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Is rape preventable on an individual basis?

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No
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Postby Freelanderness » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:38 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:Nothing.

Rape rates would go way down if everone kept their wits and carried a gun.

Unless the rapists carried guns too. And people aren't known for keeping their wits.
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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:43 pm

Freelanderness wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:Rape rates would go way down if everone kept their wits and carried a gun.

Unless the rapists carried guns too. And people aren't known for keeping their wits.

even if the rapists carried guns. Remember when one of them dies its murder not rape.

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Postby Freelanderness » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:45 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:Unless the rapists carried guns too. And people aren't known for keeping their wits.

even if the rapists carried guns. Remember when one of them dies its murder not rape.

Because that's so much better.
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New Manvir wrote:Well, it's obvious the Native Americans didn't really have a history. They were just loafing about, waiting for some white people to show up so the real fun could start.

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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:46 pm

Freelanderness wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:even if the rapists carried guns. Remember when one of them dies its murder not rape.

Because that's so much better.

But the women would have defended her families honour.

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Postby Freelanderness » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:50 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:Because that's so much better.

But the women would have defended her families honour.

Honour is the most important part, of course.
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New Manvir wrote:Well, it's obvious the Native Americans didn't really have a history. They were just loafing about, waiting for some white people to show up so the real fun could start.

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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:50 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Dainer wrote:If only women were always on guard with a loaded firearm at all times, in the presence of their parents, acquaintances, coworkers and SOs, not to mention being willing to shoot them, and then were able to claim legitimate defense.

How about not just women. Everone should carry a locked a locked and loaded weapon all the time.

What about children and criminals?
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Postby The Neo Werewolf order » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:51 pm

UAWC wrote:Hi, NSG.

A short while ago we had a rape thread, which was labelled as a "safe space". In that thread, I suggested that women (let's be realistic, it is almost always women who are victimized) should carry and learn how to use weapons in order to prevent rapes. I was very clear that I was not attempting to place the blame on victims, and was trying to be supportive. It was apparent that some people were still offended, however, and and some people even suggested that I was aiding rapists by promoting the carry of and training with weapons among women. I cannot with any intellectual honesty apologize for what I said, because I still sand by it. I want to emphasize that my heart goes out to the victims of abuse.

So, here is a different thread with a different purpose. I want to ask you, NSG: do you believe that rape is preventable? If so, what can women do to prevent rape? If not, why not?

Here is a video with some statistics which support the idea that women should carry and learn how to use weapons.

I really, really don't want this to turn into a flame war. Please keep it civil. I want this to be a good thread with some good, constructive discussion, and I don't want any victims who may be reading this to feel that it is in any way their fault.

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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:51 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:How about not just women. Everone should carry a locked a locked and loaded weapon all the time.

What about children and criminals?

Not criminals and children starting at age nine.

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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:52 pm

Freelanderness wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:But the women would have defended her families honour.

Honour is the most important part, of course.

It is important.

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Postby Ecumenical Patriarchy of Byzantium Novum » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:52 pm

Grape whistle.

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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:52 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:What about children and criminals?

Not criminals and children starting at age nine.

So 10 year olds should carry guns? :blink:
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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:54 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:Not criminals and children starting at age nine.

So 10 year olds should carry guns? :blink:

Lower caliber guns and yes.

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Postby Freelanderness » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:54 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:Honour is the most important part, of course.

It is important.

I didn't deny it. :p
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New Manvir wrote:Well, it's obvious the Native Americans didn't really have a history. They were just loafing about, waiting for some white people to show up so the real fun could start.

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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:59 pm

Freelanderness wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:It is important.

I didn't deny it. :p

your family and countries honour are more important than your life.

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Postby Freelanderness » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:00 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:I didn't deny it. :p

your family and countries honour are more important than your life.

In your opinion, perhaps. But that's not really what the thread's about. If you want to get into a values debate, it'll go nowhere.
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New Manvir wrote:Well, it's obvious the Native Americans didn't really have a history. They were just loafing about, waiting for some white people to show up so the real fun could start.

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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:02 pm

Freelanderness wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:your family and countries honour are more important than your life.

In your opinion, perhaps. But that's not really what the thread's about. If you want to get into a values debate, it'll go nowhere.

Its going somewhere? :rofl: Alright but really Guns could help a lot

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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:03 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:In your opinion, perhaps. But that's not really what the thread's about. If you want to get into a values debate, it'll go nowhere.

Its going somewhere? :rofl: Alright but really Guns could help a lot

Maybe they would help make rape rates go down, but they could also make the assault and murder rates go up.
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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:05 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:Its going somewhere? :rofl: Alright but really Guns could help a lot

Maybe they would help make rape rates go down, but they could also make the assault and murder rates go up.

No because others could also shoot. Robber forgets the guy in the Bathroom. Blam a slug in the back. Back to rape now.

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Postby Freelanderness » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:08 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:In your opinion, perhaps. But that's not really what the thread's about. If you want to get into a values debate, it'll go nowhere.

Its going somewhere? :rofl: Alright but really Guns could help a lot

The purpose of debate is to go somewhere. Debating values hardly ever changes things though, because people are set in their values. Myself, I value peace and nonviolence, and you won't convince me otherwise. I doubt I can convince you otherwise either. Thus, it's pointless.
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New Manvir wrote:Well, it's obvious the Native Americans didn't really have a history. They were just loafing about, waiting for some white people to show up so the real fun could start.

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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:09 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Maybe they would help make rape rates go down, but they could also make the assault and murder rates go up.

No because others could also shoot. Robber forgets the guy in the Bathroom. Blam a slug in the back. Back to rape now.

Yes, if others are shooting others are getting hurt.
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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:59 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:No because others could also shoot. Robber forgets the guy in the Bathroom. Blam a slug in the back. Back to rape now.

Yes, if others are shooting others are getting hurt.

why should we protect criminals?

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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:25 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Yes, if others are shooting others are getting hurt.

why should we protect criminals?

I never said we should. I just don't think everyone shooting each other is the answer.
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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:36 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:why should we protect criminals?

I never said we should. I just don't think everyone shooting each other is the answer.

But it is a answer that would work.

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Postby Disserbia » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:42 pm

I carry a switch blade and pepper spray in my purse. Thankfully I've never had to use it. I think its preventable in certain cituations if there is more than one person though it might be harder.
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Postby Warinemachine » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:51 pm

Also people should carry Bowie knives in case the range becomes too close.

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