Golden Dawn in Greece

[Herrebrugh]

If it's true they use violence against foreign immigrants (or violence at all, really), they should no doubt be banned.

[Zweite Alaje]

remember what happened to Hitler/Nazi party? it is doomed to fail. outlaw them.

Last time I checked it got to power.

And guys Greece is not like the U.S.
Greece is an ethnos with a nation
U.S is simple a nation

BS, the only thing the old world nations have on us is their age. The US has its own national myth.

[DrakoBlaria]

I'll join you.

Thirded.

Either way, they have a whole 18 seats in the Hellenic Parliament and one municipality that has a leader from that Party. I don't see the imminent threat.

They rised from 6% to 13% since the last elections and the number keep increasing every day

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

I support the Greek nationalism thing and killing the Turks but the Nazism part nein

[Tmutarakhan]

Ok so hypotheticly such a party goes to power and you,for some reason,think that is threatening you.What kind of resistance by force will you do? Arm a bunch of people and start shooting

That's what Golden Dawn has been doing for years.

[The Jahistic Unified Republic]

Thirded.

Either way, they have a whole 18 seats in the Hellenic Parliament and one municipality that has a leader from that Party. I don't see the imminent threat.

Quite. They've gained some temporary popularity due to the economic crisis, but it'll be dead by the end of the decade.

I find it disturbing that they could be elected in the first place, but still. Threat they are not. If they win enough seats in the Parliament to become a legitimate opposition group, I may actually give them the time of day, otherwise, I'm mostly done here.

[Oterro]

BS, the only thing the old world nations have on us is their age. The US has its own national myth.

the only thing you have is a disproportionate number of fascist kids and people who grab at the pride of their forebears.

[The Jahistic Unified Republic]

Thirded.

Either way, they have a whole 18 seats in the Hellenic Parliament and one municipality that has a leader from that Party. I don't see the imminent threat.

They rised from 6% to 13% since the last elections and the number keep increasing every day

I can't believe I'd ever say this, but I agree with Diviar. It is temporary until proven otherwise.

[Divair]

Quite. They've gained some temporary popularity due to the economic crisis, but it'll be dead by the end of the decade.

I find it disturbing that they could be elected in the first place, but still. Threat they are not. If they win enough seats in the Parliament to become a legitimate opposition group, I may actually give them the time of day, otherwise, I'm mostly done here.

Depressions have caused political radicalism in the past. A shame, but there's not much we can do but ride it out.

[Choronzon]

Every time I see mention of the Golden Dawn party I think of a completely different, way cooler Golden Dawn.

[DrakoBlaria]

Needed to save Greece from Islamic Facism and being overwhelmed with non-Greek immigrants which will destroy their proud culture.

Greece (and all Europe countries) need to leave the EU.

Thanks for the support.Right now we are the garbage can of europe.When we fall all these immigrants will come to you.

If it's true they use violence against foreign immigrants (or violence at all, really), they should no doubt be banned.

Still,the crime caused by immigrants is even higher.They are protecting greek people in areas where muslims dont allow the GREEKS to leave their houses

Last time I checked it got to power.

And guys Greece is not like the U.S.
Greece is an ethnos with a nation
U.S is simple a nation

BS, the only thing the old world nations have on us is their age. The US has its own national myth.

National,not ethnic

[Divair]

Every time I see mention of the Golden Dawn party I think of a completely different, way cooler Golden Dawn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_O ... olden_Dawn

This?

[Freiheit Reich]

Oh don't worry, the Tea Party will fill that niche. They seem to be absorbing all the other questionable content from the Republicans. Kind of cleansing in the long run I expect.

The Tea Party isn't nationalist, they're libertardian.

Not true, many tea party folks are hypocritical conservatives. Paul Ryan is one. Many are not libertarians.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Thirded.

Either way, they have a whole 18 seats in the Hellenic Parliament and one municipality that has a leader from that Party. I don't see the imminent threat.

They rised from 6% to 13% since the last elections and the number keep increasing every day

Can you show us some opinion polls to prove this?

[DrakoBlaria]

Quite. They've gained some temporary popularity due to the economic crisis, but it'll be dead by the end of the decade.

I find it disturbing that they could be elected in the first place, but still. Threat they are not. If they win enough seats in the Parliament to become a legitimate opposition group, I may actually give them the time of day, otherwise, I'm mostly done here.

They are the 3d biggest party in Greece

[Herrebrugh]

If it's true they use violence against foreign immigrants (or violence at all, really), they should no doubt be banned.

Still,the crime caused by immigrants is even higher.They are protecting greek people in areas where muslims dont allow the GREEKS to leave their houses

Straw man.

And besides, just because one group supposedly uses violence that doesn't justify another group doing the same.

[The Jahistic Unified Republic]

I find it disturbing that they could be elected in the first place, but still. Threat they are not. If they win enough seats in the Parliament to become a legitimate opposition group, I may actually give them the time of day, otherwise, I'm mostly done here.

They are the 3d biggest party in Greece

Heard you the first time, chap.

[Divair]

I find it disturbing that they could be elected in the first place, but still. Threat they are not. If they win enough seats in the Parliament to become a legitimate opposition group, I may actually give them the time of day, otherwise, I'm mostly done here.

They are the 3d biggest party in Greece

Tied for fourth, actually. And there's a huge drop off between the 2nd and 3rd.

[Abatael]

Thirded.

Either way, they have a whole 18 seats in the Hellenic Parliament and one municipality that has a leader from that Party. I don't see the imminent threat.

Quite. They've gained some temporary popularity due to the economic crisis, but it'll be dead by the end of the decade.

Do you have a source for this?

[Yorkopolis]

Not supportive of them and not sympathetic to them either. Most of them are just a bunch of racists who have a hollow and void agenda and they use white supremacist flags.

[The Serbian Empire]

Thirded.

Either way, they have a whole 18 seats in the Hellenic Parliament and one municipality that has a leader from that Party. I don't see the imminent threat.

Quite. They've gained some temporary popularity due to the economic crisis, but it'll be dead by the end of the decade.

That is assuming that the Greek crisis ends. As long Greece is in the EU attached to the Euro; there is no end to this crisis in Greece.

[DrakoBlaria]

They rised from 6% to 13% since the last elections and the number keep increasing every day

Can you show us some opinion polls to prove this?

Here you go.http://www.real.gr/DefaultArthro.aspx?p ... 2&catID=11

And charts change from source to source but the numbers are the same.
SYRIZA and ND struggle with 20% each and GD is somewhere bewteen 10-14%

[Nationalist State of Knox]

I find it disturbing that they could be elected in the first place, but still. Threat they are not. If they win enough seats in the Parliament to become a legitimate opposition group, I may actually give them the time of day, otherwise, I'm mostly done here.

They are the 3d biggest party in Greece

They have 18 seats compared to the 125 of the "New Democracy" party. They're quite a way off ever attaining a majority.

[Divair]

Do you have a source for this?

You cannot source predictions.

[DrakoBlaria]

Still,the crime caused by immigrants is even higher.They are protecting greek people in areas where muslims dont allow the GREEKS to leave their houses

Straw man.

And besides, just because one group supposedly uses violence that doesn't justify another group doing the same.

Supposedly? You just lost here.The magority of crime in Greece is caused by immigrants,most of which is covered by the police.
Just go a walk in Athens,black people will try to sell you stolen stuff without a license.Gangs even beat up legal greek sellers and when GD protects greeks they are racist