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Postby Xathranaar » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:37 pm

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Serrland wrote:We're a few centuries overdue gor another Gregory, perhaps. Or the first Maximos (a lovely way to honor Maximos IV, Patriarch of Antioch, our finest Patriarch in the past century). But that is just wishful thinking


I doubt "Maximos" would work; latinising the name, we'd have Pontifex Maximus Maximus....

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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:43 pm

I'm not religious or anything, but I find the whole history and attitude surrounding the Catholic Church to very interesting, so I'll be sure to follow this.
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Postby Thrinia » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:13 am

I hope for a Pope Hilarius II. :lol:
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Postby Angleter » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:18 am

From the perspective of a Catholic Aston Villa fan, what if the new Pope were to, like JPI, choose a new name out of two traditional Papal names? Say, what about Pope John Gregory I?
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Postby Nazis in Space » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:59 am

Angleter wrote:From the perspective of a Catholic Aston Villa fan, what if the new Pope were to, like JPI, choose a new name out of two traditional Papal names? Say, what about Pope John Gregory I?
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Postby Corporations and Companies » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:54 am

Some big changes in the Papal Race.

Scola, Turkson and Bertone are still tightly bunched in the top three spots but a big move has been made by Cardinal Odilo Scherer (Brazil) moving from a position outside of the top 10 into fourth. Also moving into the top 10 were for the first time are Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle (Philippines) in ninth and Cardinal Timothy Dolan (United States) tenth.

Ouellet, Ravasi and Bagnasco all seem to be slowly slipping back and Erdo is losing strength as well.

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Postby Thesan » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:31 am

Corporations and Companies wrote:Some big changes in the Papal Race.

Scola, Turkson and Bertone are still tightly bunched in the top three spots but a big move has been made by Cardinal Odilo Scherer (Brazil) moving from a position outside of the top 10 into fourth. Also moving into the top 10 were for the first time are Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle (Philippines) in ninth and Cardinal Timothy Dolan (United States) tenth.

Ouellet, Ravasi and Bagnasco all seem to be slowly slipping back and Erdo is losing strength as well.

Bertone or Scola as next pope??? :blink:
Seriously???

Ok... now I know where the Catholic Church is going...

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I think it would be the scariest thing possible...
Scola is an ultra-right winger that have never appreciated public justice for the pedophile priests, has always said that the gays are ill and that need to be "educated" (interesting fact: is currently the archbishop of Milan, one of the most tolerant cities of Italy) and notoriously close to CL (the catholic fundamentalists).

Bertone is an Eminence Grise that loves play mastermind with poor people's lives and is the real "king" of the Vatican Bank (the IOR) so his hands stinks of corruption, Mafia, Camorra and 'Ndrangheta

I really hope for Tettamanzi but he's too old... :(
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Postby Thrinia » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:25 am

Personally i will always be catholic, no matter how unworthy his successor may prove to be, if that will be the case.
But that just speaks for me.......
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Postby Oneracon » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:16 am

Thesan wrote:has always said that the gays are ill and that need to be "educated" (interesting fact: is currently the archbishop of Milan, one of the most tolerant cities of Italy)


Slightly off topic, but the Vatican has a habit of putting hardliners in the more tolerant cities. Look at the Archbishop of San Fransisco...
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Postby Cill Airne » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:57 am

The Vatican officially announced the Conclave will begin on Tuesday the 12th of March.

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Postby Thesan » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:01 am

Oneracon wrote:
Thesan wrote:has always said that the gays are ill and that need to be "educated" (interesting fact: is currently the archbishop of Milan, one of the most tolerant cities of Italy)


Slightly off topic, but the Vatican has a habit of putting hardliners in the more tolerant cities. Look at the Archbishop of San Fransisco...

Really? Well here wasn't so common... before Scola there was Dionigi Tettamanzi (it is considered even a left-winger, the Northern League have always hated him) and even before there was Carlo Maria Martini (the only Cardinal that have publicly opened to gay unions in the catholic church, the condom and abortion, against futile medical care, an ultra progressist jesuit that would have revolutioned the church) the only obstacle to his election intead of ratzinger was his parkinson I think (and the fact that he was a progressist while John Paul II was a conservative)
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Postby Angleter » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:32 am

Cill Airne wrote:The Vatican officially announced the Conclave will begin on Tuesday the 12th of March.


