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Postby Cill Airne » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:31 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Personally, Colbert or Bono would be my suggestions.

Well, technically any Catholic man can be Pope, right? :p

Technically no. They must be of the age of reason, catholic, male, not in a state of heresy and cannot be suspected of buying and/or selling of indulgences. If these are met, than yes they are a candidate for the Papacy.
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Postby Neo Mitanni » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:23 pm

Personally, this Catholic hopes for a theologically and liturgically traditionalist, non-European cardinal (African or South American would be my choices). I also hope he takes the name Urban IX.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:40 am

Neo Mitanni wrote:Personally, this Catholic hopes for a theologically and liturgically traditionalist, non-European cardinal (African or South American would be my choices). I also hope he takes the name Urban IX.


Urban Nine, that sounds like a rapper :D
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:09 am

Neo Mitanni wrote:Personally, this Catholic hopes for a theologically and liturgically traditionalist, non-European cardinal (African or South American would be my choices). I also hope he takes the name Urban IX.

33/1 odds on urban. place your bets
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:10 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Neo Mitanni wrote:Personally, this Catholic hopes for a theologically and liturgically traditionalist, non-European cardinal (African or South American would be my choices). I also hope he takes the name Urban IX.

33/1 odds on urban. place your bets


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Postby Fedeledland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:21 am

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Ethel mermania wrote:33/1 odds on urban. place your bets


Pious. Return of a classic.


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Postby Irredento » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:31 am

I'm a huge fan of Cardinal Tagle personally, although he is probably far too young for me to be getting my hopes up.

I believe he is sufficiently traditional to appease the most devout of Catholics but at the same time has an openness about him along with a disarming smile that could make him a good face for the secular world while at the same time bring new people into the church.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:35 am

Fedeledland wrote:Sixtus. He'd be Sixtus VI and who doesn't want to be callrd Sixth the Sixth?


Tiber Septim. :lol:

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:48 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:Sixtus. He'd be Sixtus VI and who doesn't want to be callrd Sixth the Sixth?


Tiber Septim. :lol:

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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:49 am

Ifreann wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Tiber Septim. :lol:

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:53 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:33/1 odds on urban. place your bets


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by far the favorite at 9/2

john paul is second at 5/1.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:56 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Pious. Return of a classic.


by far the favorite at 9/2

john paul is second at 5/1.

smart money is with you sammi

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Postby Cill Airne » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:02 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
by far the favorite at 9/2

john paul is second at 5/1.

smart money is with you sammi

What's Petrus Romanus at?

Petrus Romanus isn't a name a pope would take. If the next pope were to take this name he'd be Peter II. "Petrus Romanus" literally means "Peter the Roman" - Romanus is a title. And the name Peter is not favourable, many do not think a pope would take the name Peter. I'd be surprised if Benedict XVI's successor took on this name.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:03 am

Cill Airne wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:What's Petrus Romanus at?

Petrus Romanus isn't a name a pope would take. If the next pope were to take this name he'd be Peter II. "Petrus Romanus" literally means "Peter the Roman" - Romanus is a title.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:07 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
by far the favorite at 9/2

john paul is second at 5/1.

smart money is with you sammi

What's Petrus Romanus at?


not even the board, you would have to call them for a special.

i did make a mistake though, peter is at even money. smart money has pious to place.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:33 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:What's Petrus Romanus at?


not even the board, you would have to call them for a special.

i did make a mistake though, peter is at even money. smart money has pious to place.


The fact that Peter is the even money favourite for the next Pope's name at Paddy Power more or less discredits any Papal odds offered at Paddy Power.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:55 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
not even the board, you would have to call them for a special.

i did make a mistake though, peter is at even money. smart money has pious to place.


The fact that Peter is the even money favourite for the next Pope's name at Paddy Power more or less discredits any Papal odds offered at Paddy Power.


as with any sports book, the initial odds are the only ones they set. the odds are based on what people are betting. i dont know the math, but i would think that means a significant hunk of money is on peter, or they are trying to get folks to lay a sucker bet.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:22 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
The fact that Peter is the even money favourite for the next Pope's name at Paddy Power more or less discredits any Papal odds offered at Paddy Power.


as with any sports book, the initial odds are the only ones they set. the odds are based on what people are betting. i dont know the math, but i would think that means a significant hunk of money is on peter, or they are trying to get folks to lay a sucker bet.


True, but if that many people are betting on Peter, they deserve to lose their money; and if the 'next Pope' betting odds are driven by similarly ill-informed speculation, then those odds are no more reliable.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:37 am

In a shocking turn of events, I have been named pope.

Now to shake things up, the monks will be taught ninjutsu and sued for secret papal missions to make the world a better place.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:39 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
as with any sports book, the initial odds are the only ones they set. the odds are based on what people are betting. i dont know the math, but i would think that means a significant hunk of money is on peter, or they are trying to get folks to lay a sucker bet.


True, but if that many people are betting on Peter, they deserve to lose their money; and if the 'next Pope' betting odds are driven by similarly ill-informed speculation, then those odds are more reliable.


i believe you meant "aren't more reliable".

that said, if you had some "inside information" statisitcal trends, inner knowlege of churh process and thoughts, and so forth, it would give you a betting advantage. for example, if you knew the next popes name would be one of say 5. the payouts on those names would be greater than it should be, and well worth the bet.

so our Archiness, can you find some under valued names on the list?
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Postby Serrland » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:53 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
True, but if that many people are betting on Peter, they deserve to lose their money; and if the 'next Pope' betting odds are driven by similarly ill-informed speculation, then those odds are more reliable.


i believe you meant "aren't more reliable".

that said, if you had some "inside information" statisitcal trends, inner knowlege of churh process and thoughts, and so forth, it would give you a betting advantage. for example, if you knew the next popes name would be one of say 5. the payouts on those names would be greater than it should be, and well worth the bet.

so our Archiness, can you find some under valued names on the list?


Not Arch, but I'll remind you of an adage before you go placing bets on the frontrunners -

"He who enters the conclave as pope, leaves it as a cardinal."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:58 am

Serrland wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
i believe you meant "aren't more reliable".

that said, if you had some "inside information" statisitcal trends, inner knowlege of churh process and thoughts, and so forth, it would give you a betting advantage. for example, if you knew the next popes name would be one of say 5. the payouts on those names would be greater than it should be, and well worth the bet.

so our Archiness, can you find some under valued names on the list?


Not Arch, but I'll remind you of an adage before you go placing bets on the frontrunners -

"He who enters the conclave as pope, leaves it as a cardinal."


i am thinking pope name would be an easier bet to win.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:01 am

I wonder if they make Mel Gibson pope, you know to appeal to the younger crowd.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:02 am

greed and death wrote:I wonder if they make Mel Gibson pope, you know to appeal to the younger crowd.


You'd have to play the Lethal Weapon movies in St. Peter's Square. Even then, chances are slim.

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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:10 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
greed and death wrote:I wonder if they make Mel Gibson pope, you know to appeal to the younger crowd.


You'd have to play the Lethal Weapon movies in St. Peter's Square. Even then, chances are slim.

He has the conservativism they want in the next pope.
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