly popular anywhere else given it's tendency to cause death.

And only in West Africa did it ever acheive somewhat usage, and even then only to expendable child soldiers and even then that is unconfirmed, it's an assumption.

.-. So i don't view it as popular.
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