Ooh. This will be an interesting one, since there's no clear favourite (as Ratzinger was in 2005), and the Cardinals are somewhat divided on their priorities. It'd be silly for me to make a prediction, but I'd like to see either Sandri or Ravasi elected, closely followed by Ouellet. Ranjith and Monsengwo-Pasinya are my favourite outsiders. Bertone is by far my least favourite choice.
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Postby Thrinia » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:14 am

I just hope its not just another Pius XII.
I mean when i attack Poland as the HRE in medieval; 2 total war, the pope intervenes.....
""Stop attacking your fellow catholics"
The popes in that game are not perfect, but better than people like Pius XII or Alexander VI.
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Postby Nazis in Space » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:52 am

Thrinia wrote:I just hope its not just another Pius XII.
I mean when i attack Poland as the HRE in medieval; 2 total war, the pope intervenes.....
""Stop attacking your fellow catholics"
The popes in that game are not perfect, but better than people like Pius XII or Alexander VI.
You know, with Alexander had succeeded in his plan to make the papacy a hereditary position*, we wouldn't have the trouble with the constant pope-elections.

* Historicity may be debatable. I base this on a documentary I watched ages ago, and like the idea too much to bother verifying it via proper sources

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Postby Thrinia » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:29 am

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Thrinia wrote:I just hope its not just another Pius XII.
I mean when i attack Poland as the HRE in medieval; 2 total war, the pope intervenes.....
""Stop attacking your fellow catholics"
The popes in that game are not perfect, but better than people like Pius XII or Alexander VI.
You know, with Alexander had succeeded in his plan to make the papacy a hereditary position*, we wouldn't have the trouble with the constant pope-elections.

* Historicity may be debatable. I base this on a documentary I watched ages ago, and like the idea too much to bother verifying it via proper sources

What do you mean, i have no idea what you are talking about.
Sorry about that. :)
Did not go to collage and all....
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Postby Czechanada » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:09 am

I should be elected pope, just so I can have fun with the crowd and recite this scene during my first day.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:43 am

Thrinia wrote:I hope for a Pope Hilarius II. :lol:

LG you got a vote for pope.
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Postby Place of Interest » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:42 am

Thesan wrote:Really? Well here wasn't so common... before Scola there was Dionigi Tettamanzi (it is considered even a left-winger, the Northern League have always hated him) and even before there was Carlo Maria Martini (the only Cardinal that have publicly opened to gay unions in the catholic church, the condom and abortion, against futile medical care, an ultra progressist jesuit that would have revolutioned the church) the only obstacle to his election intead of ratzinger was his parkinson I think (and the fact that he was a progressist while John Paul II was a conservative)

I'd rather have had a repeat of Alexander VI than Cardinal Martini. His liberal beliefs would have completely destroyed the church. For a start, just look at how well that has gone for the lutheran and episcopal churches. If the church simply follows the whims of mainstream society, why should it even exist? Remember that throughout its history, members of the church have chosen to die rather than submit to things contrary to the church's teaching. We're often labelled as "intolerant" for standing by our beliefs, but that's hardly any reason for changing them.

That's not even mentioning the inevitable schism that such changes would cause. Following endless misinterpretation of Vatican II, the last thing we need is more schism. However, most importantly, suddenly adopting liberal teachings would simply destroy any authority held by the Pope or the church. Teaching things that contradict what the church has taught for centuries essentially implies that the church was wrong all this time, and can therefore be wrong about anything and everything else.
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Postby Czechanada » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:33 pm

Thrinia wrote:I hope for a Pope Hilarius II. :lol:


The funny thing being is that I just got back from a game of Crusader Kings II defending from a crusade by Pope Hilarius II.
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Postby Thrinia » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:23 am

Czechanada wrote:
Thrinia wrote:I hope for a Pope Hilarius II. :lol:


The funny thing being is that I just got back from a game of Crusader Kings II defending from a crusade by Pope Hilarius II.

That is funny.

I hope the new pope will be like Ganthet from Green lantern animated. :)
If you know what i mean. :)
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Postby Czechanada » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:12 am

Thrinia wrote:
Czechanada wrote:
The funny thing being is that I just got back from a game of Crusader Kings II defending from a crusade by Pope Hilarius II.

That is funny.

I hope the new pope will be like Ganthet from Green lantern animated. :)
If you know what i mean. :)


There's only one candidate for me:

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Postby Thrinia » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:35 am

Czechanada wrote:
Thrinia wrote:That is funny.

I hope the new pope will be like Ganthet from Green lantern animated. :)
If you know what i mean. :)


There's only one candidate for me:

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:37 pm

Has anyone else noticed that the those who are contenders for the papacy are all batshit crazy conservatives ?

I think the sith lord retired early to ensure his stacked college of cardinals remained stacked.
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Postby Divair » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:38 pm

greed and death wrote:Has anyone else noticed that the those who are contenders for the papacy are all batshit crazy conservatives ?

I think the sith lord retired early to ensure his stacked college of cardinals remained stacked.

The next pope will be a conservative?


No. Fucking. Way.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:40 pm

greed and death wrote:Has anyone else noticed that the those who are contenders for the papacy are all batshit crazy conservatives ?

I think the sith lord retired early to ensure his stacked college of cardinals remained stacked.


why ? he gets to pick the new ones.
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